Who did you vote for?

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Cheap excuse for a topic, but hey i'm cheap (waits for insults)

Who did you vote for?
 

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I voted Lib Dem across the board. Have been known to vote Lib and Lab in the past, no hesitation this time.
 

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Haven't voted yet, but it will be labour.

As i mentioned before, it's the best of a bad bunch (for me). I can't have the tories in for clearly obvious reasons and the fact that Howard comes across as a desperate sleazeball. Blair is a liar - no doubt (aren't all politicians), but you get a real sense that he truly believes in what he stands for and is a passionate man. Lib dem, i'd rather choke on my own cock than vote them in; i suspect that they'll find their ideas unworkable if they get into power which was .... 1908 the last time that happened. A lot has changed.

My 2p.
 

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Big G said:
Haven't voted yet, but it will be labour.

As i mentioned before, it's the best of a bad bunch (for me). I can't have the tories in for clearly obvious reasons and the fact that Howard comes across as a desperate sleazeball. Blair is a liar - no doubt (aren't all politicians), but you get a real sense that he truly believes in what he stands for and is a passionate man. Lib dem, i'd rather choke on my own cock than vote them in; i suspect that they'll find their ideas unworkable if they get into power which was .... 1908 the last time that happened. A lot has changed.

My 2p.

Agreed. I hate the Nanny state thing, but at the end of the day it still hadto be labour.
 

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What Big G said, however, I voted Lib ^^
 

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I voted Tory, becuase I really dont agree with any of them, but I'd rather not see a labour landslide.
 

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None of them were worth the hassle of voting for.
 

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I voted conservative, I hope labour win the election so we can see how they try to worm thier way out of taking the blame for fucking up this country.
 

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I'm intrigued - how have they fucked it up?
 

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absolutely no one as my company decided at the last minute i really needed to be working in a datacenter in suburban Toronto for most of the next 2 months not leaving me enough time to set up a postal or proxy vote.

mothfskers that they are.

Even the 100mb pipe i'm plugged into doesn't make up for it much although it's fun seeing 1.6mb/s downloads and more.
 

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JBP| said:
I voted conservative, I hope labour win the election so we can see how they try to worm thier way out of taking the blame for fucking up this country.

Fucking up this country ?? Sorry, but under the Tories I was out of work twice. We had two Major recessions. The miners strike. The poll tax riots. The Brixton riots. Loads more.
Like I say , I hate the nanny state bs the are forceing on me, but on consideration, as an example, id rather have no shooting and speed cameras, and a job, than the freedom to shoot more and no job.
 

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I voted Labour...for reasons as given by Throd.

Also I believe Labour can manage the economy far better than the other parties could.
 

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No shootings? Fire arms offences rose by 98% within 5 years from 1998, and have yet to actually drop for a single year that Labour have been in power.
 

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Home Office figures show that, in England and Wales, there were nearly 25,000 firearm offences in 2003/2004, compared with less than 15,000 in 1998/1999.

In 2002/2003, there were 81 firearm fatalities compared with 49 in 1998/1999 - in 2001/2002 there were 97.

Not to nit pick but technically a firearm offence doesn't require you being shot :D
 

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JBP| said:
I voted conservative, I hope labour win the election so we can see how they try to worm thier way out of taking the blame for fucking up this country.

On a similar line here. I voted Conservative (after being staunch Labour up to a few years ago..) but suspect it's better for Labour to win this one... They were handed a wonderful economy in 1997 that they've, somehow, butchered (gleefully). If the Conservative's did win they'd be handed the tragic one we have now and in 4 years be quickly voted out - no doubt to some catchy slogans. Better Labour win so the public at large can see what a shambles the economy is, paving the way for the Conservatives in 4/5 years time.
 

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throdgrain said:
Fucking up this country ?? Sorry, but under the Tories I was out of work twice. We had two Major recessions. The miners strike. The poll tax riots. The Brixton riots. Loads more.
Like I say , I hate the nanny state bs the are forceing on me, but on consideration, as an example, id rather have no shooting and speed cameras, and a job, than the freedom to shoot more and no job.

I've been unemployed twice under Labour. Under Labour we've also had the Iraq war, numerous riots around the country (Bradford anyone?), the country's largest car manufacturer has gone bust, petrol and fags have reached frankly ridiculous prices, you're made to feel like a criminal for driving a few mph above the limit, etc etc. Oh and the Queen Mum died. The country is considerably more fucked than it was when they took charge. I mean I didn't vote Tory this time round cos I trust Michael Howard even less than I trust Tony Blair. Instead I voted to let a pisshead Scot run the country. Trust me folks, we know where it's at.
 

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Bodhi said:
I voted Lib Dem</paraphrase>

Good God. I mean, christ - we've agreed on things before, but nothing significant. I'm actually a little freaked out right now - I was almost certain you'd be voting tory.
 

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Almost forgot. I voted for the Lib Dems.

Have to say it worries me that people are on TV saying "I voted for A because if I voted for B, like I wanted to, C might win". I really wonder if it would still be a "two party" system if people didn't think like twats?
 

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Embattle said:
Not to nit pick but technically a firearm offence doesn't require you being shot :D

Yes, but its shockingly difficult to get shot with a broken bottle or a knuckleduster.

Ergo, fire arm offences go up, so do attacks commited with them. Was just easier to get that evidence then add up murders, attempted murders, and so on.
 

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nath said:
Good God. I mean, christ - we've agreed on things before, but nothing significant. I'm actually a little freaked out right now - I was almost certain you'd be voting tory.

Like I'd ever vote Tory. The Tories are the class B party!
 

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Besides, everyone knows the only reason that Labour called an early vote is because they know the shit is going to have to hit the fan soon, raised taxes, the building of a new nuclear power station, a new Labour leader, and so on with more very unpopular developments. If they'd have waited another year, everyone that took to the streets screaming NOT IN MY NAME would have forgotten, instead of the 90% that were so angry they could poo blood but are still voting Labour now. It would have made a lot more sense for them to wait IF there wasn't impending unpleasantness.
 

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Gun crime and shootings are at an all time high (excepting war years :p). Have you been to Nottingham ? There's definately a big tax hike on the horizon. Mr Brown's figures aren't going to stack this time round. Probably Council-Tax re-evaluations all round. My council were very cagey about that subject when I asked if I could get downgraded now that the local old-folks home was going to get converted to a loony-bin without more than a quick nod and a wink.

I spoiled my ballot cos I still daren't vote Tory and there wasn't a UKIP candidate on the list :/
 

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Damini said:
No shootings? Fire arms offences rose by 98% within 5 years from 1998, and have yet to actually drop for a single year that Labour have been in power.


This is an absolutely meaningless statistic. Its the kind of answer you'd expect to hear from a Tory candidate! It explains nothing of the detail...no source...infact, wheres your source? I would actually like to know how this works.

I'm leaning toward the opinion that gun crime, violent crime etc r is no direct fault of one single party...they're all to blame(or, both) this kind of shit is ingrained in society and will only get worse unless radical changes are made. Only, I don't know what radical changes to suggest, yet. Er, ok: Socialism.
 

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Well for example:

100 firearms offences per year before 1998.

Now we have 198 per year.

That = 98% rise.

:)

Complete and total bollocks in my opinion. There is no way you can blame 1 single party for this particular problem. I don't see labour putting guns in people's hands. In fact I see the opposite.

I didn't vote this time because I am completely apathetic now. I don't believe in any of the 3 major runners and I won't be living in this area anymore so I don't particularly care who the local MP will be.
 

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Clearly plenty of people so far are not voting for labour, Lib dem up and a marginal seat has gone to the Tories - not looking good for Labour.

However, if Labour do get it; clearly Blair will have to go, the votes are showing the disgust with the Labour party i feel.

Turnout was also shite.
 

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maxi said:
This is an absolutely meaningless statistic. Its the kind of answer you'd expect to hear from a Tory candidate! It explains nothing of the detail...no source...infact, wheres your source? I would actually like to know how this works.

I'm leaning toward the opinion that gun crime, violent crime etc r is no direct fault of one single party...they're all to blame(or, both) this kind of shit is ingrained in society and will only get worse unless radical changes are made. Only, I don't know what radical changes to suggest, yet. Er, ok: Socialism.

My source was the home office website for the statistics. And you don't think a higher prevelence of guns and gun crimes is associated with a higher prevelence of shootings? Fine, if not, then you can research and show me that shootings are inversely proportional to the amount of gun crimes.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hosb0205.pdf
 

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I'm not blaming one particular party for the problem, I was just challenging Throddy's belief that voting Labout meant speed cameras and not getting shot. However, I do believe that one single political party or movement can have an effect on gun crime, violence, and murders. Anyone that doesn't should look at the crime rates in New York after Mayor Giuliani implemented a zero tolerance policy.
 

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Damini said:
My source was the home office website for the statistics. And you don't think a higher prevelence of guns and gun crimes is associated with a higher prevelence of shootings? Fine, if not, then you can research and show me that shootings are inversely proportional to the amount of gun crimes.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hosb0205.pdf

Inversely proportional would be just silly. :p

New Labour would just say the stats are good, and it's due to an increase in Police Officers or their anti-terrorism laws ... they've "clamped down on crime" (*shudder*).
 

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