Warden spec help

[skakke]

I just have a few questions.

Is the energy resist buff worth speccing to 49 nurture?

is it worth speccing more than 16 regrowth since pbt will drain too much power to use it much.

weapon spec ? parry ?

any advice are appreciated

 

[hiban]

Ohoy there. I am Mr Uber von Knackerthrasher. And im captain on this ship. /mil

About good wardon spex....

Yes, the resistances are always welcome in rvr. The energy resistance might be abit more usefull now, when the thanes got spammable lightnings and stuff, than it was b4. (if i remember correct, the thanes lightings are energy damage) Also speccing healing is prolly the best thing to do, since wardon dmg output suck minor lurikeen behinds even if they spec weap high or not. id recommend something like: (opens char builder)

49 nurt
33 regrowth
14 parry
25 weap (think blunt might be a good choise)

or something. as i said dmg output isnt high anyways. so no need taking it much higher. A spec like that one will give u good resists and good heals. that with pbt will keep any grp alive.

good luck

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

or have a cookie(cutter)

49 nurture
43 regrowth
6 blades
7 parry

 

[old.Lianuchta]

Or the slightly more Battle oriented:

My spec:

49N
12R (first health regen, style end use reduction, 136 value heal)
39 Blunts/blades whatever your preference - I like fireblade/spectrumblade anytime combo in blades.
16 parry

or

49N
2R
39 Weapon
20 Parry

What can I say, I like to go in swinging. 1 vs 1 I can beat most melee classes (I'll die against vendo zerkers, savages, shield pallys, though running away with end regen against zerkers/savages sometimes let me escape). In larger battles, I'll try and interrupt the PBAE mages (50 energy and 50 spirit resist) or the healers. Whatever people say, if you use a slow weapon you can still 5-6 hit a 50 mage. And as you swing a bastard sword as if it were a short sword...

 

[hiban]

Found 2 nice spex (I will respec to 1 as fast as opportunity is given)

_Blade_ spec!

49 nurture
35 regrowth
21 blades
16 parry

_Blunt_ spec!

49 nurture
33 regrowth (gives self life regen 5 instead of 7. Suxxors. still good heals tho)
25 blunt
14 parry

Gifv respec stone pweese

 

[old.Cher]

i'm firmly from the battlewarden kind of spec

so i'm going 46 nurture 2 regrowth 44 weapon rest parry, seems my good friend gazzaglitter does well with this spec, and i love my snuttis so i'm going to follow his lead!

 

[old.Lianuchta]

You want 47 Nurture Cher. If you are going to fight you really need the last selfhaste to get any decent dps output.

 

[Frubly]

I have been 3 different specs:

(1) combat spec
49 Nurture - Best BT, dmg add, self haste and resist buffs
39 Blade - nice any time 2 hit combo fireblade/spectrum blade with second hit attack speed de-buff
16 Regrowth - for first end reduction buff and better rez
12 Parry - left over points


(2) weird spec
49 Nurture - best BT, dmg add, self haste and resist buffs
35 Regrowth - second best heal (385 without power relics 460 with all 3 power relics), health re-gen end reduction buff
25 parry - god knows why it sucks in rvr but was v nice in pve was hopeing to increase defense
6 Blades - was going all out support no attack so gets first taunt style

(3) current spec heavy regrowth
49 Nurture - best BT, dmg add, self haste and resist buffs
42 Regrowth - best heal (485 without power relics not tested with) and end reduction buff, second best health re-gen
12 Blades - with rr and item + i can get this to not a bad amount and i get taunt and de-taunt
6 parry - left over points

I realy like my current spec and I view wardens as a support class not a tanker
with most bards haveing to spec both music and nurture they often have very little regrowth so not very good healing (also they just have to run around in combat and try and play end but i wont go in to that) this dumps the healing all on the druid, with a support warden u can take some pressure of those poor druids

 

[ilienwyn]

For my warden I was thinking something more like:
49 Nurture
16 Regrowth for better rezz
34 Blunt
22 Parry

How does this seem to you?

 

[old.Aure]

Probably one thing you might want to do is await patch 1.62 full notes before deciding full specification.

One thing will change and thats group parry in rvr. If 1.62 doesnt offer any other benefit than better parry, then its still worthwhile.
If they fixed the bugged warden style damage with haste and the fatigue costs it will be of good benefit for melee orientated wardens.

I'm awaiting 1.62 before determing respec, but I'm looking at 47 nuture, 39 blunt, 4 regrowth and think 23or so parry. Add Mo parry 4 and +17 from ranks and points and you gonna be over 50 parry. Warden ra's are a bit limited tbh so whereas as a main tank you will probably stop at lvl 2 in most things, something like lvl 4 in parry for melee warden would be considered.

Atm, 47 nurture, 2 reg, 44 blades and 14 parry. With 4.2 delay bastard sword and high qui, haste and mo arcane 1(mastery of arms is broken, doh) you gonna be about 2 sec delay. Crap hits 70-120 are common on Alb tanks, but it is possible to hit 400+ with crits on Sm and similar. I struck a mid caster today with revenging blade for 306 non crit damage with a plain 99% enchanted bastard sword and no + to weapons on it. Thats not too shabby if 2 secs later its 275 damage, or 581 damage in your 4.2 secs.

Btw 44 blades and drood buffed and aug str you can get decent weaponskill. This also may be more helpful in future patches.

Wardens lack proper healing ra's like wild healing, moc and other stuff but its up to you to optimise, they can perform averagely at healing and in melee. If uninterupted as Furball says he can lay on some nice heals. Unfortunately I find it rare that no-ones beating on me immediately so I ended up dumping regrowth all together. Give wardens moc.

The main thing to remember is you arent ideally suited at meleeing enemy tanks. Sure you can slug it out and its a good fight, but its long. Look for cloth and swing on it and stop it nuking. You can as Lian says take down cloth, especially middies in 10 secs.

/assist a shield hero and take down his target or look for cloth and go interupt.

Hope that parry is right in 1.62 cos its gonna be good for wardens, esp vs dual wield. Really high parry will actually be cool.

Wait and see, just bump nurture to start with. Who knows if they add single target snares in regrowth then maybe thats gonna be more useful than anything else.

1.62d tomorrow, fingers crossed.

 

[old.Anpu]

Got no problems healing in rvr, usually i'm one of the last to get attacked.
Everyone ignores me

/Anpu

 

[old.Cher]

Its because of your beautiful hair..... however in 3 more lvls that shall be no more!

 

[Faeldawn]

imho so called 'battlespec' wardens are a waste of time, dmg at high weapon spec for a warden is pitiful.

The warden is a support class, ok so they can tank in pve, but in rvr they are a support class.

My 50 spec was

Nurture 49
Regrowth 33
Blades (cant remember offhand)
Parry 20

zero points left over

Wardens are needed in rvr for their pbt and resists, if they can heal its a bonus, BUT, if the warden is dead from running into melee the group is immediately deprived of its buffs, pbt and healing.