Yei, more "games are bad" propaganda.

[old.Tohtori]

More bullsh*T from the antigame community.

"I played 12 hours straight" Wuz....try two days striaght

This is just ridicilous.

 

[Himse]

lols, tbh, she could just stop his subs? :/

 

[Garok]

This is just ridicilous.

.......that they dont realise it keeps 90% of the social retards that have posted below the clip out of the big wide world.

This is a "good" thing !

 

[NikonL]

Yawn, more one sided coverage. Am i just getting older/wiser or is the media becoming less and less subtle in its attempts to selectively cover a story to induce bias?

 

[Eeben]

lols, tbh, she could just stop his subs? :/

or cancel the internet


love the part where he says he is addicetet but he can stop when ever he wants.. then your not addictet

 

[NikonL]

love the part where he says he is addicetet but he can stop when ever he wants.. then your not addictet

Well thats the mantra of addicts everywhere isnt it? "I can give it up whenever i like".

Put it this way, the news coverage shows him concentrating hard, swearing, being violent. And talks about the severe negative effects and so on. Not once does it show him laughing, joking with this friends on ventrillo, acheiving something ingame, or anything remotely positive. That right there spells biased coverage, and thats why i wont beleive them when they say internet addiction is a problem.

 

[Dukat]

Its like Cyanide and Happiness.

I'm not addicted to games! its the games that are addicted to me!

oh noes, its CS! help! arrrr *plays CS*

:touch:





I watched around 15 seconds then turned it off, its the same old story. They talk like what they're saying is sensational, when in actual fact captain obvious has said more suprising things.

"...teenager hooked on voilent computer games! he's playing them an incredable 16 hours a day! his mother says his personality has changed! he's become moody and violent!"

sounds to me like:

"...news just in! two plus two is, infact, four! thats right folks, two, added to two, results in an amazing four! obviously this groundbreaking news will herald a new age for humanity!"

 

[leviathane]

this has been posted befor

 

[Overdriven]

"I played 12 hours straight" Wuz....try two days striaght

Totally agree, 12 hours is nothing to a proper gamer.. Fuck, I did 2-3 days solid on DAoC at a time during the whole "I have nothing to do" part of my year...

This is just ridicilous.

Completely agree, who could play WoW for 12 hours straight?



What do they expect though?

 

[Darzil]

Could use nearly the same footage with a "Why do young people who live in poor housing with no privacy seek escapist entertainment ?" slant.

Darzil

 

[Chronictank]

Totally agree, 12 hours is nothing to a proper gamer.. Fuck, I did 2-3 days solid on DAoC at a time during the whole "I have nothing to do" part of my year...

Lol remember 2-3 day malmo?AC stints ><

tbh were all addicted to something, i rather it be little pixles on a screen than going out and shooting up on one drug or another
provided it doesnt interfere with the rest of your life i fail to see why its "o so bad"

 

[Basic_X]

tbh were all addicted to something, i rather it be little pixles on a screen than going out and shooting up on one drug or another

when i started Daoc i told my parrents exactly that ;P
My daoc addiction havnt been that bad, i can quit whenever i want (never heard that one before now how we ^^) but i dont got anything better (imo) to fill my spare time. and i got alot of spare time, living alone - working. dont realy got anny hobbies.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

ive been there done that and brought the tshirt and wasted time. I think many of u guys posting are posting out of denial, its bad and there are so much better things u can be doing in your life. I look back now and know it was mmporg addiction. These games shuld never have been created, yes u have fun but there are better ways to do it.

 

[tris-]

These games shuld never have been created, yes u have fun but there are better ways to do it.

whos to say what a better way to have fun is?

i think smoking pot is better fun than reading books, but other people are gonna say its vice versa right?

 

[Mojo]

It's the accesabilty of the games that makes in habbit forming, you are bored and u can log on in 15 secs and hey presto boredom gone. If guys could get pussy in 15 secconds they would be shagging them selves raw instead.

 

[Jeremiah]

if guys could get pussy in 15 secconds they would be shagging them selves raw instead.

I wouldnt, but thats because I'm not 14

I think theres a fine line between "It's something to do" and addiction, and its really hard to tell when you've crossed that line. I got addicted for 2+ years - I know I was addicted because I was cancelling stuff and ignoring other stuff just so I could play. It wasnt "something to do" then, it became something I organised my time around.

For some, it really is just something to do while your better half is watching TV, or a weeknight when you cant be bothered going out. Its when you are still playing after she is away to bed, or cancelling your weekends out just to play that it becomes more serious

 

[Huntingtons]

korgon, stop that self-rightious cow-like-anal-dumping. you would be a pain if it was jesus you had found instead of your dick :/

 

[Coldbeard]

I find his t-shirt more disturbing than his gaming habits!

 

[old.Tohtori]

ive been there done that and brought the tshirt and wasted time. I think many of u guys posting are posting out of denial, its bad and there are so much better things u can be doing in your life. I look back now and know it was mmporg addiction. These games shuld never have been created, yes u have fun but there are better ways to do it.

But who's to judge what is a good waste of time. 'cause that's what everything is basicly.

I'm actually posting 'cause i'm defending my livelyhood

Being a game designer and all, i find this attack on games(when you should be looking at original mental state and parenting) unjust.

Some kids think it's fun to go out, get trashed and..err...trash stuff. Some find it fun to go lift weights 6 days a week. And the list goes on, it's just another hobby, like anything else, and i personally don't find anything wrong in sitting infront of the computer if you like it.

 

[Gamah]

16 hours a day? The fag sleeps? Weak. I did 3 days solid of daoc once /core to be fair..why play a game when you can just spend the time spaming the forums!

 

[Coldbeard]

But who's to judge what is a good waste of time. 'cause that's what everything is basicly.

I'm actually posting 'cause i'm defending my livelyhood

Being a game designer and all, i find this attack on games(when you should be looking at original mental state and parenting) unjust.

Some kids think it's fun to go out, get trashed and..err...trash stuff. Some find it fun to go lift weights 6 days a week. And the list goes on, it's just another hobby, like anything else, and i personally don't find anything wrong in sitting infront of the computer if you like it.

Well said

 

[Bugz]

ive been there done that and brought the tshirt and wasted time. I think many of u guys posting are posting out of denial, its bad and there are so much better things u can be doing in your life. I look back now and know it was mmporg addiction. These games shuld never have been created, yes u have fun but there are better ways to do it.

Biggest pile of bullshit on this thread so far.

It's a hobby ffs. I don't look back on my gaming history and think it's a load of shit. I've met some great people, developed myself, learnt alot & probably achieved more than i would have done otherwise (knowing me, i'd have mixed with the wrong crowd).

I game alot. Probably 2-3 hours a day and yet I still manage to achieve a social life, have a job, have a girlfriend and complete school work etc. If I can do all of them things and have time for gaming - then it's not really wasted time - as it's a hobby.

As for addiction, it's a dodgy word. It is a compulsion/overpowering urge to do something. I know a lot of us here could have the ability to step back from a game if the need arised & I know a lot of us here do the necessities before we log onto the game. We don't skip work to play the game - we don't refuse secks/bum secks for the game yada yada.

It really pisses me off this idea that a) everyone playing mmorpgs must have an addiction, b) we're all geeks, c) we're wasting our lifes.

News-fuckin-flash - it's called a hobby and none of us fail to give a toss what the media decides to coverage in the way of bias slush.

P.S - If anyone here is a journalist - quit your job! ^^

 

[psyco]

Biggest pile of bullshit on this thread so far.

It's a hobby ffs. I don't look back on my gaming history and think it's a load of shit. I've met some great people, developed myself, learnt alot & probably achieved more than i would have done otherwise (knowing me, i'd have mixed with the wrong crowd).

I game alot. Probably 2-3 hours a day and yet I still manage to achieve a social life, have a job, have a girlfriend and complete school work etc. If I can do all of them things and have time for gaming - then it's not really wasted time - as it's a hobby.

As for addiction, it's a dodgy word. It is a compulsion/overpowering urge to do something. I know a lot of us here could have the ability to step back from a game if the need arised & I know a lot of us here do the necessities before we log onto the game. We don't skip work to play the game - we don't refuse secks/bum secks for the game yada yada.

It really pisses me off this idea that a) everyone playing mmorpgs must have an addiction, b) we're all geeks, c) we're wasting our lifes.

News-fuckin-flash - it's called a hobby and none of us fail to give a toss what the media decides to coverage in the way of bias slush.

P.S - If anyone here is a journalist - quit your job! ^^

big boy bugz, learning to argue his point... however im not going to insult you

but i feel that video games are pointless for people who dont enjoy them, sure its a hobby but then again, people take drug's 'socially', they enjoy using them, they don't feel the need to keep a constant level of drugs in there blood stream, but that's not prohibited... and those people would consider it as a hobby, is it bad? yes in the long run

 

[Blackjack]

Addiction to these games does happen, but there is so many worse things someone could get addicted to. And they present it like it's sweeping the world corrupting the kids.

The give the "14 year old Chinese boy killed himself, because he played 36 hours straight"
Ok, first. His parents should have smacked his ass to bed.

Second, lets just take a look at the statistics for a minute;

WoW has 8 million subscribers;
1,5 Million in europe
2 Million in northamerica
3,5 million in china.
and 1 million scattered around other countries throughout the world.

Now;
The suicide rate for UK, as i'll use for europe in this instance. Was around 14 in every 100.000 people in 2002
so thats 210 out of 15000000 people.

Suicide rate for the US was around 22 per 100.000, thats 440 more people.

Now China also has 22 as per 2004. And the main cause of death among young people in China is infact suicide.
But no reason to get into the suicide rate among different groups. Since people from pretty much all walks of life play WoW, Lawyers, dentist, students, freeloaders, policemen etc etc.
But it would be 770 out of the 3.5 million

So there should be around 1420 people playing WoW that kills themselfs every year, just in europe, northamerica and china. Not taking into account the misc last million. I'm surprised we don't see more, supposed WoW induced suicides. Being used against the entire gaming industry.

 

[Blackjack]

so thats 210 out of 15000000 people.

Thats 1500000 of course.

 

[liloe]

I don't think the report is THAT bad. I mean it doesn't judge the situation that much after all. They ask a few people about it, they give opinions which are well known often enough. Yer ok, "he's gotten more aggressive" is an old argument, but internet-addiction is an existing fact.

I used to spend much more time with DAoC aswell, now I play when I'm bored (that means when I'm at home =)) ). After all it's a fun game and I like it a lot. So talking to people via TS is nerdy but phoning friends is not? I don't see such a big difference =)

Really Subedai, I don't fully agree with you. Sure there is a line one should not cross, but that's the same thing everywhere. I know someone who goes to a gym so often, that's he sometimes spends more time there than with his family. Other situation, but the same thing in the end.

What scares me more is that games are used as alternative to social education by many parents. It's so much easier to put your child in front of a computer than to spend time with it. Sure, kids grow older and they don't want their parents around all day long, but the group which is most often under the spotlight are those ~14y old teens who should go to school more instead of watching TV/playing computer games. People - and especially teenage kids - are getting dumber each day. Listen to their conversations in the bus, see how they express themselves and you will find that it's not only different from the past, but also alarmingly influenced by modern media.

We're not talking about older gamers who sometimes spend the night playing, cause we can do it, I think all of us know that there's a uni/job to do. The problem with younger kids is, that their point of view is still very modifyable, which means that parents should take more initiative. Just look at the example in the video. It shows parents who don't know what to do. I can tell you for sure that if I had played so long at this age, my dad would've plugged out the fuses for my room, be assured. Sounds harsh at first, but after all our social life shouldn't revolve around a screen. Parents are becoming more and more unsure, because they are being influenced aswell. So called experts pop up everywhere and tell parents how to educate their children best and the good old "iron hand" tends to disappear in these fantastic new books of education. Parents are becoming more and more passive, because they don't want to "disturb the development of their child" which is the wrong sight of things in my opinion. Teenage kids want to look up to someone, so they start to experiment. The media is a huge point of influence, which means that today's parents need to stand up and show their children where the difference between the "media world" and the real world is.

Now don't get me wrong, I think some of us played Superman or Batman in the schoolyard, so why shouldn't kids from today play Pokémon or whatever else in the schoolyard. It's more the degree of abstraction that has decreased over time. If you ask me - and yes, that's my very personal opinion, nothing scientifically proven - the new media are trying to dictate young people's lives instead of simply influencing them, which is the worst thing that can happen. Children are being influenced, that's a fact, so well, we played Cowboy and Indians in the schoolyard and we had plenty of ideas. The ideas of today are printed on cards and leave less room for imagination, a crucial thing for kids.

Back to WoW or whatever MMORPG we want to take. Especially teenage kids are looking at it as an example of how to do things and while you'll never hear one say that raiding a supermarket or killing others for RP's is the future he believes to be his, you will still see a difference in their actions.

I have to take my own advice now though and not become addicted to posting =)) Bed time =)

 

[~Latency~]

As much as korgon is a self righteous bastard, he's right though. When i was addicted, i made friends who were addicted too, and we'd bum most days playing in excess of 10hours per day, and there are thousands of people who do the same thing everyday and have been doing it for years and that is real addiction and its a waste of life.

2-3hours a day, wow bugs lol thats not an addiction or a lot of time, addiction for people is the feeling they need to play and be online, to even sit online and do nothing would be alrite.

It's been like 2 years atleast since i stopped being addicted and you really do look back and its shocking how much time u can waste playing games, and yes waste, when your addicted and playing 10 hours a day, you could be working, everyday you didnt work when you couldve you have wasted your own time. Same with studying or whatever your goals are in life.

I still know loads of people who are totally addicted, some people on this forum no doubt addicted using the game to fill the gap in their life and its really sad, no matter what you say or do to make them see sense they just cant kick the habbit and thats why its such a concern i think. Even my own friends who play, they work go home and go straight onto their game till the early hours, everydays the same for them, and these guys are young and mature, everyones at risk!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!¬

 

[Blackjack]

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!¬

Thats just cruel, you know the addicts are too out of shape to run anywhere

 

[Asha]

She is a moron if she can't figure out that she could just cancel her inet and be done with it.

http://www.hemmy.net/2007/01/29/world-of-warcraft-addiction-on-tyra-banks-show/

That story is quite sad. It's sad because he is grinning away while he shreds the cd knowing full fucking well that he doesn't need the cds to play WoW. I feel sorry for that chick because she probably thought she made a breakthrough there. The fact that the host and her medical expert have no idea what they are talking about is a bit funny though.

 

[AngelHeal]

lol that guy, where do these players come from? (or whatever)

"blabla, Germany, all of europe, england" ...

n1=)