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[Raven]

And not even as ecological as wooden houses.

 

[caLLous]

Future homeowners in france apparently looking to make houses out of straw... what could possibly go wrong with that idea on a planet that is warming up, surely nothing would happen to extremely flammable houses.

Straw house has good fire resistance - The Engineer

www.theengineer.co.uk

Humidity is more of a concern than fire in straw houses.

 

[Embattle]

Without the world all working together a single country will achieve fuckall. Zero. Fuckall. That is a fact.

It still has benefits for us at the local level.

 

[BloodOmen]

Straw house has good fire resistance - The Engineer

www.theengineer.co.uk

Humidity is more of a concern than fire in straw houses.

Well forgive me for not being an expert at straw houses i'm not a fucking wolf trying to get pigs out of one lol.

 

[Gwadien]

I think Brexit (yes I said it) gave us an opportunity to really shake stuff up, I think it's a sound plan to turn us into a green economy and lead the world in it - that's how we will eventually profit from it - be being world leaders in it.

Problem is that you vote for your leaders every 5 years not 50 years.

 

[BloodOmen]

Coming to a seaside bookstore near you.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[MYstIC G]

Apple's Privacy Rules to Blame for Facebook's Lower Than Expected Quarterly Growth, Says Zuckerberg

Apple's privacy rules are "negatively affecting" Facebook, and its business, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg claimed during its most recent...

www.macrumors.com

That's made me more likely to buy an iPhone than anything else in the past decade

 

[MYstIC G]

A single country setting an example will inspire others. Everybody sitting around waiting for a collective effort is what will achieve "fuckall".

Did that work on you when you saw the smartest kid in the class being praised by the teacher as a kid or did you just carry on doing your own shit?

 

[BloodOmen]

That's made me more likely to buy an iPhone than anything else in the past decade

Still wouldn't buy an iPhone but thats great. Facebook needs to be reduced to ashes.

 

[Scouse]

Did that work on you when you saw the smartest kid in the class being praised by the teacher as a kid or did you just carry on doing your own shit?

Retards do indeed drag everybody down and hold people back.

That dynamic can slide in the classroom - but we can't allow childish classroom idiocy to guide international politics.

It may be knee-jerk to say "look at them - lol! they're all kids" - but there's definitely a level of rational self-interest. And we need that rational self-interest to prevail if we're going to survive.

 

[Tom]

You have to engage and educate

Doesn't work. Councils have been "encouraging" people not to drive and to walk and cycle for decades. "It's healthy, it's better for you, it's cheaper!" goes the message. And nothing changes. People continue to drive, people continue to avoid walking and cycling, because councils are shit scared of upsetting motorists by reallocating road space. Shit scared of traders by removing a few car parking spaces (which don't encourage trade anyway). Shit scared of homeowners with 3 cars outside a house with a drive suitable for 1 car.

Witness the level of anger from a subset of motorists when LTNs were being installed last year. The amount of vandalism seen, the wanton destruction just so people could cut a couple of minutes off their driving time.

All this time, councils have ignored the considerable number of people who don't want to drive. Who don't want the expense, who just want to walk and cycle around and spend the difference on whatever they like. And the result is more driving, more pollution, more obesity, and a much less pleasant environment.

You have to go at it carrot and stick, it's the only thing that works. That's what they did in the Netherlands, despite massive and noisy objections, and it worked. That's what the Mayor of Paris has been doing the last couple of years, and it's working.

It's the same with environmental issues. Fuck what the noisy complainers say, just do the right thing. Insulated homes means money saved, money that can be spent on things that have value, rather than hot air rising into the sky.

 

[Raven]

I put £15 a month in my car

 

[Aoami]

That's made me more likely to buy an iPhone than anything else in the past decade

Why are people so anti targeted ads? Ads are a part of life if you want a free(ish) internet, so why not have ones tailored to things you might want rather than random stuff?

Not defending Facebook btw, it's awful, but thinking about marketing in general.

 

[Aoami]

I put £15 a month in my car

I don't have a driving license. BEAT THAT.

 

[MYstIC G]

Why are people so anti targeted ads? Ads are a part of life if you want a free(ish) internet, so why not have ones tailored to things you might want rather than random stuff?

Not defending Facebook btw, it's awful, but thinking about marketing in general.

I don't think making people want shit they don't need is of any benefit to anyone, we're all susceptible to it

 

[Scouse]

I don't think making people want shit they don't need is of any benefit to anyone, we're all susceptible to it

As old bill says:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

 

[Ormorof]

That's made me more likely to buy an iPhone than anything else in the past decade

Its a great feature, and its a nice PR spinner, especially as they know Android cant follow suit because of papa Google still being an advertising company at heart. Problematic that one of the most common operating systems is effectively controlled by an advertising company. And they also control the most common browser (see all the "Chrome is going to disable ad blockers" articles recently).

Wonder if anyone will succeed with anti-trust cases against them

 

[Deebs]

What is the point of this @Deebs?

I don't think you are, but just to be clear - are you actually arguing we shouldn't bother doing anything because other countries may not?

That is, clearly, madness. Because every country could argue that. But that's the point of moral leadership, right? The point of us "doing the right thing". The whole thing about Britain being special, being "leaders" and "setting an example for the world".

@DaGaffer is right on China - they'll just fucking mandate it - and the whole country will fall in line. (Although they're not a happy news story yet - but seemingly they could be faster than us). But we are in control of Blighty. And only blighty. Sovreignity, remember? We are in control of our own destiny and not other countries - so pointing at the other countries and going "what about them!" - is utterly pointless.

So I'm not sure why you're doing it.




Again. Nobody has said the UK alone is going to change global warming. I don't know where you're getting that from. But we can, and must, get our own house in order.

But on insulation. Cheapest? Yes - insulating the 7.5m houses that have thin single skinned walls is one of the cheapest methods of reducing carbon. And we can do it for fucking free:

1) We already pay (through our taxes) subsidies for fossil fuels.
2) Stop them.
3) Use the money on insulating our properties instead.

Simple.

I don't know why you're struggling with this concept. This is the easiest of the things we need to change. So what the hell are you going to be like when it comes to the hard choices?

You're a granddad. Do you not give a shit about the world you'll be handing over to them? I.E. One in which they' could easily end up living in a walled facist state because a billion migrants are trying to escape death by starvation and desertification by coming to Europe?

We've left this so late, because we've been arguing like petty children, that now only BIG changes are going to make a difference. And yes - we have to TRUST that the rest of the world will step up to the plate. But if we don't do our bit then it's pointless anyway.

I am not struggling with anything, my house is insulated. The majority of the UK will not do a thing based on the fucktards stopping them from doing their daily routine, that is my point. I know global warming is a thing.

 

[Aoami]

Its a great feature, and its a nice PR spinner, especially as they know Android cant follow suit because of papa Google still being an advertising company at heart. Problematic that one of the most common operating systems is effectively controlled by an advertising company. And they also control the most common browser (see all the "Chrome is going to disable ad blockers" articles recently).

Wonder if anyone will succeed with anti-trust cases against them

You'll pay to use the internet in one way or another. Whether it's with your data or with your wallet.

 

[Ormorof]

You'll pay to use the internet in one way or another. Whether it's with your data or with your wallet.

Oh absolutely, but many services have now proved people are willing to pay for high quality content without ads. Hell Spotifys entire business model is "pay to avoid ads".

Ads are a 20th century solution for 21st century tech (much like credit cards and online payments but lets not go there)

 

[Scouse]

I am not struggling with anything, my house is insulated. The majority of the UK will not do a thing based on the fucktards stopping them from doing their daily routine, that is my point. I know global warming is a thing.

I'm not talking voluntary action. Legislation and government rollout.

 

[Scouse]

World is failing to make changes needed to avoid climate breakdown, report finds

Pace of emissions reductions must be increased significantly to keep global heating to 1.5C

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

Farmers don’t have to contribute to the environmental crisis – we can solve it | Jyoti Fernandes

As a farmer I produce meat and cheese from animals that graze in my orchard on diverse, carbon-sequestering grasslands, says Dorset farmer Jyoti Fernandes

www.theguardian.com

 

[DaGaffer]

Farmers don’t have to contribute to the environmental crisis – we can solve it | Jyoti Fernandes

As a farmer I produce meat and cheese from animals that graze in my orchard on diverse, carbon-sequestering grasslands, says Dorset farmer Jyoti Fernandes

www.theguardian.com

Some mouthpiece for Irish farmers was on telly yesterday trying to weasel out of their climate responsibilities, despite the emissions of Irish farmers having gone UP over the last decade. If the rest of the country hits its targets over the next decade, dairy and beef farming alone will be more than half of our emissions. As a group, farmers are a major environmental problem.

 

[Scouse]

Some mouthpiece for Irish farmers was on telly yesterday trying to weasel out of their climate responsibilities, despite the emissions of Irish farmers having gone UP over the last decade. If the rest of the country hits its targets over the next decade, dairy and beef farming alone will be more than half of our emissions. As a group, farmers are a major environmental problem.

Totally agree. Tgere's a welsh hill farming tv personality over here who constamtly puts out a stream of "fuck you, lambs liver for breakfast" in defence if his lifestyle.

However the major problem with agriculture is our industrial intensive methodology. We need wholesale reform - including the breaking up of large farms and methodology changes.

 

[Scouse]

We all behind this protest, yep?

Olympians among protesters blocking Fawley oil refinery

Sailor Laura Baldwin and gold medal canoeist Etienne Stott protested in a pink boat.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bodhi]

I don't have a driving license. BEAT THAT.

I just drove to the shop about half a mile down the road, probably getting a stonking 15 mpg when I did it.

 

[Wij]

I drove to the bog for a piss and made 3 species of frog extinct on the way!

 

[Scouse]

I drove to the bog for a piss and made 3 species of frog extinct on the way!

You piss in your bog?!!

I like to shit in the sink, myself.