What Nightshade Spec?

What Spec?


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Aloca

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Help to pick new spec.
Ops accidently made it multi option poll, please just pick 1.
 

Vonwar

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None of the above, as i play in Midgard :) and only there.
 

TriggerHappy

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why so high in env if all classes will be gettin remedy ?,if i were u i would increase ur stealth on the first one,that is unless u are rr8 ?
 

Aloca

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TriggerHappy said:
why so high in env if all classes will be gettin remedy ?,if i were u i would increase ur stealth on the first one,that is unless u are rr8 ?

Yes im RR8
 

Perf

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TriggerHappy said:
why so high in env if all classes will be gettin remedy ?,if i were u i would increase ur stealth on the first one,that is unless u are rr8 ?


How about when he dont fight stealthers? assassins who dont just play stealth wars still need env. i wouldnt drop it less than 47 in totall, weapskill decrease on most weapon users will be a good thing (not that i've had chance to try it. grrrrrrr servers grrrrrr)
 

Ivynoxia

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yeah, if he wants to kill a high defense tank and has time, dot him to death with viper :p
 

Tallen

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Perf said:
How about when he dont fight stealthers? assassins who dont just play stealth wars still need env. i wouldnt drop it less than 47 in totall, weapskill decrease on most weapon users will be a good thing (not that i've had chance to try it. grrrrrrr servers grrrrrr)

Going to be facing a lot of new-age fotm SB's in the coming month, most will be sub rr5 as well and im guessing very few will be speccing high envenom.
 

Punishment

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Dont need envenom ... lol :D

None of the above tbh Aloca , critline has gotten love so id aim towards 51 composite weapon spec with 44 cs and as much cd as possible to increase double hits ...

At rr8 im planning on something like

32 stealth +18
29 env
33 blades +18
44 cs +18
35/36 cd +18 <Depends on autotrain situation , but then again i hear all assasins getting full 90 points or is this a lie ?>

Basically if have your ra's set up for str4 for good baseline damage with 55 odd composite offhand u will hit with offhand 50-60% of the time im guessing and if u spec on top of that mopain4 or so u will get some nice double crits and the added utility of cs styles .

Just my view tbh , hope u find a spec that suits u , but with 350+ str <nice baseline damage for a blades ns> and mopain 4 u WILL hit very hard and crit on a regular basis with both weapons :D
 

Tallen

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Punishment said:
None of the above tbh Aloca , critline has gotten love so id aim towards 51 composite weapon spec with 44 cs and as much cd as possible to increase double hits ...

At rr8 im planning on something like

32 stealth +18
29 env
33 blades +18
44 cs +18
35/36 cd +18 <Depends on autotrain situation , but then again i hear all assasins getting full 90 points or is this a lie ?>

Basically if have your ra's set up for str4 for good baseline damage with 55 odd composite offhand u will hit with offhand 50-60% of the time im guessing and if u spec on top of that mopain4 or so u will get some nice double crits and the added utility of cs styles .

Just my view tbh , hope u find a spec that suits u , but with 350+ str <nice baseline damage for a blades ns> and mopain 4 u WILL hit very hard and crit on a regular basis with both weapons :D

Is shadow strike worth the points?

Using it in leirvik atm and its nice to get past nodes undetected, bit noobish, but still a handy tool.
 

Nix

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Tallen said:
Is shadow strike worth the points?

Using it in leirvik atm and its nice to get past nodes undetected, bit noobish, but still a handy tool.

What does Shadowstrike do?
 

Nix

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Description:
Free to Shadowblade at RR5.

ShadowBlade takes 10 seconds to disappear in the shadows. Once in the shadows the SB will automatically teleport to and perf any enemy they choose within 1000 radius. Can not be used to enter a locked keep or tower.
Per patch 1.76:
- The night-time only restriction from the realm rank 5 ability, Shadowstrike, has been removed.


So this is for all SB/NS/Infs who have 35 stealth now? Sounds nice to me really, although quite situational. 1000 radius... so you can basically jump on walls with it too? :p
 

Ryuno

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Can't jump onto walls with it, can't jump up towers.

Shadowstrike is absolute shit, and i'd never recommend spec'ing for it ever.

Auto train points all the way to 48 = 77
 

Howley

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it can be a bit fun shadowstrike when ur below rr5, but no way should u spec extra stealth just for it ..
fun in DF when them BBs are up there looking all pretty and such

and aloca imo go with jims idea.. 44cs, 32stealth, 29env, and then pick which u want more .. cd/blade/pierce . . . its all down to ur playstyle im afraid and trial and error plays a big part usually

ps. trig... ur a newb :mad: :sex:
 

Punishment

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Spec :

34+17 Blades
34+17 Celtic Dual
44+17 Critical strike
33+17 Envenom
33+17 Stealth

@ RR7

And Spec :

32+19 Blades
32+19 Celtic Dual
50+19 Critical Strike
31+19 Envenom
31+19 Stealth

@ RR9

Imo @ RR8 the best go between is ...

33+18 Blades
35+18 Celtic Dual
44+18 Critical strike
32+18 Envenom
32+18 Stealth

But hey ... thats just me ;)

P.S. And yes ... Trig ... u are a n00b :p
 

anioal

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have you considered this?

32 stealth/envenom/blades/pierce, 21cd and 44 cs (you need full autotrained stealth tho) and use a any mainhand template :>
 

Twinky

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would be nice, tho doing a template to that spec will prolly be expensive..? :)
but high cd is nice vs those that uses wh,ph..
 

Punishment

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anioal said:
have you considered this?

32 stealth/envenom/blades/pierce, 21cd and 44 cs (you need full autotrained stealth tho) and use a any mainhand template :>

Total waste of points ... Malice > all mainhand and cd that low is just really gonna gimp any shade ... there is no excuse to have cd that low above rr7 besides speccing 50 cs :m00:
 

Pio

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Imo just spec envenom for the highest stre/con debuff whats the point with having lifebane (unless u have viper and only rly fight non stealth classes) when assasins have remedy and there aint that many good scouts/hunters around that you can't drop.
 

Punishment

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Pio said:
Imo just spec envenom for the highest stre/con debuff whats the point with having lifebane (unless u have viper and only rly fight non stealth classes) when assasins have remedy and there aint that many good scouts/hunters around that you can't drop.

I run with 47 envenom atm and find it fine ... but rr7+ there is no reason not to have lifebane and every little helps ;)
 

Neffneff

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lifebane+viper is a very VERY usefull tool to be used against ALL classes except rr5+ assasins that hit and have it up in time. it's not worth reasoning that its useless just because assasins rr5 and higher can counter it, you still have archers, tanks and mages as viable targets where it will make a huge difference.
 

Punishment

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Neffneff said:
lifebane+viper is a very VERY usefull tool to be used against ALL classes except rr5+ assasins that hit and have it up in time. it's not worth reasoning that its useless just because assasins rr5 and higher can counter it, you still have archers, tanks and mages as viable targets where it will make a huge difference.

U forgot to mention how Oped the level 48 Disease is against Tanks ^^
 

Pio

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I'd rather have 50 cs and decent cd than lifebane and I wouldn't spec viper anyway so no point
 

Neffneff

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Pio said:
I'd rather have 50 cs and decent cd than lifebane and I wouldn't spec viper anyway so no point
you can have that, AND lifebane, just requires a few RRs, yes @rr1-5 i mysef even had 37 or 47 comp. envenom.
 

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