xp3000+ and FSB

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adams901

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OK a question I probally should know the answer to but...

To my knowlege the xp3000+ CPU has an FSB of 333, after doing a bit of googleing and reading various forums I have noticed a lot of people mention "I hope my Motherboard can handle 200 FSB".

Why do they hope their motherboard can handle 200 FSB when the chip runs at 333?.
 
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Jonty

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Hi adams901

As TdC points out, you have to effectively double the front side bus (FSB) to take into account the double data rate (DDR). So, for example, a board with support for a 200Mhz FSB, when doubled, becomes 400Mhz (although the only CPU which supports this is the AMD AthlonXP 3200+). For your needs, you need a motherboard with 166Mhz FSB support, which becomes 333Mhz :)

Kind Regards

Jonty

P.S. Just for reference, Intel's latest kit is effectively quadrupled, so 200Mhz FSB becomes 800Mhz and so on.
 
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Testin da Cable

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'quadrupled' doesn't sound dodgy at all :)
 
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Jonty

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Originally posted by Testin da Cable
'quad-pumped' sounds terribly dodgy imo :)
LOL :D Sorry. I read it in an article, and I guess it has implanted itself in my memory. Changed to 'quadrupled', now, a far less provocative term :p

Kind Regards

Edit ~ Blame it on The Inquirer :D
 
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adams901

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ok, excuse my stupidity (its been a long day at work).

Edit:// Guess what im trying to say is... If I know a motherboard supports the MhZ do I need to worry about the FSB? The Asus website says it supports pc2700 so with the correct CPU I can expect the memory to run at full speed?

I guess I would only need to worry about FSB if I was going to overclock.
 
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(Shovel)

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We wish!

Sadly, when AMD switched to a 333Mhz Bus, they released new versions of existing chips. There are at least two versions of the 2500+, two of the 2600+, same for 2700+. A 266Mhz and 333Mhz. So no, you can't rely purely on a "Supports XP 2700+".

Though, if you have one that says "Supports 3000+" then you can be sure it has 333 support. And if "Supports XP 3200+" then 400 Support.

Some Mobos will support 400 with a BIOS update.
 
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xane

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Originally posted by adams901
Edit:// Guess what im trying to say is... If I know a motherboard supports the MhZ do I need to worry about the FSB? The Asus website says it supports pc2700 so with the correct CPU I can expect the memory to run at full speed?

I think you'll find most of the modern motherboards can run CPU FSB and RAM FSB speeds independently.

At least that's what I am hoping, I've just ordered an A7N8X Deluxe for my older Athlon and PC2100 RAM, although they are both 266Mhz FSB at the moment I am hoping to upgrade each independently.
 
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(Shovel)

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Yes, RAM FSB and CPU FSB can be run independently. Here we have a 266 XP2100 and 333DDR RAM.
 

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