What is the best RvR Character in Hibernia ?

[old.timbak]

I wanna go play in Hibernia but havent decided on the character.

What do you suppose is the most powerfull RvR character in Hibernia and what race, start stats and template do you advise for the character ?

Thanx in advance for your reaction

 

[old.VooVoo]

Well my answer to that is all of the characters.

To behonest if there was a Best class for RvR then whats the point of the other classes? everyone would just want to be this Best class and it'd lead to a very dull game.

Every class has its advantages and disadvantages both on and off the RvR battle field, it all depends on how you spec your character.

RvR is for everyone and everyclass will have a role in RvR so you'll never get left out.

If you want a tank go be Herp/Champ/Blade
Want to be sneakie got Ranger/Nightshade
Want to stand back and watch the fireworks be Eldritch
Want to be Healer Be a Druid
Want to give everyone Musical help be Bard
Love having a pet? be Enchanter or Druid
Want a Mixed Tank/healer be a Warden.

the list goes on since each class has many skills depending on where you train your points, and even then you can get advice from web-sites and people who are already high in that class you've chosen.

As my personal opinion i'd hate it if there was one Best class, cause then i'd see no point of having the other besides the excuase 'they are there incase you wanted a change' All the classes do have a use on the battlefield, thats the way Mythic designed the game. and its a game and style thats doing well.

Just my 2p worth mate, not sure if it helped

 

[old.Greggor]

It is not a question of the best charater but who is need for the best rvr group

If u want to be able to solo both rvr and xping then play a ranger

Class that are nneed for a rvr group

2 Hero/Champion
2 Warden
1 Druid
1 Bard
2 Casters/Nukers

or

2 Hero/Champion
1 Warden
1 Druid
2 Bard
2 Casters/Nukers

 

[Jonaldo]

Voovoo forgot the awesome uber-mentalist

/em growls at Voovoo

 

[old.EoO_Raphael]

Probably Eldritch, Enchanter and Ranger judgeing from the realm point totals on the US servers. For ranger go lurikeen for eldritch or enchanter it depends. Id say probably luri for eld as you then get faster PBAOE spells (groups will love you for it) and nukes which will be the mainstay of your spells as an eld. For enchanter go elf as when I tried enchanter I found it to be very mana consuming as a solo character. Having extra power will give you a greater chance of keeping your pet alive for pve situations. For pure pvp power the eld is seemingly the better of the two though.

 

[old.VooVoo]

Heh didn't intentionally forget, just didn't want to list every differnent possibilty.

I find it doesn't matter what class you are you'll do fine on the battlefield.

Every trip to the frontier is different, one time you DD spells may work alot better againsta foe than another time you've gone out.

Same with stealth and the ranger or nightshade, you could be out there all day one day and get loads of RP points because your using stealth and hiding well, but you could another day come up against a foe who knows how to detect you.

i think when it comes down to class choosing, i'd rather put it to class you feel would be interesting to play or like. and then you spec accordin to what you want to do. but chances are what ever you spec in for Xp'ing will work for RvR. it all comes down on how you put it to use.

 

[old.Moongoose]

EDIT: WITH REGARDS TO MAGES

Race is not very important. Elfs have a minor advantage at PvE and lurikeens may get targeted slightly less in PvP. The differences are VERY small.

For stats I'd go for 10dex and 10 int. Rest could be either 10 con or 5 more int (if you get targeted you normally die regardless of +-xx hps).

What kills in RvR is DDs in scirmish and PBAOEs in keep atc/def. Pick one as main and the other as sup. The balanced 39/35/x should work well too.

Elds gets bolts in baseline, a nice ae-mezz in the light line and a range debuff. Bolts are nice mage-killers, but otherwise not very usefull. The classic Hib-caster is the void-eld, I think, but I wouldn't recommend that for anyone.

Mentalists gets pow regen, single target mezz and a less usefull humanoid charm. Pow regen is VERY nice and the mezz is handy too at times. You should have a fairly easy time getting groups as a mentalist due to the nice regen stuff in the mana line and the ability to emergency heal.

Enchanters get pets, group speed in the manaline and a attackspeed debuff in the lightline, which is a nice puller in PvE but less usefull in RvR. The pets are nice in PvE but less usefull in RvR. They can be used as distractors or as keep tanks though. Don't spec your enchantment high. Find your optimal template in mana/light and then use the few remaining points in enhance -normally like 12 enhance.


A difficult choice. DDs + stun is amazing when killing anything in the field, but killing 15 enemies banging at a keep door with a few PBAOEs sounds nice too


Moongoose

 

[kr0n]

Bah, Celt ranger. Luri sawks.

 

[old.timbak]

Thanx so far

Thanx so far for your reaction fellow DAOC addicts

 

[old.Halfmad]

If you want to quit DAOC soon go make a ranger, you get nerfed STUPID with realm abilities. Any assassin in the game more or less will be able to see right through your stealth all the time.

Droves of archers on the US servers quitting because of it, they might have more RPs than most but check out the points earned per week.. where are all the archers now? (those lists use to be full of them)

just my advice but make a mage of some kind, if I was just starting DAOC that's what I'd do!

 

[old.Moongoose]

Archers can still be quite powerfull after the nerf. But they'll benefit from using tactics now like grouping. Prepatch most stealthers could move around in the frontiers in god-mode while picking safe targets.
Now they'll benefit from teaming up with others.. Just like everyone else needs to. A couple of archers and a sniper will be quite powerfull in RvR compared to 3 nonstealth chars.

Mythic seems to look at the US status when trying to balance this game. Archers used to own the battlefield, hence they got hit with the nerf stick...simple as that. Mages will be nerfed too due to the realmskills (uberresists). Full balance can never be achieved but Mythic is trying at least.
Nerfing is annoying, but its certainly easier than strenghthening the 50 other chars

All chars has a role in this game and can be great in RvR if played and build the right way.

Moongoose

 

[old.Doringard]

Its good to be archer... at least now, after leveling up real hard (no need in group bla) i had the advantage to go solo in frontier and have fun. After nerfing it wont be possible and i wont like that. I have to find a group for xping and after the patches i will have to find group for RvR? not fair...

 

[old.Doringard]

Its good to be archer... at least now, after leveling up real hard (no need in group bla) i had the advantage to go solo in frontier and have fun. After nerfing it wont be possible and i wont like that. I have to find a group for xping and after the patches i will have to find group for RvR? not fair... for the topic, if u want to lvl fast, DONT choose a stealther class, becouse plp wont invite u very often into groups, choose bard/tank/druid/nuke and u will have a group most of your time playing daoc. First, check daoc.catacombs.com and create your character then move to hibbi

 

[old.Doringard]

Originally posted by Moongoose
EDIT: WITH REGARDS TO MAGES

Mentalists gets pow regen, single target mezz and a less usefull humanoid charm. Pow regen is VERY nice and the mezz is handy too at times. You should have a fairly easy time getting groups as a mentalist due to the nice regen stuff in the mana line and the ability to emergency heal.



Moongoose

You forgot that mentalists get AOE dot in mana line and AOE DD in light line.

Mez is not that useful since you won't meet lonely mid or alb ppl very often

Lothrean (from Doris comp)

 

[old.Mug]

this is just a personal view but i reckon Druids are hte best in RvR

Decent armour- don't die strait away like mages
helas and buffs- you begged into gorups
insta heals- if correctly specced (like me ) you get 2 insta heals; 1 group and 1 self. if you are out on your own and are in a 1on1 then these will keep you alive long enough to kill and equal con, or a couple of low cons.
roots/dot/pet- roots can come in useful for cowards. The DoT and pet are added extras to do the bit of extra damage.

 

[ceixava]

why didnt i find a blademaster in greggor's rvr group compositions *cough*

but seriously, if you want to have fun in rvr at higher levels you got to be

a) a huge damagedealer (Spearo, hybrid hero)
b) a stealter
b) maybe some mage

pure tank in rvr = TEH SUQ since bards/support personnel seem to run off/think they can melee

all can change if you are in a group you know and who know how to do their jobs, cant be bothered with rvr if im there solo, no speed, no buffs, no heal = instadeath + walk back to emain

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by Doringard
Its good to be archer... at least now, after leveling up real hard (no need in group bla) i had the advantage to go solo in frontier and have fun. After nerfing it wont be possible and i wont like that. I have to find a group for xping and after the patches i will have to find group for RvR? not fair...

Join all the other classes welcome back

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by ceixava
why didnt i find a blademaster in greggor's rvr group compositions *cough*

Sorry ceixava but there are not many BMs about they are not very good tanks and there a bit gimped

would u recomed to play a BM now that u have played one?

Or recomed to play a spear/lw hero?

 

[old.Lianuchta]

Eld bolts are fun if you like to kill lower cons than you I can kill one bolt all grey/gree cons and a lot of blue cons as well as some yellow cons (avalonian/kobold mages). On higher cons (especially shield wearing tanks) the dmg done is negligible and your DD is a better option.

They don't solo RvR well, but like all Hib mages they get the mighty 8s (or 9s if you can be asked by the extra power cost) stun, which often swings small scale battles. If you have some light you get a reasonable mezz if there's no bards around and nearsight, which pisses people off no end if the comments on the IGN boards are anything to go by

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Hiho

Greggor:

Right blademasters are bad tanks , in fact they r no tanks at all
theyre dam dealers that cant take many hits
like a hero trading hp and defense for damage
and we cant all be spear heros or ? )

Mug :

Grats!!!! /bow
One person with the right attitude!!
Ask him why he thinks Druid is the best RvR and u get (perhaps) this answer:

Because its his char, he chose it and he loves it .. its not just a druid its HIS char (thats identifying , yeah)
Everybody should do like this and wed get many less whines
`
Cuz this is a game and its all about fun... winning can be fun but PLAYING can be so much more

cya all and good luck to you

Spicey

 

[old.cerebus]

If you want to be the most feared Hibernian on the battlefield there is only one choice.

The shield specced Lurikeen Champion.

Fighting beside one of these guys is the ultimate morale booster, seeing one of them take down a troll is the funniest thing you'll ever see.

They're pretty damn good as well. You never get targetted and you can carry a casters staff meaning ultimate surprise for those stealthers.

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by Nemesis Warlock

Greggor:

Right blademasters are bad tanks , in fact they r no tanks at all
theyre dam dealers that cant take many hits
like a hero trading hp and defense for damage
and we cant all be spear heros or ? )
Spicey

I am not dissing BMs i just have talked with alot and they are all disapointed and would not have started them

Cuchulainn BM gave up at 37th lvl and started Kickaha who is now 50th lvl bard

I really hope they get alot better and i hope they have fun with them

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by cerebus
If you want to be the most feared Hibernian on the battlefield there is only one choice.

The shield specced Lurikeen Champion.

Fighting beside one of these guys is the ultimate morale booster, seeing one of them take down a troll is the funniest thing you'll ever see.

They're pretty damn good as well. You never get targetted and you can carry a casters staff meaning ultimate surprise for those stealthers.

Tiro come back plz

 

[old.Lianuchta]

I made a bluntmaster alt and am levelling it for the battlegrounds. So far so happy. Think you need a group, but the dmg output seems pretty good, and with a spiked club and mace you must look pretty intimidating

 

[ceixava]

i dont see a trouble with bm's, except for the damage output which isnt quite at the level it should be...

but for now can be corrected by using a slow main hand weapon, and with 55blades, have hit for quite alot of damage, and won duels too

(played my skald for some time now to get a rvr char that i can play solo, and i even outdamaged a purple BM who was "stupid" enough to use fast weapons, they just dont cut it with bm damage table)

only prob with it is the rvr side, cant go solo

still if i'd have to go back to eu daoc release, my char would be a bm again, if id have to start all over again, i wouldnt play a bm since i already have a lvl50 one

if you really want to have fun in rvr, even solo, the only real choice is a stealther in hib (pain in the arse to level)

others can have fun too, but they need a team around them

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Soloing in the frontiers is very difficult even for stealthers..

U must be lucky these times to get single , non-tank, max yellow targets (better blues) and not a whole wargroup of middes...

from the mids / Albs i meet 75 % are at least 2 !
With 1 healer mezzer and a tank its impssible to do for me ..

When i shoot healer tank runs me till i got healer down (with his 2 instas) .. when i shoot tank im mezzed and so on...

So often i shoot a singel target only to get assasinated, shot or just another enemie passed while i sniped one and they attacked me both...

I prefer soloing only in areas where i 100% find low lvls or killing intruders at our gates...

For every other RvR i prefer groups...
Nothing better than standing inside of a circle of 3, 4 warriors shooting arrows everywhere and even getting healed )


Spiceeeey

 

[old.Darkomen]

Hi there spice...and others..

What comes to assasins and rangers..i'd say in RvR patience is the key. Take yer time to choose yer target and wait for right moment...there is nothing more pleasant that 1st take out that healer and then stealth again..and watch that tank running in terror looking for ya

Also in RvR i usully go with small grp...unless i am going to collory or gorge (in excal where i play mid/sb). usually it fun to have lil grp of stealthers together..u can do amazin amount of dmg and take out higher enemys aswell groups..at 1st they usually see only 1 of ya - often bow class...start rushing, and thinking to get easy kill...when near enuff, assasins turn comes - cpl PA's etc. and u can see em go down really fast

But yet i think every class has their pros and cons in RvR and in PvE - when ya know how use yer char and get into nicely balanced group i will have great time - what ever class u play.

-Darkomen-

U just wait and see my eldrich and our new guild to start rocking soon in prywden

 

[Tar-Aldarion]

I love my champ, I used to hate him cause i was trying to find how I can solo orgs with him and read a lot of threads that made me feel bad about choosing this class. I never tried to learn how to play it but i was looking for instructions so i can easily go ôï lvl 40+ and be able to kill everything on my way. After sometime I realized that I couldn’t solo well, at least not as good as other classes. So I got to find groups to get in, no good m8s, none wanted a champion in his group, they would prefer a healer or a nuker but not a tank. The good with the healers is that they can be a good help for a higher lvl tank, a low lvl tank will not be so helpful for other high lvl classes.

Now I group always with a band of friends, 1 or 2 Wardens a champ and a BM. we have learnt the way of playing of each other and we lvl every 3-5 hours of gameplay. It took me too long to learn my champ’s abilities. I know I am a defender, I know I can pull fast and multi times, I know I can’t make max dmg but I can debuff for group, I know that I can stay back and defend healers, nukers while others killing the mobs out, I know that I can insta blast a mage before his nuke kick my ass, or insta slow a tank so it never escapes from the battle. I always die to save healers @$$ and I know they love me for this . Too many words here, the point is that whatever you choose you have to give something from yourself to really enjoy it! You have to make it a unique character that will represent you in the realm, it has to be yours only! J

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Yay!!

hm i got no tank class in hib atm ... thinking about deleting my NS and making a warden... not the best tank but i always loved the Healing warriors in every game ... Proud fighters and i can rezz every m8 lying on my way ..