Windows 2000 SP3, GeForce 4 Ti 4400, MSI MOBO KT266A, AMD Athlon 900 <- Big Problems

[SevenSins]

Hey all,

Lately I decided to upgrade from a GeForce 2 mx (ugh) to a GeForce 4 Ti 4400 (yay! ) but on my system this has brought forth a hell of a lot of problems.

First of all I was running windows XP, granted my card got stuck in a so called: "Infinite Loop" which cannot be fixed.

Advice was: Run windows 2000.

So me, as a happy camper and well believer installed windows 2000 to find new problems!

To my suprise daoc ran just fine for about, let's say 10 minutes.

Then it just shuts down with: Game.dll.exe error, if you boot daoc again, then the errors can be Game.dll.exe error, but you can also get a bluescreen saying: STOP PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA 0x00000050 (0xB5255E50,0x00000000,0xB5680679,0x00000000)

nv4disp.dll

Now, I've tried almost everything, from limiting the maximum memory used for the NT Kernel, to limiting my Virtual Memory within windows, I've tried 2mb->4095mb, 766->768, nothing just works.

The above setting about 766-768 makes daoc run longer... sure... but with 4x FSAA on somehow I get a FPS degration it's mad (This card was made btw, for high detail etc, and I know my processors just fine innit.)

I'm posting here mainly hoping someone had a problem similar to mine and fixed it, willing to share his bits and pieces of error correction with me (The windows KB is just fucked up, the only sollution they give is: deinstall novell client, wtf? novell client? since when am I running novell???)

On a side note:

Almost every D3D game locks up after having played for like 5-10 mins.

P.S: I got Directx 8.1, tried Nvidia Detonater 20.80(don't ask, but it didn''t work ) 30.82(WHQL cert.) 40.71(beta not WHQL cert. seems to be more stable somehow but still gives the boot)

Thanks in advance..

 

[SevenSins]

P.P.S: I've disabled Caching of everything in the bios to see if it helps, the playtime is the same, but the FPS gets downgraded like mad.

AGP Aperture is on 128 mb, tried 64/256.. no difference except performance.

 

[blain]

Last week my computer consisted of
Cheap Shitty MB
AMD Athlon K7 900
TNT Riva N64
Running XP

Then I upgraded to
MSI K3 ultra MB
AMD Athlon k7 900
GeForce 4 Ti4200

and my computer works with no problems.

May I recommend that you do the following
FDISK
Install XP
Install Drivers from Disk
Install Camelot
Let me know if it doesn't work

 

[furious_george]

Hmm i too had several problems with a similar (ish) setup.
I broke it down to a couple of things:

1) Basically the error that u get in regards to nv4disp.dll
means that theres something wrong with the graphics card drivers/setup. This could have come about due to corruption in the file, or irq sharing errors i believe.

In short, the only way that i could stop the errors was to reinstall windows 2000 but without using the irq sharing thingy/APM (press f5 when the windows setup loads and select standard pc with i486 or something very similar)

2) i removed one of my sticks of memory, because i ahve long suspected it was knackered, leaving me with 256, This however coincided with me doing the above, altho i have reinstalled since without using the f5 thing and got lots of freezes/crashing.

Dunno if that will help, but since ive doen that ive had no problems, can run daoc for hours no problems

 

[Danya]

I have an Athlon with a Ti4600, had some problems, but updating the drivers fixed it (iirc I'm on 30.30 atm, but I'd have to check to be sure).

 

[SevenSins]

Hi all, thanks for the feedback.

furious_george: I've checked the IRQ's before doing anything about drivers really, the first thing I check when problems appear is my hardware, let be software assignment of the internal IRQ's.
All my devices have there own assigned, nothing is shared, although: My NIC was on the shared AGP PCI slot, which I moved, but didn't helped a thing :-/
Also tried the memory thing, replaced my 512Mb with 256Mb TwinMos (most stable memory out there IMHO).

Reinstalling windows, driver setup etc etc, did it a couple of times, with and without F5 for the i386 setting, hasn't worked for me, tried various VIA4in1 drivers and nVidia Detonators in windows 2000, no luck.

Windows XP has the nifty Infinite Loop problem (shared by c.a 12000 users owning a GeForce 4 4400> with a VIA chipset and Windows XP) for me in petto, so only sollution for that was Windows 2000.

Now I recently upgraded to SP 3, which does not fix anything either, only fixes my HD which runs in PIO mode when installing a clean copy of Windows 2000.

I might try Windows 2000, downgrade to SP2, get VIA/AGP MicroSoft hotfix, hope that'll do the trick when this PSU has shown to be a big failure.

I also tried some things I found on several forums with people seeking help with this problem just like me, from registry changed to limit the NTOS kernel, to force my swap file to be 4 gig (Hasn't worked btw )

Dannyn: Updating/Changing/Downgrading drivers/settings hasn't worked either, keeps giving the same damned message, a nice BSOD that is.

Currently I'm trying a new PSU (InWin 350 WHigh Quality), I have to admit that I was too easy on trusting a 250W PSU (InWin 250W High Quality) to supply my K7/MSI/GF4, it's just a test, hoping on success as this might help.

I'm open to lots more suggestions, as I have tried almost everything god forbid me too, I'll try anything to fix this godforsaken problem.

Thanks again for the feedback all, I'll keep you updated what this new PSU brings forth (Yes I'm going to reinstall now )

 

[SevenSins]

Well, the new PSU has done it for me.

No more problems...

I should really look into the voltages a GeForce uses next time, this baby is a drainer 1st class!

Thanks for all the support, problem solved

 

[old.job]

Hey Sin ,have you ever noticed that the more you know about PC's the more problems you have.
Your nextdoor niegbours Grandma could buy the same system and have no problems whatsoever.

Annoying innit

 

[SevenSins]

You know, the worst part is I work in a computer shop where we have almost instant service for people with problems with their computer.

We usually fix those problems, sometimes hard ones, in a matter of 30 mins/1 hour.

Now, when we encounter soft/hardware problems inside the company or private use at home it takes us days, sometimes weeks to fix it, and I still can't understand why, mainly at home you don't have the possibility to i.e: switch PSU's, or other components or even software for that matter (unless you got a Fileserver with shitloads of software running in your network).

Oh well, the life of a ICT'er, sucks to be honest

 

[Ragnarok1978]

Mainly I think it's the hardware that just doesn't like eachother, since many with the same kinda setup has the same kind of problems.

However, I haven't seen anyone recommend you running a dxdiag and look for problems, and make sure all the direcx files are of the 8.1 variety, might help.

Other than that, I dunno.

 

[SevenSins]

Read the part where I said, problem solved.

Thanks though