was just messing about and..

[Trinilim]

I found this kinda interesting.. and wanted to have somebody's opinion.

Friar spec points: 1.5x
Warden spec points: 1.5x

we both have the same things.. though for some versatility, friars have high evade, while wardens get a shield (which is SOME defense), higher parry, pbt, etc.

We both get buffs and heals

we both get haste

and I noticed we both look pretty good on paper with the following spec:

11 parry
44 blunt
45 nuture
16 regrowth

any ensight on this? was just messing about and got curious

edit - just noticed, 34% haste at 45 nuture with a 10 minute duration?? umm.. That's better than a Friar's emergency haste at 45 enhancement.. and that only lasts 30 seconds.. is this really right?

 

[VodkaFairy]

You'll find the warden to deal a whole lot less damage than a friar. If I were you I'd take weaponspec up to 25ish and focus on regrowth from then (max nurture). A warden is no damage dealer, and a healing warden will be very much appreciated.

There are some viable fighter-warden templates around but I'd just stick with healing/bubbling.

 

[<Harle>]

Warden not only deals less damage, but defense is much worse. You get Evade 5 ( if I'm right ?), that's 25% chance to avoid an attack ( modified by dex/qui, where you have a self-buff iirc), we get an untrainable shield, which is 5% chance to block ( modified by dex, which doesn't rise while lvling up). Additionaly you are wielding a 2-handed weapon, which reduces the enemies chance to parry by 50%, whereas shield/1-handed gives no penalty to enemy defense. I think this makes up for our higher haste and pbt.
The spec you posted is poo imo, as you miss out on the last 3 resist-buffs, and as mentioned before the high weapon-spec is wasted with such a low damage-dealing class.

 

[elerand]

Yep, battle warden isn't worth it imo, far better to be a good support class, my best heal tops at 421 and I can cast that enough times to be worth speccing for.

With 25 weapon spec I can taunt, interrupt casters and fight a bit when I have to but there are classes far better suited to melee than a warden so let them do it.

 

[Faeldawn]

Grouping wardens need to not die, specially in rvr, so a tanking warden is a liability. If you die, your group loses buffs/resistence buffs/pbt and backup healing/rezz ability.

I took blades to 21 for Horizon Blade and Fire Blade, can see no reason to raise blades further.

 

[<Harle>]

Resistance-buffs dont drop if you die

 

[Tyka]

base chance for a block is 15% "#¤@£$"#¤"

 

[Trinilim]

wow ok, thanks for input

 

[<Harle>]

nm, should stop playing around with numbers and play the game instead

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by Harle
Resistance-buffs dont drop if you die

Didnt know that , but they do run out and u cant recast em if yer watching on corpse-cam

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Originally posted by Tyka
base chance for a block is 15% "#¤@£$"#¤"

no it is not, and neither does dex affect blocking ability for classes that cannot spec shield.

Btw. it's extraordinary for a warden to hit over 200 damage on a yellow con mage, don't think friars can say the same

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos



Btw. it's extraordinary for a warden to hit over 200 damage on a yellow con mage, don't think friars can say the same

its extraordinary for a warden to hit anything for 200 damage