zerkers are gimped

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Arnor

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Originally posted by Aule Valar
compared to you he is, i mocced on him yesterday while he was triple weilding on me, i stayed alive with v little healing for long enough for the moc to run out, a zerker would probably have dropped me within 4-6 seconds

no no, compared to soruzi he is, not me

keep me out of that. When stormrider can do 300-350 on Jawz, he is no gimp.
 
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Jiggs

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dunno what you are smoking but stormrider is a gimp
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Arnor2
no no, compared to soruzi he is, not me

keep me out of that. When stormrider can do 300-350 on Jawz, he is no gimp.


well, you need to take into account, stormriderx is rr7, has a ton of RAs, and is pierce specced for bonus on chain. Any other BM hits soft as hell

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/ace.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/ace2.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/ace3.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/ace4.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/ace5.jpg

thats without using any instas/RAs at all, only healed with normal heals etc. (edit: those are self buffs only from pac healer)


zerkers hit hard from the very start, far harder than any other class, even your 'high qui' zerk hits harder than low qui frontloding BMs.



but honestly, i dont se where all the fuss is coming from about the LA nerf, loggs from pend show zerkers are still hitting 150-300 against most classes, which is still double what other light tanks are hitting
 
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Carlos Bananos

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he's in epic :p


lol more at his dmg though ;o
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
he's in epic :p


lol more at his dmg though ;o

remember you don't need to be level 50 to wear epic ;)
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
He is ;)

well if he was when the pics were taken, I can only :(

(and yes, it was ooe fighting, but still completely gimp damage)
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Pin
well if he was when the pics were taken, I can only :(

(and yes, it was ooe fighting, but still completely gimp damage)


start of fight he layed down some uber (50-70) styles + tripple wield :eek:

i just waited till he was ooe an healed myself ;x




fighting zerkers even when i use all my instas i usually die ;/
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
start of fight he layed down some uber (50-70) styles + tripple wield :eek:

i just waited till he was ooe an healed myself ;x




fighting zerkers even when i use all my instas i usually die ;/


Well, whoever knows this guy should really tell him to get his weapons sorted out... 2 equal-speed (and fast) weapons are not going to do his damage output any favours.
 
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sorusi

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Originally posted by Aussie-
mids on mlf? where

like 3fgs of them each day, they allways zerg with savages/zerkers even if hibbs/albs move in 1fg each
 
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StormriderX

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Originally posted by Arnor2
no no, compared to soruzi he is, not me

keep me out of that. When stormrider can do 300-350 on Jawz, he is no gimp.

I swing slower than you :)

91 qui = my defence severly nerfed evade wise :)

you got like 400 on a bard with 39% resists whereas I got 300-350 on someone with 16% max (not inc racial resists)...

Btw here's a list of my damage caps (tested on grey mobs) using my 4.3spd fang 91 qui rr7 50/50/27/10 pierce/cd/parry/shield spec. All damage listed is main hand only no crits ofc:

Broodmother Fang 4.3spd Main hand
Unstyled: 227

Anytime:
Bumblebee's Sting: 386

Back Chain:
Wasp's Sting: 390
Hornet's Sting: 465

Side Chain
Copperhead: 411
Viper's Bite: 478
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by StormriderX
I swing slower than you :)

91 qui = my defence severly nerfed evade wise :)

you got like 400 on a bard with 39% resists whereas I got 300-350 on someone with 16% max (not inc racial resists)...

Btw here's a list of my damage caps (tested on grey mobs) using my 4.3spd fang 91 qui rr7 50/50/27/10 pierce/cd/parry/shield spec. All damage listed is main hand only no crits ofc:

Broodmother Fang 4.3spd Main hand
Unstyled: 227

Anytime:
Bumblebee's Sting: 386

Back Chain:
Wasp's Sting: 390
Hornet's Sting: 465

Side Chain
Copperhead: 411
Viper's Bite: 478


and what are you forgetting?

Im a troll, I have 102 quickness unbuffed, thats fricking cap for me, so you dont have LOW quickness.

Unstyled: 182

Dfrost: 466

Snowsquall: 536 (backbased)

Icy Brilliance: 591 (2nd backbased)

Comeback: 587 (evade)

Frosty Gaze: xxx (2nd evade)

Polar Light: 585 (parry)

Frost Shadow: xxx (2nd parry)



IMO, make bm's hit like this, thats all the love they need. prolly same for mercs too.
And ofc nerf the quick-shit so all zerks hit like this or at 6spd delay.
 
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StormriderX

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Originally posted by Arnor2
and what are you forgetting?

Im a troll, I have 102 quickness unbuffed, thats fricking cap for me, so you dont have LOW quickness.

I'm a celt with 70 base qui so it is low :p (read a bad guide and put 10pts into qui instead of str -_-)

I got aug qui 2 for dodger and some leftovers on my sc template that I cant quite get rid of :p
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Arnor2
and what are you forgetting?

Im a troll, I have 102 quickness unbuffed, thats fricking cap for me, so you dont have LOW quickness.

Unstyled: 182

Dfrost: 466

Snowsquall: 536 (backbased)

Icy Brilliance: 591 (2nd backbased)

Comeback: 587 (evade)

Frosty Gaze: xxx (2nd evade)

Polar Light: 585 (parry)

Frost Shadow: xxx (2nd parry)



IMO, make bm's hit like this, thats all the love they need. prolly same for mercs too.
And ofc nerf the quick-shit so all zerks hit like this or at 6spd delay.

my shadowblades DF cap is 48x
and comeback near 600 (not sure of exacts)
qui raises as my 2ndry stat, i got about 150


i also only have 39+15 LA


how are yours so low? ;l
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
my shadowblades DF cap is 48x
and comeback near 600 (not sure of exacts)
qui raises as my 2ndry stat, i got about 150


i also only have 39+15 LA


how are yours so low? ;l


test it please.


cleaver+wba here, MP


66a/la
 
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Carlos Bananos

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wont be 2morrow till i log in SB, but i'll test t np, i'll let u know on irc
 
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Wot-do

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stop playing with quickness, and u will do alot more dmg.
 
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Arnor

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Re: .

Originally posted by Wot-do
stop playing with quickness, and u will do alot more dmg.


well duuh :p


But im not complaining that I do too little dmg, im perfectly happy with my setup, I have no intention of being a 35quick bandwagon powermunchkinzerker, never have been, never will be.
 

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