Why is it impossible to kill a vamp?

[Airwalker]

healing him self in combat, DD's in combat, hit's fucking hard. why?

it's a cp class no doubt

 

[Vladamir]

I've never had a problem killing a vamp, maybe its you?

 

[sphir]

....said the minstrell

 

[Enli]

vamp loses vs shield tanks, stun classes(minc) and in a pwr drain ward

 

[Devilseye]

I have a fucking helluva hard time killing anything on my vamp :x

VE spec is your friend (48ve-13sm)

target tank/stealther.. powerbolt (wub champion stuff. every1 has a power pool these days )

40% evade buff..
11% parry buff..
50% fumble (if you wanna be lame.. )
leech 30 or 35% endurance..
get power up.. and use your claws (hits pretty hard tbh :X)

target caster..
power bolt them (interupt).. if they cast again (prolly quickcast) use charge... (javelins help aswell :>)
30% wsbuff..
endo tap cause their prolly running.. or MoCing

use ml1 banelord to slow them down @ cast speed (if moccing)
use Ip2 if needed.. (tho youll prolly die if its a 400dex sorc)
oh well. something like that?

 

[RandomDotCom]

healing him self in combat, DD's in combat, hit's fucking hard. why?

it's a cp class no doubt

cuz you suck XD

 

[Meski]

there are some good mincers out there that i loose sometimes to. but they have to have everything up + ml's too.

shield tanks, crush mercs are definitly a hard time. sometimes warlocks, and moc casters. and sometimes very high rr sth's, when pa+cd gets in.

such qq.

 

[Mirt]

I think a minsteral is going to have a hard time vs a vampiir regardless of spec.

VE ones in particular are going to own any minsteral in melee unless they use battler + warguard, and to be honest if the vamp gets fumble/evade/parry up you won't be doiing much damage in melee (not that minsterals ever did), and your DDs will be your main damage source.

I suggest kiting the vamp, or if you can be bothered try a buffed pet.

 

[Devilseye]

I think a minsteral is going to have a hard time vs a vampiir regardless of spec.

VE ones in particular are going to own any minsteral in melee unless they use battler + warguard, and to be honest if the vamp gets fumble/evade/parry up you won't be doiing much damage in melee (not that minsterals ever did), and your DDs will be your main damage source.

I suggest kiting the vamp, or if you can be bothered try a buffed pet.

well i barely ever use Fumble in a 1vs1, i consider my 40%evade - 11%parry as enough defence tbh
and idd. a high rr infil with heaters can take you down quite well tbh..
and about battler/warguard.
i once beat an mincer (lord) who used both those abilities/charges. and still survived.

altho i dont think it was the original owner. as he didnt start off good tbh.

 

[liloe]

tbh, Vamps are easily killed by most shield classes.

 

[censi]

vamp is situationally OP along with all the other classes in daoc.

 

[Nephilia]

I have a fucking helluva hard time killing anything on my vamp :x

not my lvl 47 supp specced SM, unbuffed and in rogs

 

[Airwalker]

cuz you suck XD

well you land PA CD SS, hamstering pluss the follow ups, and they keep healing themself, suddenly they start to use the claw thing.
ofc I've killed one before sometimes, but some of them are just so hard on rr2 and upwards, the brehons ones goes down like a good dinner in vasudheim, but when it comes to the rr2-5 ones, dude they are so hard.

 

[Devilseye]

Love yoo too mate! ._.



:wub:



Usually if someone lands PA chain on me im dead :<

if heaters.. then i agree
but normaly i run with my finger on top of the charge2 button..

soo.. PA.. Charge... Target too far away! (ie missed CD)

works like a charm
But like almostninni (or what ever)

heaters/sun weapons.. im dead ;p

 

[Mirt]

"well i barely ever use Fumble in a 1vs1, i consider my 40%evade - 11%parry as enough defence tbh"

Depending on what I'm fighting, I use fumble every time I can (since it can be purged), fumble has won me a LOT of fights.

"tbh, Vamps are easily killed by most shield classes."

Shield tanks are among the hardest opponants but they are killable as a vamp, although I'm rr8 so I have a lot of toys - I suspect a rr2 vamp would be dead meat.

 

[Spamb0t]

ofc I've killed one before sometimes, but some of them are just so hard on rr2 and upwards, the brehons ones goes down like a good dinner in vasudheim, but when it comes to the rr2-5 ones, dude they are so hard.

..... what?
ur saying rr3's goes down easy, but the rr2 rr4 rr5 doesnt?

 

[Infanity]

if heaters.. then i agree
but normaly i run with my finger on top of the charge2 button..

soo.. PA.. Charge... Target too far away! (ie missed CD)

works like a charm
But like almostninni (or what ever)

heaters/sun weapons.. im dead ;p

If you hit charge, Even if they land cd = No stun :>

 

[theslayeruk]

Key to killing a vampiir is by removing/reducing its power gain from melee.

 

[Devilseye]

If you hit charge, Even if they land cd = No stun :>

well CD+SS = almost same amount of dmg as the PA it self.
thats why

not just to avoid getting stunned
--
and Maji. how you gonna do that?
battlemaster for example. spam power leak..
worst case.. paladin spamming it..
soo.. you start with 14% power..
paladin: powerleak.
vamp: oop
paladin power leaks again. still oop
vamp: hits.. and casts fumble
paladin: powerleaked again. nerfing power to 0%, but vamp was already casting. so it lands (or resists if your having bad luck)
Vamp hits..
paladin fumbles
vamp hits.. with eyeshot.. vamp casts 40% evade
paladin hits with powerleak.
vamp oop..
vamp hits.. casts 11% parry..
Paladin hits again
vamps attack got blocked (paiiinnn)
paladin fumbles...
vamp hits... + eyeshot..
gets 30% wsbuff up..

get the idea?

not saying that the paladin gets owned..
but i do say that powerleak spammage doesnt help that much =]
also.. most times i have evade/wsbuff up before being in dd/debuffed/what ever range (sets you in combat.. ie cant powertab)
insta 1800range powerbolt ftw =]

 

[xGenocidex]

healing him self in combat, DD's in combat, hit's fucking hard. why?

it's a cp class no doubt

mincers piss on vamps... armsmen piss on vamps.... skalds piss on vamps... zerkers piss on vamps... sms piss on vamps.... christ even thanes piss on vamps ;x hammer > vamps.. FZ > vamps anything dual wields and plays well > vamps

 

[Cenedra]

Pii-Squared is my vamp
and to kill me all ya gotta do is stunn me

 

[Puppet]

unless ur Buffy the Vampire-slayer, who says you need a chance to kill a Vamp?

 

[Mirt]

"mincers piss on vamps... armsmen piss on vamps.... skalds piss on vamps... zerkers piss on vamps... sms piss on vamps.... christ even thanes piss on vamps ;x hammer > vamps.. FZ > vamps anything dual wields and plays well > vamps "

Odd I regard minsterals as an easy kill, same with skalds.

I'm about 50:50 with zerkers, they can do an awful lot of damage with battler / vando / banespike, but 40% evade + fumble + ml4 + ml9 helps out there, as does SoM and AF charges.

Thanes have energy DDs, most hibs don't SC energy so there you go..

And as for armsmen, well I've killed kagato on a couple of occasions (he was full health etc), and many lower rr armsmen. Not saying it was an easy fight, but blanket statements that 3/4 of solo classes "piss on vamps" is wrong.

I think the real reason is that most vamps have rubbish specs (it's funny that people think SM is good for anything other than after fight recovery and you can get first aid for that).

 

[Panzer]

Whats a "good" vamp spec then ?

still undecided on my final spec atm ..

 

[Meski]

48 Ve 13 Sm

 

[Aran Thule]

Main problem i have is shield tanks, got several tricks but they need power, once out of power im struggling.
Feel sorry for the RR2 SB's that attacked me without having any heat resists.

 

[Tallen]

Main problem i have is shield tanks, got several tricks but they need power, once out of power im struggling.
Feel sorry for the RR2 SB's that attacked me without having any heat resists.

No heat resists on a SB is asking for a spanking.

 

[Ivynoxia]

unless ur Buffy the Vampire-slayer, who says you need a chance to kill a Vamp?

I approve

<-- btvs fan

 

[liloe]

I approve

<-- btvs fan

Never seen it, but Dawn is cool tbh =)

hm, maybe I should watch a few episodes =)

 

[anioal]

oh, ye... vamps are so overpowered that there are barely 10 rr6+ vamps on cluster atm.

now, don't get me wrong, a vamp is a solid class but pretty far from being OP

and mirt, you shouldn't take part into this discussion... a top player can make any class look overpowered :worthy: