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[caLLous]

He's not doing it to see what people are actually doing, they will be building a data model to cross-reference roles.

That and a petty exercise of power of course. "Dance pathetic monkeys, dance!". Easier to make the working environment so hostile that people fire themselves.

And, on top of that, sending the work-related email out late on a Saturday afternoon with a Monday deadline perfectly demonstrates the insincerity of the request. And, on top of that, no mention whatsoever of "failure to reply by the deadline = signal of intent to resign" in the email itself, that was just something Musk randomly threw out in a tweet.

 

[Scouse]

He's not doing it to see what people are actually doing, they will be building a data model to cross-reference roles.

That and a petty exercise of power of course. "Dance pathetic monkeys, dance!". Easier to make the working environment so hostile that people fire themselves.

And, on top of that, sending the work-related email out late on a Saturday afternoon with a Monday deadline perfectly demonstrates the insincerity of the request. And, on top of that, no mention whatsoever of "failure to reply by the deadline = signal of intent to resign" in the email itself, that was just something Musk randomly threw out in a tweet.

Yep. Agree with both of you. It's a shitty way of doing things. But it's quick isn't it. If they get that data model...

However, - they're doing exactly the same in my place at the moment. The whole company is shitting themselves and it's all the staff are talking about because redundancies might be in the tens of thousands. Having been a contractor for 20+ years I'm able to completely ignore it - it's not "real" for me until someone tells me I'm out of a job so I can just crack on.

However - this is just another large-scale redundancy programme because of a change of management.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Jupitus]

Fucking hell! What are the chances - that bus stop is on Bethnal Green road, and the pub you can just make out on the left is the Marquis of Cornwallis, which I fairly often frequent (it's a shit hole, mind - cheap!)

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[Tom]

Only a few weeks ago the Model 3 was top of my list for a replacement car. As soon as he did that salute - fuck that. As long as he's CEO, I'll never buy a Tesla.

 

[BloodOmen]

Oh my god.... Donald Trump retweeted this thinking it was serious... the silly cunt doesn't realise someone has made it to troll him.


View: https://youtu.be/G5HlrkLQWnc

 

[Scouse]

Well, I doubt he is involved @BloodOmen - but he looks at that and goes "why not?" It's the sort of shit he's selling.

Of course, Israel parcelled up the land ages ago because it's some of the best coastal land. Posted videos early on in the genocide of Israelis saying just that.

American policy is Israeli policy.


Edit: It looks like his team made it looking at regular news sources... so there you go.

 

[Scouse]

So, trigger warning @Gwadien - I'm going to use the name of a man you don't like: but does Vance have a point about Europe?:

Football fan banned for shouting homophobic slur 'willing to make amends'

A fan who was convicted of shouting a homophobic slur at a football ground tells BBC Sport why he wants to make amends.

www.bbc.co.uk

I heard Chelsea fans shouting and I shouted back, 'Oi, you Chelsea rent boys', gave them a few gestures and thought nothing of it. I thought I was just having a bit of back and forth with the away fans,

Then he got arrested and prosecuted and now he's got a criminal record - and all that comes with that. For shouting "rent boy".

 

[Raven]

Vance doesn't have a point about anything, he is just the guy that sits in the corner and gets ignored.

 

[Scouse]

Vance doesn't have a point about anything, he is just the guy that sits in the corner and gets ignored.

Looking at the man, totally ignoring the ball.

That's why we Brits lose the game.

 

[Raven]

Looking at the man, totally ignoring the ball.

That's why we Brits lose the game.

No, I mean, he literally just sits there and watches Musk dictate to Trump. Nobody listens to him, or notices him, the only time he piped up, he was rather embarrassingly corrected.

 

[Scouse]

No, I mean, he literally just sits there and watches Musk dictate to Trump. Nobody listens to him, or notices him, the only time he piped up, he was rather embarrassingly corrected.

So. I posted about a man being arrested and getting a criminal record, having his future prospects curtailed because he shouted "chelsea rent boys" after being barracked on the way home from a football match.

Vance directly accused Europe of having a problem with freedom of speech. Trump may not notice him but it rocked Europe - his speech was seismic and changed the face of EU politics. And I think he has a point.

Or do you think we should be criminalising people for slightly off-colour banter that's been in common use for decades?

 

[Raven]

Someone needs to put a bullet in the back of Trump's head. Today. The man is a deranged lunatic. We need to fuck America off, this weekend, chuck them off their bases, tell them all to fuck off home.

We will be at full hybrid war within 6 months (if we aren't already) America will not be on the same side that we are.

 

[Scouse]

You feeling stressed again @Raven?

 

[Raven]

You feeling stressed again @Raven?

No, just a little bit anti-cunt.

Although, I took the wife to the Northampton Museum today, and spent the whole time pissed off that it was all we could show as a town, for our history. We should be a Cambridge, far more important history, we were the capital of the country for nearly 200 years ffs, and all they have is a wanky museum with a load of shoes (most appear to be used crap off ebay) Battle of Naseby, absolutely no mention.

We did spend £££lol on a new market square though, while putting most of the traders out of business...

Edit, in all seriousness, this doesn't end in cuddles, it ends in war, and we need to pick a side.

 

[Tom]

I'm ashamed to speak the same language as Donald Trump. That is shockingly awful even by his standards. To accuse Zelensky of being disrespectful, and then shouting and yelling over him when he tries to answer Vance's questions. It's fucking awful from a fat spray-painted draft-dodging rapist cunt.

I really, really hope the EU come together and give Putin a fucking bloody nose.

 

[Embattle]

I'm ashamed to speak the same language as Donald Trump. That is shockingly awful even by his standards. To accuse Zelensky of being disrespectful, and then shouting and yelling over him when he tries to answer Vance's questions. It's fucking awful from a fat spray-painted draft-dodging rapist cunt.

I really, really hope the EU come together and give Putin a fucking bloody nose.

I found his TS post hilarious about Zelensky disrespecting the Oval Office, it is as if the fat orange cunt who resides in it is the first time it has been disrespected by its own leader.

 

[Scouse]

There seems to be a genuinely wilful self-imposed blind spot here - I'm looking at you @Raven, @Tom, @Embattle.

America (for good or bad, the reason why matters not) has made the accusation that the Europe is retreating from it's Free Speech principles. The very birthplace of the Englightenment - "I detest what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" - is Europe.

And I posted this:

Football fan banned for shouting homophobic slur 'willing to make amends'

A fan who was convicted of shouting a homophobic slur at a football ground tells BBC Sport why he wants to make amends.

www.bbc.co.uk

And all that's happening - after a direct question of "do they have a point" - is a collective howl at the moon whilst you talk about anything but the subject at hand.


So lets face it: America does have a point. Europe is retreating from it's enlightenment principles - with the consent of the majority of it's population.

Orange man is indeed bad. And it makes you feel good to collectively howl about that. I get it.

But no free speech is worse.

 

[caLLous]

There seems to be a genuinely wilful self-imposed blind spot here - I'm looking at you @Raven, @Tom, @Embattle.

America (for good or bad, the reason why matters not) has made the accusation that the Europe is retreating from it's Free Speech principles. The very birthplace of the Englightenment - "I detest what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" - is Europe.

And I posted this:

Football fan banned for shouting homophobic slur 'willing to make amends'

A fan who was convicted of shouting a homophobic slur at a football ground tells BBC Sport why he wants to make amends.

www.bbc.co.uk

And all that's happening - after a direct question of "do they have a point" - is a collective howl at the moon whilst you talk about anything but the subject at hand.


So lets face it: America does have a point. Europe is retreating from it's enlightenment principles - with the consent of the majority of it's population.

Orange man is indeed bad. And it makes you feel good to collectively howl about that. I get it.

But no free speech is worse.

You can't possibly still believe that Trump/Vance/Musk are for free speech.

 

[caLLous]

I'm ashamed to speak the same language as Donald Trump. That is shockingly awful even by his standards. To accuse Zelensky of being disrespectful, and then shouting and yelling over him when he tries to answer Vance's questions. It's fucking awful from a fat spray-painted draft-dodging rapist cunt.

I really, really hope the EU come together and give Putin a fucking bloody nose.

Then he had the fucking nerve to say Zelensky "isn't ready for peace", but only in a social media post after he'd left. We're only 5 weeks into this shit show and Trump has already thrown away decades of carefully nurtured US soft power.

 

[Scouse]

You can't possibly still believe that Trump/Vance/Musk are for free speech.

That's not the fucking question is it. You can tell that - because I've already said I don't think they are multiple times.

IS EUROPE ANY MORE?

 

[Scouse]

It's amazing how people will say such amazingly retarded things rather than answer a simple question that might make them a little uncomfortable.

 

[Raven]

You want "FrEEdOm Of SpEeCh!!!11" I argue that if I encounter a dickhead spouting Nazi bollocks, I should just simply punch them in the throat.

 

[Lamp]

We can only hope a coup in Russia replaces Putin with someone sensible if Ukraine falls and Putin signals an intention to take Poland.

 

[Gwadien]

I agree with you @Scouse but surely you also don't want monkey chants etc? Where do you draw the line? Yes the culture wars are rife, but it's playing a blinding game at making you talk about it at a time where there's far more concerning issues such as the bloke in the White House, I'm still baffled you're taking the bait. Scouse of even 5 years ago would have been calling the Tories out or some shit if something like this was happening.

Watch angry exchange between Trump and Zelensky at White House These are people that should 'never have a point' a bit like the Nazis didn't have a point with the Autobahn.

 

[Embattle]

You can't possibly still believe that Trump/Vance/Musk are for free speech.

No but he is enough of an annoyance to continue to nag us all to death over his version of free speech, which to me was a load of bollocks and still is as far as I'm concerned.

 

[DaGaffer]

I see @Scouse is complaining about the colour of the curtains while the house is burning down. Again.

 

[Raven]

We can only hope a coup in Russia replaces Putin with someone sensible if Ukraine falls and Putin signals an intention to take Poland.

There are few sensible people in Russia. It's always been a basket case, that needs splitting up.

 

[Scouse]

I see @Scouse is complaining about the colour of the curtains while the house is burning down. Again.

Funny that you use that analogy.

The enlightenment principles aren't a "nice to have". They are the very bedrock of our society. They're the solid surface on which our house stands and if you ditch those principles then you undermine your house.

Our house is indeed burning. The rise of the right across Europe and Trumpism in the US is in large part the fault of the left and it's well-meaning but misguided desire for political correctness. Which, of course, is a communist term:

"Comrade, you can't say that because although it may be correct it's not politically correct".

Most societies don't get invaded from outside - they collapse inwards because they abandon their principles.

Free speech is our house's foundation. It's the sprinkler system that puts the fires out. Yes, it makes a mess but we can always repaint and renew as long as the house is structurally sound.

Our society is collapsing because of this - Trump is a symptom, not the cause.


You fuckers are watching the pictures fall off the walls whilst there's an earthquake going on.

Ukraine is a sideshow. Our society is sick. We're retreating from democracy. Raven is sort of right that things are collapsing - but he hasn't diagnosed the cause.

It's not just our political masters at fault - it's all of us.

 

[DaGaffer]

Funny that you use that analogy.

The enlightenment principles aren't a "nice to have". They are the very bedrock of our society. They're the solid surface on which our house stands and if you ditch those principles then you undermine your house.

Our house is indeed burning. The rise of the right across Europe and Trumpism in the US is in large part the fault of the left and it's well-meaning but misguided desire for political correctness. Which, of course, is a communist term:

"Comrade, you can't say that because although it may be correct it's not politically correct".

Most societies don't get invaded from outside - they collapse inwards because they abandon their principles.

Free speech is our house's foundation. It's the sprinkler system that puts the fires out. Yes, it makes a mess but we can always repaint and renew as long as the house is structurally sound.

Our society is collapsing because of this - Trump is a symptom, not the cause.


You fuckers are watching the pictures fall off the walls whilst there's an earthquake going on.

Ukraine is a sideshow. Our society is sick. We're retreating from democracy. Raven is sort of right that things are collapsing - but he hasn't diagnosed the cause.

It's not just our political masters at fault - it's all of us.

FFS you don't half talk some bollocks. The arsonist who's torching the house is the one saying "your curtains are terrible" and that's why you're looking at them and worrying. Free speech is worthless if the ability to get things done with free speech is gone because a couple of cunts have stolen all of the levers of power.

Look at that shitshow in the White House yesterday; that's the burning house and no amount free speech absolutism would have stopped that because they don't care and they can literally lie to everyone's face and get away with it. Stop whining about the wrong things.