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[Scouse]

 

[Gwadien]

They probably thought that was the easiest thing to do at the time, arrest them, move them away and then de-arrest them. Being shown to do something and de-escalate the situation. Nobody was hurt, nobody was mobbed. Everyone moved on.

Edit, as usual, the media are turning it into an us vs them thing, regardless of the original "thing" more labelling, division and screaming on twitter, sells papers.

I mean did you read the article?

People are going to court over it...

 

[Scouse]

People are going to court over it...

People are getting questioned by police for holding up blank pieces of paper.

We're not all that different from Russia when it boils down to it.

 

[Gwadien]

I dunno how you can bullshit it @Embattle if what @Scouse is saying is true, that's *literally* what people were being arrested for in Russia, lol.

 

[Scouse]

I dunno how you can bullshit it @Embattle if what @Scouse is saying is true, that's *literally* what people were being arrested for in Russia, lol.

Don't use reason to argue with @Embattle m8. His feelings define his reality.

 

[Gwadien]

What I don't understand is that the Police do crowd control like every weekend - at football matches.



This looks like very light police presence to me.

 

[Scouse]

The guy the po-po dragged to the ground and ushered off in Edinburgh for shouting that Andrew was a disgrace...

...he IS a disgrace. Our money is ussd to support him. And we can't vote him out.

 

[Scouse]

What I don't understand is that the Police do crowd control like every weekend - at football matches

And every weekend they arrest all the fans that are chanting against the other side.

Oh. Wait. Just the monarchy eh?

 

[Embattle]

Don't use reason to argue with @Embattle m8. His feelings define his reality.

As your hypocritical nature utterly defines yours and the majority of what you post.

And every weekend they arrest all the fans that are chanting against the other side.

Oh. Wait. Just the monarchy eh?

Well lets have a realistic comparison rather than one that suits your narrative, yes they probably would if that person happened to be in the opposing fans area chanting.

 

[Scouse]

Well lets have a realistic comparison rather than one that suits your narrative, yes they probably would if that person happened to be in the opposing fans area chanting.

Would they if he was holding up a blank puece of paper?

 

[Bodhi]

I guess it's fine when those nutters hang out at funerals for gays and soldiers with placards going on about burning in hell is fine too then.

There is a time and a place, just because some "Look at me, my opinion matters, yours doesn't" idiot wants their time in the sun, doesn't mean they should get it. It's either taking them away or watching the whole thing turn into a shit show where the public decide to act and the idiot gets mobbed. Simples.

Someone has died, that is/was important to millions and millions of people, why not hold an opinion and still allow others to show their grief in peace?

I know it's very important what opinion people have these days, everyone has to fit into a tidy little box with a label, it's easier than thinking.

This. As previously said I'm not a huge royalist, and if people think we should abolish the monarchy that's a discussion I'm more than happy to have, but there is a time and a place.

Waving a placard in front of a grieving family saying you think they are scum isn't really a free speech issue to me - it's a "don't be an insensitive cunt" issue. Whilst it's not an arrestable offence imo, it is a "remove the cunt and let people grieve" offence.

 

[Ormorof]

This. As previously said I'm not a huge royalist, and if people think we should abolish the monarchy that's a discussion I'm more than happy to have, but there is a time and a place.

Waving a placard in front of a grieving family saying you think they are scum isn't really a free speech issue to me - it's a "don't be an insensitive cunt" issue. Whilst it's not an arrestable offence imo, it is a "remove the cunt and let people grieve" offence.

They were in front of parliament, where would be more appropriate to protest something political?

And it was a blank piece of paper not yelling abuse

 

[Bodhi]

They were in front of parliament, where would be more appropriate to protest something political?

And it was a blank piece of paper not yelling abuse

I was thinking of the tosser in Edinburgh yesterday. Protests away from any of the official engagements are a bit different - and yes slightly concerning from a freedom of speech angle - but protesting at the funeral corteges themselves is a bit of a dick move imo.

 

[Embattle]

I love how some of you are focusing on blank paper man, even though he wasn't actually arrested.

 

[Ormorof]

Thats simply the most absurd case where police got involved when they should have just ignored it, the guy in Oxford, also far from the funeral, was arrested then released

The knowledge that you might end up bundled into the back of a van for expressing dissent is dystopian, something we clutch pearls in horror about when it happens in Moscow or Minsk but this is fine if it happens in Oxford?

 

[Bodhi]

Strange to see some people up in arms over this whilst cheering on people being arrested for protesting the "wrong" things - lockdowns, vaccine passports etc.

 

[Ormorof]

Strange to see some people up in arms over this whilst cheering on people being arrested for protesting the "wrong" things - lockdowns, vaccine passports etc.

Who was arrested for protesting these things? Genuinely curious, the UK went a bit nuts in the enforcement of lockdowns (especially in hindsight when not even the people that came up with the rules were following them)

But was someone arrested for standing in parliament square and protesting these things? Or for yelling out something that didnt agree with what government was pushing?

 

[Bodhi]

Who was arrested for protesting these things? Genuinely curious, the UK went a bit nuts in the enforcement of lockdowns (especially in hindsight when not even the people that came up with the rules were following them)

But was someone arrested for standing in parliament square and protesting these things? Or for yelling out something that didnt agree with what government was pushing?

Quite a few as it turns out.....

36 arrested as thousands take part in anti-lockdown protests

March in capital comes as MPs urge government to lift restrictions on protests during lockdown

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Gwadien]

Strange to see some people up in arms over this whilst cheering on people being arrested for protesting the "wrong" things - lockdowns, vaccine passports etc.

Probably got more to do with there being laws about people gathering due to the transmitting of Covid.

But you don't think Covid was a thing, so there's little point discussing it

 

[Ormorof]

Then that is also wrong and just shows how long this has been going on, even before this latest shit show of anti protest legislation took effect

 

[Bodhi]

Probably got more to do with there being laws about people gathering due to the transmitting of Covid.

But you don't think Covid was a thing, so there's little point discussing it

You're right I don't think COVID was a thing - that's why I've had it twice and been vaccinated against it 3 times.

 

[Scouse]

Quite a few as it turns out.....

36 arrested as thousands take part in anti-lockdown protests

March in capital comes as MPs urge government to lift restrictions on protests during lockdown

www.independent.co.uk

That was wankers fighting with the police during a large demonstration - not demonstrating peacefully.

As is clear. Or they'd all have been arrested.

Wanky little flips and twists there.

 

[Scouse]

 

[Scouse]

But more seriously:

Campaign group writes to police over anti-monarchy protest arrests

Republic raises concerns about issue and warns that it expects future protests to be allowed to go ahead peacefully

www.theguardian.com

Shame Andrew wasn't charged for the rather more serious offenses he was accused of.

But 'dem royals eh? Going to court is optional.

 

[Bodhi]

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#leftcantmeme

Is there a tl:dr for those who can't be arsed with a wall of text?

 

[Embattle]

False equivalences won't help make your points any more valid.

 

[Bodhi]

Plus, whilst I have no time for the (non) sweaty guy - he wasn't there on Royal duties, he was grieving for his mother. When someone hasn't been charged with anything - and all we know he was guilty of is associating with someone we know to be scum, and who was assoociated with a few other well known people - we should at least afford them that courtesy.

When Charles takes over properly he will fade into the background and we won't hear of him again, I'm fairly certain of that.

Again, time and a place.

 

[Gwadien]

Plus, whilst I have no time for the (non) sweaty guy - he wasn't there on Royal duties, he was grieving for his mother. When someone hasn't been charged with anything - and all we know he was guilty of is associating with someone we know to be scum, and who was assoociated with a few other well known people - we should at least afford them that courtesy.

When Charles takes over properly he will fade into the background and we won't hear of him again, I'm fairly certain of that.

Again, time and a place.

I dunno, I feel like Andrew is playing on the sympathy in order to get into the public light.

There was a clip of him and his siblings (without Charles) walking down the street greeting the public, and he was very much leading it, which seemed a bit weird & wrong.

 

[Embattle]

People are biting there lip with Andrew, he won't gain anything.

 

[Ormorof]

#leftcantmeme

Is there a tl:dr for those who can't be arsed with a wall of text?

Its a long running strip in football section of guardian not a meme...