Why you should take a good hero (eg me!) in every group.

[Novamir]

- Bodyguard and grapple comes as standard.
- Purge -> pbae Group Purge (or at least purge the bard if everyone's spaced out).
- A total bitch to nuke down. The most hitpoints in the realm, 15% passive magic resists, Moose and Fury (+50% to all magic resists for 10sec).
- Slam. Nothing beats anytime uninterruptable stun when pets are flying everywhere. Plus I simply LOVE killing ML9 pets.
- Determination. Can a warden get that? No!
- Immune to melee damage when needed. Combat awareness gives 50% evade to all attacks for 30 seconds.
- 10sec group buff which makes Chance to Resist Debuffs 50%. Also 3% group absorb buff. Nice to have! Rly.
- Javelins from Golden Spear give me a ranged aoe 2-tick dot! They can be used every 30seconds! I can even interrupt like a BANELORD!
- Sick damage. I have 416 str fully buffed and MoPain5. With battler I can solo anything in 3 hits. I also have Celerity proc shield and overcapped Qui. I have malice (and bruiser for pallies). I CAN ANNIHILATE! I AM STRONGER THAN A ZERK IN HAMSTERMODE!

love,

nova

 

[Lethul]

i dont want novamir to get groups simply because it would be impossible to get RP on my mid/alb chars playing against that legend again.

 

[Ryuno]

If your not a luri, all those points are null and void.

Luri > all

 

[Frozodo]

If your not a luri, all those points are null and void.

Luri > all

nothing beats my luwi ml10 Spearo

 

[Punishment]

Lol i remember on my Hero standing @ dl for months before i got bodyguard yelling Hero lfg ... and i kept getting rejected because no bodyguard ...

Then after after weeks i got ml8 and bg 1ml a week over 2 months ... went out to dl and yelled ... BG Hero Lfg ... and u know what ... i still didn't get a group

Kinda sums up my experience with my Hero

 

[Janósch]

Someone is having problems getting groups

Dno atm i prefere 3rd caster or 2nd bard over warden/hero.

Dont really need BG with current tank situation..
A tank following a caster / healer moving back towards his casters wont be able to do more then a few swings.. have ran wo BG now for a verry long time and im not missing it.

Group purge is najs, but with more mentas around thats not an argument. And neither is the amouth of HPs due to you not beeing a threat.

sry!

/staj

 

[Frozensolid]

Then after after weeks i got ml8 and bg 1ml a week over 2 months ... went out to dl and yelled ... BG Hero Lfg ... and u know what ... i still didn't get a group

I can tell u worse situations from personal experience ;>

 

[Hrymf]

- Bodyguard and grapple comes as standard.
- Purge -> pbae Group Purge (or at least purge the bard if everyone's spaced out).
- A total bitch to nuke down. The most hitpoints in the realm, 15% passive magic resists, Moose and Fury (+50% to all magic resists for 10sec).
- Slam. Nothing beats anytime uninterruptable stun when pets are flying everywhere. Plus I simply LOVE killing ML9 pets.
- Determination. Can a warden get that? No!
- Immune to melee damage when needed. Combat awareness gives 50% evade to all attacks for 30 seconds.
- 10sec group buff which makes Chance to Resist Debuffs 50%. Also 3% group absorb buff. Nice to have! Rly.
- Javelins from Golden Spear give me a ranged aoe 2-tick dot! They can be used every 30seconds! I can even interrupt like a BANELORD!
- Sick damage. I have 416 str fully buffed and MoPain5. With battler I can solo anything in 3 hits. I also have Celerity proc shield and overcapped Qui. I have malice (and bruiser for pallies). I CAN ANNIHILATE! I AM STRONGER THAN A ZERK IN HAMSTERMODE!

love,

nova

Actually warden can get Determination. But anyway, we use warlord heros in our group and we often run with 2 of them, the dmg is great, SB+warguard is even greater and they are very hard to kill so even when they run into a bunch of casters they wont instant die or the like.

As for hero with bodyguard, i prefere warden for that. Warden get a well rounded abilities for many different situations, be it healing, powertapping or interupting (which they also have twf for). Also warden resists and even the chants are nice, we run a tank group and when 3 tanks suddenly get to hit for 30dmg each hit it actually do help some.

If there was alot more tank groups on the enemy side out there, it would maybe be worth having hero for BGer, but atm its mostly caster groups you face and against those you are better off with better resists, extra heals and powertapping, you could even put in a caster instead of bger these days and it would not be a problem at all.

So my advice is to try find someone who play with hero's for the dps and maybe go warlord to play with them, at least our guild heros are doing fine with it

 

[Novamir]

Someone is having problems getting groups

Dno atm i prefere 3rd caster or 2nd bard over warden/hero.

Dont really need BG with current tank situation..
A tank following a caster / healer moving back towards his casters wont be able to do more then a few swings.. have ran wo BG now for a verry long time and im not missing it.

Group purge is najs, but with more mentas around thats not an argument. And neither is the amouth of HPs due to you not beeing a threat.

sry!

/staj

k understand but.. i am a threat definitely. I can and do solo kill casters in 2/3 hits in FG rvr if i get a chance!

 

[Eleasias]

you forgot SB3!

 

[Novamir]

well i just respecced to AoM5/Det4/Purge2/Str3/Pain3. i think it will be better.

 

[Javlar]

Big <3 Nova.

I promise to duo with you when im groupless.

 

[Elrandhir]

well i just respecced to AoM5/Det4/Purge2/Str3/Pain3. i think it will be better.

U need SB3 a group will cry bigtime if the hero dosent have SB3 tbh, and It's a big loss if he dosent have it.

25% resistance to everything in 30 secs for the whole group is just to much to loose out on.

 

[Spamb0t]

det5 sb3, then some dmg i guess.. imo ;p

 

[whinersmincer]

k understand but.. i am a threat definitely. I can and do solo kill casters in 2/3 hits in FG rvr if i get a chance!

yeah but the bm can aswell

 

[censi]

Sold!

you can group with my ranger any time

 

[cjkace]

Threads like this make me glad I quit.

'Cos when a good RVRer like Nova has to beg at FH for a group, a mediocre one like I was would be standing at DL all the time.

Remember you n me at the old Alb wall Nova?...and you slammed Aussie just as he jumped...

 

[Icebreaker]

Fuck Mythic!

and by the way just a idiot would refuse to group nova!!!

 

[Tuorin]

Hero works fine as Bg still Hrymf, it gives dps and some other stuff that has been proven to be useful. Ask Slayn for some of our ec vids with hero poonage as bg. Warden does suffer a heck of a lot more in bg department than hero.

Playing both, its grp setup dependent which is best, warden can be better when 3 casters 1 BL, hero is ok when 2 BL, 2 casters. As an example, with matter debuff I hit a BD 3 weeks ago for 1208 damage with 1 hit. Fine to run without Bg too, but its rather crap for rest of the daoc population when the Hib group is 2 BLs, Eld, Chanter, Bain, 3 support.

Mythic got the fluff wrong for heavy tanks, I would have given moose away for some form of ranged non melee (non javelin) interupt. Longish timer sure, but _anything_ would improve the chances to group. If they gave hero a single targetted ranged insta irupt on say 30sec timer then there would probably no BG heroes yeh.

Warlord is okay, but tad overated, someone pmed me othernight and asked if I was warlord, said no, didnt get group, complete loller.

Hi Nova

 

[Hrymf]

Hero works fine as Bg still Hrymf, it gives dps and some other stuff that has been proven to be useful. Ask Slayn for some of our ec vids with hero poonage as bg. Warden does suffer a heck of a lot more in bg department than hero.

Playing both, its grp setup dependent which is best, warden can be better when 3 casters 1 BL, hero is ok when 2 BL, 2 casters. As an example, with matter debuff I hit a BD 3 weeks ago for 1208 damage with 1 hit. Fine to run without Bg too, but its rather crap for rest of the daoc population when the Hib group is 2 BLs, Eld, Chanter, Bain, 3 support.

Mythic got the fluff wrong for heavy tanks, I would have given moose away for some form of ranged non melee (non javelin) interupt. Longish timer sure, but _anything_ would improve the chances to group. If they gave hero a single targetted ranged insta irupt on say 30sec timer then there would probably no BG heroes yeh.

Warlord is okay, but tad overated, someone pmed me othernight and asked if I was warlord, said no, didnt get group, complete loller.

Hi Nova

Never said BG hero dont work, but imo the current ways of rvr these days have very little tank groups about and most often you get more from having warden for BG since he can add alot more in caster fights than a hero can.
Even groups who run with 2-3 tanks like for example septina's group on mid dont use the tanks for actually dps that often... its just BL bots and septina as grapple+BG bot :<
Another factor could simple be that warden is a bit more reliable for BG, since they can stand back and do fine, so often its alot easier to take a warden you dont know rather than take a hero you dont know, because often that hero might just be one of them tanks who just have to run into enemy and whack away rather than stay back and BG...

As for the BoF problem, we dont really have that in our guild, since our druids go with moc3+DI instead, so when we have 2 heros in group they take turn on using warguard+SB3

In the end any setup can work, aslong you got people willing or interested in playing it and learning how to use it

 

[Yurka]

heros are fine, its just so many ppl rely on 2 bl tanks for their interrupts... I would prefer seeing more pd bainshees doing a BD roll of being melee immune and keeping whole supports interrupted... They've got a 2300 range taunt, for all purposes its an instant with .8 sec reuse time. Why more bainshees don't take over more as a interrupt bot roll i do not know (it's not just about that "LOOK WHAT DMG I GOT MATES")... Most BL tanks on seem just to dump BL when it really isn't needed and miss judge charge/interrupt runs (as solo bm ingroup) hence people needing two to make up for one being crap.

For the people that know you im sure theres np problem giving you space in groups(those people also tended to be better players), if there is space. But there is a shortage of those people left...

 

[Novamir]

well i respecced RAs AGAIN!


Now i got Det5, Purge2, SB3, MoPain3, MoStr1, LW1 which i'm sticking with.

 

[Gray-CF]

ill renew on my ranger acct and grp with ya Nova

 

[Guindor]

- I CAN ANNIHILATE! I AM STRONGER THAN A ZERK IN HAMSTERMODE!

nova

My zerker in zerk mode and battler ( ! ) can for sure shot u
Really sry

 

[Gahn]

well i respecced RAs AGAIN!


Now i got Det5, Purge2, SB3, MoPain3, MoStr1, LW1 which i'm sticking with.

With Deter 5 and capped resists u really don't need purge in group rvr and can rack up with passives.
Am warlord and atm am deter5, Aug Stre 4, MoPain 4, LW 1, Aug Qui 1, AoM 2.
Works wonders for me ^^

 

[Rauno]

thats a nice RA spec nova

but anyway ive ben running whit 3 casters hero bm lately and its realy nice tbh as usualy once you have killed enemy tanks you win the fight and hero is a huge help in that as they can slam or grapple the tank call it out and the target dies, slam works better tho as hero does very nice damage whit LW and after matter debuff the frontload damage hero can make is insane also can go offencive when needed slamming targets for casters and assisting.

 

[Galid]

u will always be my first choice for a hero noobamir ;D

just be ingame when i make em u c*nt

 

[Fifta]

Now when we are at this someone could give my druid/champ a group too!

 

[Cemeterygates]

givf dark age of tankalot!!! tanks are the most fun imo.
an while we are at it i need to get a temp done..my cl's an some more ml's so after that would anyone be interested in tryin to set up a tank grp?