Your Shaman spec ideas welcome! :P

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old.Biffsmash

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Hi,
Just started Prydwen Midgard, and have a level 26 shaman now.

The character seems to me to be such a usefull char no matter how its specced. Thats my problem!

I would welcome any ideas as to how to spec. Whether it's to be usefull in RVR or usefull in PVE. Any playstyle.

Send me your ideas ! thanks :)
 
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Larssi

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What Cush said and 32aug/14mend/41cave is one nice option too (gives a bit more effective baseline heals and 41cave is best bolt/DD just weaker buffs, then again lots of buffbots around). Or for the really effective cave shaman 46-47 cave, 22+ aug, rest mend... Lotsa good options.

Most importantly I'd suggest that you'd just make your way to 40 and then make up your mind and use the lvl 40 /repect to do it. To do this you should spec on the way so that you have as many spec possibilities open to you (don't go over 22aug / 7-9 mend).

(These suggestions are made with presumption that you're not going to make yourself aug/mend specced aka buffbot specced, which most find way too boring to play (ofcourse some dont ;) ))
 
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mavericky

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Lots of good aug/cave options on a shaman, the only thing not to do is spec high mend. With 14mend +11 from items and +4 RR you will heal almost as well as someone with 26 mend with all the +'s the only difference is that you miss out on the better res and frigs (which are useles in combat anyway)
 
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mavericky

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Forgot to say, if you are going to be solo xping then make sure you have decent cave, you are pretty poor without it
 
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old.Biffsmash

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ATM i am level 26 my spec is as follows

18 Aug
16 mend
10 cave

I solo yellows fine and i've killed one or two orange but my armour is crap and so is my hammer (ie blue con and drops).

I find this character is really good fun and although my cave is low and my equipment is junk I can still solo ok :)

Thing i've noticed is that everyone is recommending Cave, but is this what groups want from a shaman?

I mean in xp groups the Frig is very efficient, not at all useless in combat from what i've experienced. It's low on mana usage and keeps the tanks almost full hp while they tank red monsters.

I am more than happy to go with cave because I like the idea of being able to kill peeps :p But I also like the heal over time (Although it seems this isn't enough to justify high mend).

Like u say thought I do have till level 40 to decide so i'm gonna have to think hard :)

Thanks for the help :)
 
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old.Trine Aquavit

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I'd agree with 38 Aug / 37 Cave / 9 Mend. Lots of specs work, but this is a very good spec for a playable Shammy.

Shaman has one strong line (Aug), one fun line (Cave) and one gimpy line (Mend).
 
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old.Theorin

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Lots of different specs that are all good in their own way :)

38 aug
37 cave
9 mend

This has been my spec for the last few months and it is great, both for soloing and in groups. 38 aug means you get all 3 16% Yellow resists which RvR groups will love, as well as all yellow spec buffs and end 4 (perma sprint with long wind 1). 37 cave gets you the second best of everything, except ae root. Yellow bolt, dd and single target poison will usually be enough to take out a solo caster very quickly :) . Against tanks, your yellow pbae disease will allow you to kite them easily (providing they don't have Prevent Flight :p ). Very nice spec if you want to solo in PvE as well, you can easily bolt, dd (to be safe), poison then tank yellows and low oranges, or kite oranges and reds. Oh and lastly, my favourite spell - ae dot ! Yes it's only the second best ae dot but combined with a few levels of Wild Arcana, it is still extremely effective. Great fun to spam it in keep warefare :) 9 Mend means you will heal for 200-350 with your base healing spell and have the cure poison and cure disease spells.

Have fun levelling to 50 and RvR'ing :)
 
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mavericky

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Originally posted by old.Biffsmash


I mean in xp groups the Frig is very efficient, not at all useless in combat from what i've experienced. It's low on mana usage and keeps the tanks almost full hp while they tank red monsters.
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The frigs dont scale up very well so that at these higher levels they make very little difference, also in combat they only tick once every 14 seconds which means they heal for less than one baseline group heal, mend just isnt that good to take high.

You can still heal with low mend just make sure you get lots on +mend on your armour and use the baseline heals, then plough those points into your other lines that improve when you spec them
 
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nuky

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Originally posted by Cush
38 aug 37 cave 9 mend
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respeced to this and loving it - get lw1, solo is mucho fun (when u ever find someone solo nowadays)
 
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Makwaerk

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37 aug (only miss the matter resist buff.. wich does not matter)

39 cave (get teh handy Ae root at 39)

dump leftover into mend

clearly not a PvE spec tho
 
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Cami

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you can go 38a 39c 4m for the 2nd rvr spec

as i 'said', im 38a 37c 9m, i still get a decent ae root (31 instead of 39) and all the other spells are the same (in aug/cave anyway) + i get cure dissease/poison.

I agree, in fg vs fg combat the matter reists aint 'that' important, but its still handy if you are defending/attacking keeps against cabas etc ;)

Besides, dot procs, which 90%(?) of the players out there use are matter.
 
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old.Trine Aquavit

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The frigs dont scale up very well so that at these higher levels they make very little difference, also in combat they only tick once every 14 seconds which means they heal for less than one baseline group heal, mend just isnt that good to take high.
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Funnily enough, Friggs's effectiveness has been hit by the end buff - it used to be worth sticking on tanks as they regened endurance but with end tanks don't sit around as much.

Shaman Mend really does need some love.
 
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Cush

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ive been specced 35 mend with my shaman and all i can say i almost heal as good with 9 mend. So its realy not worth speccing in unless you are making a buffbot/pl bot. PL'ing tanks up to lvl ~20 is pwnage with frig and endregen. After that it starts to work less effective.
 
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Cush

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Originally posted by Cami
you can go 38a 39c 4m for the 2nd rvr spec

as i 'said', im 38a 37c 9m, i still get a decent ae root (31 instead of 39) and all the other spells are the same (in aug/cave anyway) + i get cure dissease/poison.

I agree, in fg vs fg combat the matter reists aint 'that' important, but its still handy if you are defending/attacking keeps against cabas etc ;)

Besides, dot procs, which 90%(?) of the players out there use are matter.
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Cami you cant. You can go 37a 39c 4m not 38a
 
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znappi

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I find 43a 31c and 10m usefull in RvR..!

Goood buffs, End 5 (all in grp Sprint + Max skald speed), Ae decease / Ae root, Cure poison/decease!
 
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Damon_D

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Hmmm 47 aug 26 mend and park him at pk..thats what I did since they " fix'd " our end buff
 
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TodinStark

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You can spec a Shammy in many different ways but don't miss to get: pboae Disease, Cure Disease/Poison, End 4. How you spec after that is a matter about what role you wish to have.
 
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Urgat Rip-Eye

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Urgat

Urgat is..

41 (+14) Cave.

32 (+14) Aug.

14 (+14) Mend.

This gets me...

Best Bolt/DD, Second best AE DOT, And high damage caps on Cave spells. (it is not unusual for me to kill an enemy caster with just bolt/DOT or DD/DOT. Great AE root, great AE desease, and great PB deasease shout.

End4 (permasprint with LW1) 3 group resist buffs, and decent spec buffs.

Cure poison/desease, a low group heal, and top basline heals for between 270 and 350.


I honestly cant think of a better way to spec a shaman.
 
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Cush

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Re: Urgat

Originally posted by Urgat Rip-Eye
Urgat is..

41 (+14) Cave.

32 (+14) Aug.

14 (+14) Mend.

This gets me...

Best Bolt/DD, Second best AE DOT, And high damage caps on Cave spells. (it is not unusual for me to kill an enemy caster with just bolt/DOT or DD/DOT. Great AE root, great AE desease, and great PB deasease shout.

End4 (permasprint with LW1) 3 group resist buffs, and decent spec buffs.

Cure poison/desease, a low group heal, and top basline heals for between 270 and 350.


I honestly cant think of a better way to spec a shaman.
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Only downside to this is the lack of yellow resists
 
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Virr

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I'm going 38aug\9mend\37cave on my shaman, almost 50 now :>
 
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Blood

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my cave shammy Bleeed is 47 cave, 22 aug, 14 mend :)

wild arcana 3, lw 2, and ichor, and you are set, get serenity then :)

even my reactive dot procs crit all the time.


my old shaman is specced 37 aug, 37 cave, 12 mend.. but i think Bleeed is alot more fun to play.
 
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