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My mate has started using tabex, something from Bulgaria similar to Champix. 2 days of using it and he hasn't slept yet so god knows what's in it!

My dreams were just really vivid and weird as fuck, I had no trouble with sleep patterns or mood but heard some horror stories.
 

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I gave up smoking for 3 years, the hardest part was actually not shoving something in my mouth.
I started smoking again when I got a social life, tried to give up again but found it very very difficult so tried champix but stopped that when I walked past some broken glass and briefly thought about sticking in my wrist.
These days I'm a 20 a day kind of guy and I suspect it'll stay that way.
 

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Sadly you and many others will regret it in the end, besides all the other issues it can cause the most common form of cancer it causes is a slight killer.

The thing I find truly tragic about smoking is with all the knowledge about it is you still get people starting to smoke nowadays.
 

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The number of new smokers is dropping through the floor. I started at 15, my mum never smoked, my grandparents didn't smoke. None of my friends smoked, we just decided to try it (probably that insipid marketing in play) and I smoked up until ~5 years ago, 20-25 years or so a smoker. I still smoke every now and again, if I buy some weed then I get a small pouch of tobacco and have the odd tab before work, but that's rare these days. I will also have the odd one when camping with mates, if I have had a few beers.

That shit takes over your life, the cost, checking you have your baccy, rizlas, filters, lighter etc when you go out, making sure you have enough to last until you go to another shop. Baccy in your pockets with all the fluff. And that's before we get on to the obvious health risks.

We have done a lot to make smoking less attractive, it's not something we can just fix over night, if you banned it there would be riots. The screw has been turning on the cost over the years, putting it out of reach, even well off it's an extra £30 a week out goings. The ball ache of leaving the table when out for dinner to pop out in the cold for 5 minutes. Kids aren't interested, better education is seeing to that.

"lol, just give up" is fucking nonsense.
 

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That was supposed to be silent not slight :rolleyes:
The most fucked up thing is that I've known cancer victims who recovered after chemo who started smoking again, only to be killed by it.

It's a fucking horrible drug that kills 50% of people who smoke - but a lot of smokers defend it. Some don't even want to fight it - they become utterly subservient to it - defending (and celebrating even) the artificial culture that the tobacco industry built up around it. (You can get a 80's rothmans coloured bicycle ffs).

It's so sad. And it doesn't even get you high.
 

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I gave up smoking for 3 years, the hardest part was actually not shoving something in my mouth.
I started smoking again when I got a social life, tried to give up again but found it very very difficult so tried champix but stopped that when I walked past some broken glass and briefly thought about sticking in my wrist.
These days I'm a 20 a day kind of guy and I suspect it'll stay that way.

I never tried Champix but did get prescribed Zyban about 15 years ago, and found similar effects so quickly stopped and went back to smoking. Stayed on 20 a day until I found Iqos so now use both, probably 5 - 10 cigs a day and a similar amount of Heets. Feel loads healthier than when I was just smoking.
 

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Prediction: The National Trust continues to licence hunts regardless of the outcome of the vote.

Hopefully some celebrity (like Chris Packham) starts highlighting to the 5 million strong membership that they need to cancel their membership to force the NT to back down and ban fox hunting.

(The beeb is underselling the bloke's conviction btw - he's head of the trail hunting association and the webinar he arranged had the heads of local trail associations being given practical advice by ex-policemen on how to place evidence that makes hunt saboteurs look bad, how to con any police that turn up and how to confuse the evidential landscape to make any possible prosecution hihgly unlikely to be achieved.

I posted the recording of the video here a couple of years back. It was a proper smoking gun. Really really bad - basically toffs showing that the law is only for plebs).
 

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My sister had a membership with NT for a short while, until she realised they allowed trail hunts on NT land.
 

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I wonder how much old money pressure there is on the NT to allow such things though. I'd imagine there's quite a bit, and I suspect there's many more questionable old money practices still going on.

I like NT and HE but I do wonder who's actually in charge some times.
 

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There really needs to be a UK wide acceptable way of saying "Fuck off, we don't have sweets for you" on Halloween.
 

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There really needs to be a UK wide acceptable way of saying "Fuck off, we don't have sweets for you" on Halloween.
I took the extreme way out and moved to a place where children would have to literally climb a mountain whilst braveing a storm through a pitch black forest to get to the track leading down to my scary house.

When I lived in the city I just went to the pub until the little fuckers had gone to bed :)
 

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I laughed a little but christ thats scary. Should not be easy to do that o_O

And the buyers attitude is understandable but if its sold fraudulently then surely transaction is null and void. Should be no different than dealing in stolen goods imo
Buyer is blameless. He should be getting his money back, the seller should be getting his house put back the way it was.

The police should be getting absolutely hammered for this sort of shit.

A cyclist was shot at - actually shot at. He had a video of the white van being driven and the passenger leaning out of the window with a pistol. It may have been a handheld air pistol, but who knows. Number plate clearly visible.

Police refused to investigate. "No other witnesses".
 

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It is rare but does happen since the Land Registry has paid compensation in previous years as stated in the article.
 

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It is rare but does happen since the Land Registry has paid compensation in previous years as stated in the article.
As it should be. But the first thing they'll do is finger the "seller" (owner) and go "prove you've not sold it". It could take years. Which is shit for all involved.

But that's by the bye tbh. The thing that's very wrong here is the police's refusal to investigate a clear case of fraud.

If they're not investigating even this level of crime then all sorts of crime is going completely uninvestigated. (Like any theft from an average person's home, ever - or cyclists having axes thrown at them (true)).
 

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