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Must be nice living in a rural area.

More you post more your castle gets taller
What's where I live got to do with it? I've lived 90+% of my life in cities - and I still drive in them.

What does the data say? Oh yes (depending on the measure) about 1/3rd reductions in deaths and serious injuries in places where it's been made 20mph. I thought you liked kids? That means more kids alive and unhurt.

Or do you only like 'em as long as it means you can drive a trivial amount faster?

Edit: But I do wish I owned a castle :(
 

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20mph limit massive success.


Roll it out in England tbpfh.

The welsh government should be having press conferences on this saying "all those of you who want us to roll this back - we're not going to listen to you, you are wrong".

Shame the article you posted itself says it's too early to attribute any fall in casualties to the 20mph limit.

But anyway why stop at 20? We could save even more kiddies lives by dropping it to 10 mph.

Add a bloke walking in front of the car with a big red flag, and casualties would drop that much that people would start coming back to life!

However I'm happy to bring them in round here. Going by the existing 20mph limits we have, everyone will ignore them anyway.

Just to add to a previous debate, I still don't think Musk actually did the salute he's being accused of - but then I've only seen the live video, not the edited stuff people have been basing their opinions on.
 

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But anyway why stop at 20?
Diminishing returns m8. You drop from 30 > 20 and people are much less likely to be killed or severely injured.

You drop from 20, what are you gaining?

Living in a place with 20 limits all over the place - apart from the first few months, you don't notice it at all. And as far as I can tell there's really good compliance.
 

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Diminishing returns m8. You drop from 30 > 20 and people are much less likely to be killed or severely injured.

You drop from 20, what are you gaining?

Living in a place with 20 limits all over the place - apart from the first few months, you don't notice it at all. And as far as I can tell there's really good compliance.

Still not sure what you're gaining dropping to 20mph given the article you posted suggests you can't attribute any drop in fatalities to the 20mph limit.
 

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Diminishing returns m8. You drop from 30 > 20 and people are much less likely to be killed or severely injured.

You drop from 20, what are you gaining?

Living in a place with 20 limits all over the place - apart from the first few months, you don't notice it at all. And as far as I can tell there's really good compliance.

What's the population of the area you live in?
 

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What's the population of the area you live in?
What's that got to do with anything? The data includes Cardiff? And we're really talking about the data, not my personal observations aren't we?

For the record, however, I've driven through villages, towns and cities since it's been introduced. It was painful *everywhere* at first. But now?

Only in the really chavvy areas is it a problem (Merthyr, I'm looking at you) - but then that place was a death trap to ride my bike through ten years ago. I rode from Cardiff to Holyhead and the only place I had a problem was a twat in a BMW who stopped to abuse and threaten me for riding on a cycle path in Merthyr. That place is a fucking HOLE*.

*Edit: They of course, speak welsh at the lowest level in the country, they voted brexit hard (despite being a massive receiver of european money) and are railing physically against the 20mph limits (criminal damage). Basically the valleys are the worst of us.
 
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You're lucky to hit 20 in town...

It's 20 through most villages here, fine with that.
 

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You're lucky to hit 20 in town...

It's 20 through most villages here, fine with that.

20MPH? Maniacs! Large parts of central Dublin are now 30KMH (18.75MPH).

Of course the reason for most road injuries in Dublin were stoned skangers standing in the middle of the road having arguments with imaginary creatures, so I'm not actually sure whether it would be better just to give up moving at all, which is, I suspect, what Dublin City Council would actually prefer.
 

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This is going to be in the news for a bit perhaps.

I postend on the guy who got killed the other day I think.

Spineless reaction from scandi and danish governments is to criminalise the burning of the quran rather than double down on protecting their resident's freedoms.

This guy has the right idea but wrapping himself in the star if david hides the correct message and probably ends up counterproductive - it looks like religious sectarianism.

But hey. Freedom of speech. Crack on.
 

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Don't see what the problem is. It's better than what we had before, so why are people pissed off about it?

When google cornered search it was because they had better tech. This is just the same again - better tech.
 

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@Scouse - I use CoPilot day to day, it's much faster than Google for my use case. So I'm all personally for it, but it is everywhere where it's not needed.

My AI washing machine is a great example. It's not AI, it's based on weight of clothes. Not AI. It's a misnomer.
 

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@Scouse - I use CoPilot day to day, it's much faster than Google for my use case. So I'm all personally for it, but it is everywhere where it's not needed.

My AI washing machine is a great example. It's not AI, it's based on weight of clothes. Not AI. It's a misnomer.

I've pretty much given up on regular search now and use Copilot for most enquiries, but, it does get things wrong, and quite often.
 

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Well, you are testing it for them, after all.

There is no such thing as shipping complete, tested software any more.
 

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I just use duckduckgo and I started when Google started to include AI responses. I don't want an AI helping my search especially as they're so often completely wrong. In fact half the time I just search for "how to do this" + reddit because that gets me old-fashioned replies.
 

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I postend on the guy who got killed the other day I think.

Spineless reaction from scandi and danish governments is to criminalise the burning of the quran rather than double down on protecting their resident's freedoms.

This guy has the right idea but wrapping himself in the star if david hides the correct message and probably ends up counterproductive - it looks like religious sectarianism.

But hey. Freedom of speech. Crack on.


This bit:

"The prosecution in Najem’s case said that the aim of the Qur’an burnings had been to express contempt for Muslims because of their religion, and therefore could be considered incitement against an ethnic group."

Religion is not an ethnic group. How did the defence not tear this fucking nonsense to shreds?
 

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I think the next FarCry game should be all about shooting modern day Nazis. Their leader can be some sort of tech bro wanker.
 

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Religion is not an ethnic group. How did the defence not tear this fucking nonsense to shreds?
It feels like the world we're building in the west. Not one based in any sort of intellectual reality.

Do we have to turn into maga asshats to be able to call Islam out for the violent bullshit it is?
 

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The dangers of unregulated cosmetic surgery should be taken far more seriously, says Ashton Collins

The general vibe that you pick up is that these are silly women that have made silly choices, driven through vanity, and it's their own fault

I mean. That general vibe is correct isn't it.

The shocking thing is how widespread some level of cosmetic procedure is tbh. But still they're fucking awful choices, driven through vanity and lack of self-esteem and it is indeed their own fault - and we end up picking the tab up.

Personally, I'd ban the industry, but that would drive wankers underground (and we'd still pick up the tab). So we should regulate heavily, with heavy prison terms for practitioners who don't abide by licence terms - and for people who don't check for those licence terms. And part of those licence terms should be the cost of private medical insurance to deal with any unforseen consequences so the public doesn't have to pick up the tab - which is effectively a subsidy for idiots who decided to go under the knife / needle, entirely of their own volition.


Before someone butthurt points out that there are legitimate uses for cosmetic surgery (e.g. cleft pallette etc). That isn't included in this. All this is optional shit...
 

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Build the data centres in a sensible place, use the now heated water to drive turbines, recycle the heat into power. Or am I being too GCSE level understanding over it?

Immigrants bad.

Wait. Sorry. Wrong default response.

Science isn't real.
 

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Wife told me the cottage pie I just made was as good as her Grandad's. Only taken 22 years.
 

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I work near a big Ford place, they appear to be trying to shift this. It is so dull that light bends towards it.

50 grand, haha

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