Where is the support?

[famiron]

Just logged off after 45mins or more of standing in CS with 1.5 groups of albs asking over & over each new set of porters for help to retake beno.

We had attempted it with 1.5 groups but were beaten down by lvl 10 red/purp gaurds althouhg we did get 1st door 20% we needed at least another fg to deal with gaurds.

We saw 6 or 7 ports of albs out of which 3 people eventually came forwar to help but that simply wasnt enough.

Why do you albs not bother helping your own team (realm)?

Are we not supposed to be working together ?

Arent the keeps in our own realm the key to DF ?

Why do you shout abuse at people asking for your help?

why do you repeatedly port off to join a zerg which then jsut gets zerged when you could help your own people for just 20mins ?

about 15 people wasted over 40mins of their time tonight becasue of this selfish albion attitude and i would like to see more help given to our keep takers,

It takes time and effort to try to organise the least you could do is help.

Im sickened, the more people this happens to the less people will stay in albion i fear so can you stop your selfishness and begin to help plz.

thx in advance i hope things improve

fami

 

[Exinferis]

<sarcasm mode on>
but.... but.... i dont wanna loose those 100rp
<sarcasm mode off>

its a shame that alb doesnt want DF :/
seems like it anyway

 

[adari]

ok


i got the feeling most of thsi is aimed at people like me, as i was stupid enuff to respond to ur /yelling at sauvage

so i ll just comment it

Just logged off after 45mins or more of standing in CS with 1.5 groups of albs asking over & over each new set of porters for help to retake beno.

ok, lesson 1; sometimes people want to hepl, sometimes they dont feel like it, do you mind? asking over n over and over again does no good

We had attempted it with 1.5 groups but were beaten down by lvl 10 red/purp gaurds althouhg we did get 1st door 20% we needed at least another fg to deal with gaurds.

what did you expect?

We saw 6 or 7 ports of albs out of which 3 people eventually came forwar to help but that simply wasnt enough.

people needed help in odin killing mids n 5 fg hibs, ur not the only one in the only realm who needs help ok bai

Why do you albs not bother helping your own team (realm)?

we were helping our realm by keeling invaders

Are we not supposed to be working together ?

we were working togetgher, just not in alb frontier, as odins was muchos more important than a keep

Arent the keeps in our own realm the key to DF ?

yea /clap

Why do you shout abuse at people asking for your help?

dont whine, i saw u yelling to f**k off to zerging so dont sya that

why do you repeatedly port off to join a zerg which then jsut gets zerged when you could help your own people for just 20mins ?

because some of like to do that, and if you would ask more nicer than HELP NEEDED AT BENO FFS we would have considered it, and it takes organization and rams etc. if you wanna do it in 20 mins... you lacked both

about 15 people wasted over 40mins of their time tonight becasue of this selfish albion attitude and i would like to see more help given to our keep takers,

why did you even try with 15 people?

It takes time and effort to try to organise the least you could do is help.

organizing = not yelling at sauvage for an hour to come to beno

Im sickened, the more people this happens to the less people will stay in albion i fear so can you stop your selfishness and begin to help plz.

you stop your selfishness and think about how other want to enjoy this game

thx in advance i hope things improve

only thin i agree with

 

[Drclink]

well i see your points, but the retaking of benowyc with the 1.5 fgs was all that was left after a whole evening spent in hadrians wall,which resulted in us losing benowyc sursbrook and erasleigh.

Sursbrooke and erasleigh we got back but benowyc we couldnt cause it had quickly been upgraded to level 10 we died and tried to get help in cs. we picked up some rams and went back after we got no help and died again.

The messages that where being typed in castle sauvage where more out of frustrations that as you werent there couldnt understand im sure.

at the peak of rvr in odins when my guild lost benwoyc there was 43 mids attacking it.

Also killing mids in odins doesnt make them invaders cause you are invading there lands.Invaders constitute of 43 mids in hadrians wall taking our keeps of which support to stop and retake was asked for firstly and perhaps unduly made after.

I can fully appreciate that our frontier is not a great rvr one and that with no relics perhaps people consider why bother defending it. But this was the primary reason we saw our keeps and relics get lost in the first place.

I for one am fed up with the state of albion and some of its players, they flame people who fail on relic attempts they flame them for not trying.

i hope things improve,ive been around this game sometime now and there seems to be a lot of chiefs now and to few indians lets try protecting out homelands as a matter of course and kill hibs/mids later cause then when one day perhaps we do actually manage to get relics back we may then be able to hold onto them for more than oneday.

 

[Arnor]

we were helping our realm by keeling invaders

not to rain on your parade, but invaders is when hibs/mids are in albion

 

[K0nah]

your asking in the wrong place.

ppl on the pad are porting to have some fun, bashing on keep doors is not fun.

if they want to farm in df they will help u, if they dont they wont.

our keeps mean absolutely nothing (since we have no relics) to us atm except access to DF.

YOU wanted to retake beno so YOU could farm/xp in DF fine, ask in your guild channels and get your ppl that way. dont try and shame ppl who are heading to rvr to help u out.

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by adari


we were working togetgher, just not in alb frontier, as odins was muchos more important than a keep

Of course, bcos u wouldn't get any rps taking back a keep in your own frontier.

 

[old.FIN]

same old story.....never it will not change, get used to it.

and konah, its same stuff if we have relics, u have seen it, and so has a lot of others, so dont mention relics in same sentence with keep retake.


if we get some relics back, it will be ok defence for 2 weeks, then it goes to same, always been so, always will be so.

get used to it.

i dont give a poop if enemy has our keep, relics or not.
retaking 3-4 keeps everyday 5 weeks in a row will not make a change to albions way to think of realm defence, its 1% and will be always 1%

 

[brommix]

i generally do agree with you famiron....sad that so many dont want to do the "hard" stuff but only the easy stuff.

 

[old.LandShark]

Yeah. Konah, that is sadly BS and you know it, because no-one gave a fuck when midgard had all our keeps at bedtime, they just ported again and again to Emain then eventually went to bed, waking up to find a distinct lack of relics.

 

[Drclink]

I find it somewhat odd that both the "RVR guilds" replies albeit made by individuals and not the whole guild basically flame the idea of retaking our keeps.

I would of thought these so called rvr guilds who where formed on guidelines that state they will defend our realm and have drawn the majority of clerics and minstrels from other guilds into there own for the purpose of forming balanced rvr groups would of been the first to responds to a call to help in our frontier.

I tbh have never had any problems with FC or Strife infact i know people in both guilds and have always had fun when grouped.

I just find it odd that the replies made negative are from people of these guild who are obviously more concerned in the instance of replys made to own mids/hibs in there own lands opposed to ours.

The 1% of albions who where in ou frontier where not only jovial but trying there best and despite a slowing of action fun was had.
I for one would rather enjoy my time than run around getting mezzed or ganking odd mids/hibs.The days of 1fg v 1fg seem long gone and as such is a shame,we face in normal rvr a shortage of clerics mezzers and minstrels....and before anyone pops up and says well go make one read my signature first.

 

[gunner440]

rofl albion is destined to neva have any relics... ever


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so what?

 

[old.Prof]

What Konah said :

DAoC = Game = Fun

If I had to act like certain ppl on this thread I would be forced doing boring keep takes "for Albions Glory" half of my time, and frankly if that was the case I would have been burned out of RvR and DAoC very quickly and been playing a different game.

Yup, that would be one cleric less on this server

 

[hercules-df]

Was kinda sad to see such a small turnout of people willing to help, not surprising tho.

Maybe many albs have lost the will to RVR being the only realm without an "insta win button" Constatnly going to emain killing 1 celt then being zerged by a bigger zerg is about the only way we get rps these days.

Comon mythic sort it out, maybe get rid of most of pallys useless chants and make us unmezzable, what good are a few teeny self buffs.dmg adds.teeny heal when ur being nuked for 600 dmg by 5 pbaoers at a time, or how about an insta aoe mezz "word of god" or something. If not us, poor old armsmen, is there a worse class in the game for rvr? give any a;b class insta fucking something mythic! it cant go on like this........ WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!.. SAVE US JEBUS!

Albs do bitch about rezzing better than any other realm tho, the torrent of abuse you will get for rezzing someone at a corpse summoner is quite outstanding, and highly amusing when it happens in the middle of a big fight or out in the open, example:

You appear to have a few seconds free time in mid battle lots of dead from both realms lay on the ground. You leave the side of the caster you are protecting, You turn off end chant sit down to get slightly more mana back, hoping not to be ganked by a stealther, so you can rez a fallen comrade, you Rez xxxxx, then return to battle, suddenly a PM appears.

"Feck off ghetto rezz, u 'tard go back to playing teh CS!!! noob!"

I suppose clerics are supposed to waste half their mana bars on full rezzes instead of healing their group, fair enough

I wonder if such problems appear in hib or mid. Id like for swap realms for a day just to see what its like in RVR with a seemingly organised realm.

Maybe each realm has its own bunch of twats but albs bunch is a bigger zerg of them

For all the rez bitches, shouldent you be out protesting the war or something?

 

[Khalen]

Where were the people when I was defending this realm for last half year?

At one point I got tired and quitted the defending. People have an attitude toward helping others. Nowadays I see people even moan about giving 1 G to someone who just bought the game... It's really sad... (and this goes for all the realms to be honest...)

And then they all say we do it for the fun? Well are you really doing it for the fun? Seems more like everyone wanna be nr 1 and tell PWNED to anyone...

There is no love in this game... only hatred...

 

[Ekydus]

I'd have to disagree with you there...
My time on DAoC has been mostly enjoyable, PvE and PvP.
For example... When I was about lvl 20 I flagged a 30 something Paladin to come rezz me, and he did without delay...
I am some what like this...
I rezz without being asked...
Try to help lowbies (10g better than 1g ).
Items that don't mean much to us will be gratefully accepted by the lower ones too.
Either I'm a rarity in your eyes or I am missing something...
But I know for sure there are many appreciative Albs out there.

However I do see your point in RvR Rezzing at the summoner only leads to Clerics bad-mouthing you.
To be honest, when I'm dead I'm just glad I get rezzed fullstop.

 

[mirak_naijmi]

To answer youre question hercules:

There are idiots in all realms offcourse. You cant get rid of 14 year olds thinking they are the king cause they have been zerging for 12 hours each day in 5 months and accidently got rps for it and got rr6...They will always think they are uber, and also...they will think they know how everything should be done. And these guyz exist in every realm and every guild!

Althou, in midgard we have alot better defense activity than in albion. Everytime a keep is attacked those who are nearby and sometimes even those in emain go there as fast as they can. Its even better now since we have so many relics to defend, but it was great before to. But this is also since odins is great RvR, but great RvR doesnt come by itself. You need to make it great, i remember about 2 months ago there was seldom much action in odins. But then for some reason mids started going there and starting fights with the few invaders there was. And if its a good fight it attracts ppl from both sides. Eventually odins was a zerg area. Nowadays i can find fgs there at 4 in the morning and at primetime there is even zergs there! Its still not emain but there is always about 2fg mids in odins, which helps alot when a keep is attacked.

And then getting people to help is always a problem, but in mid we mostly get enough people to atleast retake keeps in our own realm.

What is frightening is that if i just want DF and arranges a keep take, i mostly say go alb...since i know some keeps are even unclaimed there and very seldom we get any good resistance from albs when we take keeps.

 

[Ocond]

Famiron, I bloody agree mate, takes me back when I used to bother doing keep raids, now I hardly play constructively cos I think the game has had its day.

Good people make the game what it is. Unfortunately most have left already

Wake up!!! , if were gonna be zombies lets be zombies that help one another.

 

[Piojo]

When I started a alt on excal alb every person I met or spoke to was very helpfull and one dood gave me 5g, one other also told me to add him to my friends list so I could contact him if I ever need help with anything. So not everyone is bad

 

[Adralend]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Yeah. Konah, that is sadly BS and you know it, because no-one gave a fuck when midgard had all our keeps at bedtime, they just ported again and again to Emain then eventually went to bed, waking up to find a distinct lack of relics.

Yeah 100rps for 3hours farming > Relics

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by Drclink
I would of thought these so called rvr guilds who where formed on guidelines that state they will defend our realm and have drawn the majority of clerics and minstrels from other guilds into there own for the purpose of forming balanced rvr groups would of been the first to responds to a call to help in our frontier.

I cannot comment for FC, as they are not in the alliance with HB, but Strife does help to retake keeps, along with HB.
Not sure if you expect us to do this every day, 24/7. If HB was out in Odins having fun against Mids and Hibs, tough luck.
Regards, Glottis

 

[old.shotgunstow]

Originally posted by Drclink
I find it somewhat odd that both the "RVR guilds" replies albeit made by individuals and not the whole guild basically flame the idea of retaking our keeps.

I would of thought these so called rvr guilds who where formed on guidelines that state they will defend our realm and have drawn the majority of clerics and minstrels from other guilds into there own for the purpose of forming balanced rvr groups would of been the first to responds to a call to help in our frontier.

I tbh have never had any problems with FC or Strife infact i know people in both guilds and have always had fun when grouped.

I just find it odd that the replies made negative are from people of these guild who are obviously more concerned in the instance of replys made to own mids/hibs in there own lands opposed to ours.

The 1% of albions who where in ou frontier where not only jovial but trying there best and despite a slowing of action fun was had.
I for one would rather enjoy my time than run around getting mezzed or ganking odd mids/hibs.The days of 1fg v 1fg seem long gone and as such is a shame,we face in normal rvr a shortage of clerics mezzers and minstrels....and before anyone pops up and says well go make one read my signature first.

RvR does not involve keep taking in their opinion obviously. RvR involves getting RP, nothing else. On this point I think that the "RvR-only" guilds need to think about where their priorities lie. They have no shortage of organisational skill, so why not take charge of keeping alb keeps belonging to alb - I mean if you get out into our frontier as soon as/soon after the keeps have been lost or even (heaven forbid) as they are being taken (if you have one claimed you should know) then you will get RPs from re-taking the keeps that way, like mids tend to when we get a CS. I don't know how many people I ressed at 'Bloody Nottmoor' but as I got 15% RPs every res (or whatever it is for a full-heal res) and I got shitloads, I don't want to know how many you all gave away to mids on that day.

Originally posted by gunZ-
rofl albion is destined to neva have any relics... ever


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so what?

Quite.

 

[greenfingers]

support, what ...? .. huh, where did they go ?


damn those smileys !!!

 

[Genesis_of_Ak]

Albs don't support each other properly at group level, whether it be RVR or PVE. Is it any surprise that, therefore, that we can't operate together for the realm when it counts ?

 

[oldgit]

before you flamed on here did you flame on your own /as
or are you a loner.
If you need to keep retake.
Step one ask your guildmates
step two ask your alliance
if them two dont help you, log off and leave the other guilds that might have arranged a rvr day in emain/oddins alone.
IDIOT

 

[Karnage]

Couldn't agree more with you Famiron.

Albion's attitude towards its own realm is quite frankly pathetic.

Until Albion wakes up to looking over it's own realm, we're just gonna get laughed at by Hib and Mid.

Example with the loss of our 3 relics.

I messaged members of FC, GoL, HB and every other guild I could think of.

Response I got was encouraging, them saying "SH*T! OOW!"

So what happens?

Within 30 mins, there was a total of..... 3 FG albs at CS... /who emain = 23, /who odins = 1X

I'm getting very close to changing server, I thought joining the stealth zerg would be fun.. its OK in the BGs, but I can forsee real problems in full RvR

WAKE UP ALBION!

Your fronteir does not involve Emain and Odins