When did scouts get vanish? :D

Brevis

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Heres the thing, yesterday at a towersiege, me and several other hunters were shooting at scouts. We could hit them once or twice and then they got shield out and backed away, blocking arrows....

The weird part was that even though they had just blocked an arrow they could restealth. The usual stealthtimer is 10 secs i think and I have a 2sec drawtime so I cant really get it to add up...?

On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.
 

Thorwyn

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On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.

That´s because they ate the yellow snow outside your house. ;)

Seriously.. this kind of behaivour isn´t new. Apparently it´s just some kind of "I wtfpwn"-ego-boosting thing.
 

zx^

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I noticed that alot to Brevis ..

block, evade, miss on a scout dont count as an attack .. so u can stealth after the first arrow who hitted u


Rude usually being spammed when guys stealthzerg.. i know thats the only time i spam rude
 

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Brevis said:
Heres the thing, yesterday at a towersiege, me and several other hunters were shooting at scouts. We could hit them once or twice and then they got shield out and backed away, blocking arrows....

The weird part was that even though they had just blocked an arrow they could restealth. The usual stealthtimer is 10 secs i think and I have a 2sec drawtime so I cant really get it to add up...?

10 secs after finishing combat yeah.

Remember u tried to kick the infiltrator out of stealth; but he evaded and kept stealthed? Same thing..

Misses/blocks/evades dont put you in combat; and therefore dont reset stealth-timer.. It also allows the scout to use First Aid if he's blocking the arrows.
 

Votan

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Brevis said:
On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.

Only one thing can be said about it: its childish, rude and utterly lame behaviour. Its not something inherent to albs though as i've been on the recieving end as well from other realms.
 

Dafft

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Then mids reply with Laugh/Rude/slap when 3/4 of them are standing over your dead body
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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Brevis said:
On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.

Because we hate you and you're all tossers - why do you think we hit mid so much? Payback dear boy.
 

Alithiel

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Marczje said:
Reroll scouts all tbh
:confused:

Are you saying you want everyone in Alb to reroll as a scout, or that you want all scouts to reroll a different class?
 

[NO]Magmatic

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Tbh, if anything I have a feeling somethings wrong with the restealth timer... I've had it a couple of times when I was playing a RM that a scout would stealth within 10s after I hit him with a nuke...
 

Dorin

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Smilewhenyousaythat said:
Because we hate you and you're all tossers - why do you think we ZERG mid so much? Payback dear boy.

seek a doctor fast oO and old news. you did that preNF anyways xD
 

liloe

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Well /rude sux, but I won't cry if someone does it to me, I mean, everyone is free to emote what he wants.

The thing with the immunity timer sux though imho :/

Btw, if people all want to reroll scouts, why not. Already now it's very easy to take out even a larger group of enemies cause nobody wants to play healer chars anymore so if you get the jump, you can kill quite a lot. Imho the game has reached a very sad state for some classes, because they're not fun to play anymore. I mean it used to be much more fun as druid/healer to run around, cause spreading on a FoP inside a keep is not really what I expected to do when I rolled my chars and I'm starting to think about playing my ranger more tbh :/
 

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Spamming rude is prob down to the other person being a childish retard or you annoyed them somehow. :)

Have a perfect example from few days ago, 3-4 sb attack me, I /rude once and sat down, they spam the /rude back after I die. Obivously annoyed with me not giving them the fun of a fight I guess.
 

Danya

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Only had /laugh /rude etc. once, was from an alb after 2 fg ran over me solo. Skillz. :p
 

Nemo

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Puppet said:
Brevis said:
Remember u tried to kick the infiltrator out of stealth; but he evaded and kept stealthed? Same thing..

Misses/blocks/evades dont put you in combat; and therefore dont reset stealth-timer.. It also allows the scout to use First Aid if he's blocking the arrows.

evade=you/your equipment are not in fight......
block=you/your equipment are in fight (enemy touch you)

and a question for scouts:
Dont you think that scouts/rangers/hunters should have same range?
(and please, honest/adult answers only!!!)
 

Methos

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Brevis said:
Heres the thing, yesterday at a towersiege, me and several other hunters were shooting at scouts. We could hit them once or twice and then they got shield out and backed away, blocking arrows....

The weird part was that even though they had just blocked an arrow they could restealth. The usual stealthtimer is 10 secs i think and I have a 2sec drawtime so I cant really get it to add up...?

On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.
Hiya Brevis! The reason they can stealth is the following:

It's partly lag and partly the fact that while you're stealthed missed attacks won't unstealth you.

While your arrow is 'in the air' they can restealth, due to lag your arrow will arrive (for example) 1 sec later. in that time they have restealthed, but due to lag you will see them disappear 1 sec later. On their screen it will show you hit them *after* they stealthed. But on your screen it will appear as though he stealthed after you hit him.

Oh and i never /rude unless i have a REAL good reason to do so ;).
 

Edaemos

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Nemo said:
and a question for scouts:
Dont you think that scouts/rangers/hunters should have same range?
(and please, honest/adult answers only!!!)

No, all archers have differences like rangers/hunters had access to AP for 2 years when scouts didn't, i didn't see hunters/rangers saying that scouts should have ap *shrugs*.

Give rangers scout range? so they will then have the join best range and the best melee also? dont think so, same with hunters, they have great melee also.

Scouts melee is poor in comparison to hunters/rangers, which is why you find more scouts with higher specced bow than rangers/hunters. When they give scouts melee damage comparable to hunters/rangers i wont have any problem making all archer range equal.
 

Gold

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Edaemos said:
No, all archers have differences like rangers/hunters had access to AP for 2 years when scouts didn't, i didn't see hunters/rangers saying that scouts should have ap *shrugs*.

Give rangers scout range? so they will then have the join best range and the best melee also? dont think so, same with hunters, they have great melee also.

Scouts melee is poor in comparison to hunters/rangers, which is why you find more scouts with higher specced bow than rangers/hunters. When they give scouts melee damage comparable to hunters/rangers i wont have any problem making all archer range equal.

<- wants shield
 

Lothandar

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
Apparently it´s just some kind of "I wtfpwn"-ego-boosting thing.

I rude every alb stealther class I kill, and I add /laugh on top of that when the case is "scoutlings".

/Rude, /laugh then /dismiss, not ego-boosting, it's more of "I don't respect your 'ololol I shoot at you from 22489184 range and mess up your fights' mentality at all"





































Fine, I admit, it is flamebaiting for a whine thread about me ;<
 

Lothandar

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Votan said:
Only one thing can be said about it: its childish, rude and utterly lame behaviour. Its not something inherent to albs though as i've been on the recieving end as well from other realms.

So when you are using an emote MYTHIC added to the game, you are childish, rude, and utterly lame, sorry but I miss the part where we should respect our ENEMIES (yes, we are enemies of each other ingame) I am quite sure that /rude was added with the intention of annoying your enemies, while it is used rarely in-realm too, it is more often used in rvr zones. Just shows how good it is working as people are pissed about it, and boy I won't cease using it along with the other 2 grief causing (to touchy people I guess) emotes.

If you don't want people to emote you, /ignore them, yes, it works cross-realm too.

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But anyhow, adding in packs of 6 as scouts on fg vs fg fights along with 2 infils 1 minstrel 1 reaver is perfectly morale and okay? They ruin my fight(s) <--- important bit ;>], therefore that kind of gameplay SHOULD be considered more insultive than emotes, which are implemented to be used. Of course, nothing is done in daoc to prevent this so I don't really mind people doing it. Emotes don't kill me or my group, this does, if you get what I mean.
 

Phule_Gubben

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Edaemos said:
No, all archers have differences like rangers/hunters had access to AP for 2 years when scouts didn't, i didn't see hunters/rangers saying that scouts should have ap *shrugs*.

Give rangers scout range? so they will then have the join best range and the best melee also? dont think so, same with hunters, they have great melee also.

Scouts melee is poor in comparison to hunters/rangers, which is why you find more scouts with higher specced bow than rangers/hunters. When they give scouts melee damage comparable to hunters/rangers i wont have any problem making all archer range equal.

Can we atleast get autotrain Bow then?
 

Rhirap

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pfft they can do what they like to archers now as far as im concerned, they already ruined them for me (and quite a few others i know too) once NF was released in the US and it became all about archers :(
 

Edaemos

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Phule_Gubben said:
Can we atleast get autotrain Bow then?

Yeah that is very lame, hunters should have autotrain like the other archers, and evade 3 also.
 

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Puppet said:
EHHEHE IN JE KONT

xD
euhm, puppet...............je heb niet goed genoeg naar Balkenende geluisterd heh?

NORMEN & WAARDEN mijn jongen daar draait alles om.
Ik zal ook wel zo'n oranje armbandje voor je kopen, want dit is nix,

Oh ja, ik stuur jullie ook wel even naar Dr. Phil :p


xD
 

Antedeluvian

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Brevis said:
me and several other hunters

On a sidenote, why is it that 90% of albs stealthers spam rude at you when they kill you. Its something that seems to have come with NF.

Maybe if you stop going whit SEVERAL OTHER HUNTERS they wont rude spam you, just an idea you know
 

enigma

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I only wude infs that comes and PA's my target after I've slammed someone and I'm about to whip out me bow. :(

Think that's the only time I've ruded someone.. :(
 

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