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Is it me or is WAP the most useless, stuff it down you throat concept in recent years?
Is it me or is WAP the most useless, stuff it down you throat concept in recent years?
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old.Kez
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Its pretty unanimously (er, sp?) failed really, and is just a novel way to waste one's leftover free minutes.
Roll on the next 'decent' web technology.
Mobile phones are fucking ridiculous IMO, I can understand wanting perhaps to know the time, or have GPS, but you don't have all the same kind of wank in a normal phone, why bother on a mobile one? fs.
Roll on the next 'decent' web technology.
Mobile phones are fucking ridiculous IMO, I can understand wanting perhaps to know the time, or have GPS, but you don't have all the same kind of wank in a normal phone, why bother on a mobile one? fs.
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Yeah but now they're trying to push it as a games platform!!!!
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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Thats not WAP, thats GPRS - General Packets Radio Service. Its basically a mobile cable modem, in that you are 'always on' the internet. However, you only pay when you actually use the net.
For instance - you get sent an email. The phone will show you have an email in real-time for free. No logging on to check and all that bollox. However, you then pay to read the email (a flat rate fee, its not timed!).
As for the games - Sony have teamed up with DoCoMo ( I think ) to try and turn the mobile phone into a competitor for the Gameboy, by allowing people to play PS2 games online against other PS2 users (weird huh?).
It does actually look like a half decent technology when combined with Bluetooth (a wireless way to control EVERYTHING - for instance, your telly will tell you when your dinner is ready) but its just a matter of making it affordable....
As for WAP - it was hyped up far too much, as there were very few websites enabled for it at the time. It could be a half decent technology, were it not for the poor timing of release.
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For instance - you get sent an email. The phone will show you have an email in real-time for free. No logging on to check and all that bollox. However, you then pay to read the email (a flat rate fee, its not timed!).
As for the games - Sony have teamed up with DoCoMo ( I think ) to try and turn the mobile phone into a competitor for the Gameboy, by allowing people to play PS2 games online against other PS2 users (weird huh?).
It does actually look like a half decent technology when combined with Bluetooth (a wireless way to control EVERYTHING - for instance, your telly will tell you when your dinner is ready) but its just a matter of making it affordable....
As for WAP - it was hyped up far too much, as there were very few websites enabled for it at the time. It could be a half decent technology, were it not for the poor timing of release.
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Wij
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WAP is pointless tho. 99% of ppl have no interest in viewing 3 lines of text for entertainment (unless it's a text msg from a friend.) Also that iMode stuff is far better. The government totally stung the phone operators by selling the G3 licences during the WAP-hype frenzy. They paid faaaaaaar too much for em. Course it went to paying off a load of the national debt this year but mobile users will have to pay that back somehow. Just a roundabout tax 
My point is WAP is dog's cock anyway
My point is WAP is dog's cock anyway
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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Good tech used badly, methinks. And the Telecoms companies have really done themselves up the shitter by paying £22Bn for the 3G licenses - what were they thinking? Stupid idiots managed to out-bid themselves into a frenzy when the licenses were auctioned off and now it could take up to 10 years to see a return on that investment - if the companies survive at all.
There's no doubt the 3G GPRS tech is top-notch, but the mobile operators really conducted a bit of bad business when they bought those licensees for KawaZ33 prices!
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There's no doubt the 3G GPRS tech is top-notch, but the mobile operators really conducted a bit of bad business when they bought those licensees for KawaZ33 prices!
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Yeah, I got Wap phone but didn't buy it for that. I don't use it much, execept sometimes to go on Gameplay and check the gaming news. But your right, it is pretty pointless.
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old.Quorthon
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Friend of mine got the first Nokia wap phone. When I asked to see it about a week later he kind of looked at me sheepishly and handed it over. I knew by his reaction that he had been sold a load of shite, and he was embarrassed to have forked out £170 for it.
They are slow, the web pages are incredibly basic, trying to do anything with them eg book cinema tickets, would actually be far quicker ringing up the phone hotlines etc
I think consumer associations should have taken the telcos to task for selling these things when the underlying services weren't there.
I have no doubt that things will improve; the speeds will get faster and the phones more functional - I am still not convinved however that people are going to want to spend that much time staring at a screen the size of a postage stamp???
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They are slow, the web pages are incredibly basic, trying to do anything with them eg book cinema tickets, would actually be far quicker ringing up the phone hotlines etc
I think consumer associations should have taken the telcos to task for selling these things when the underlying services weren't there.
I have no doubt that things will improve; the speeds will get faster and the phones more functional - I am still not convinved however that people are going to want to spend that much time staring at a screen the size of a postage stamp???
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True, i'm certainly not interested in staring at my phone screen...
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Wij
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Yup why buy things online through that little shitty screen if you have a bloody phone in your hand ??? Just ring em up ffs. Daft idea
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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LOL, now when you put it like that, considering the phone calls are often cheaper than WAP....
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No they're trying to use WAP as well...even if the games are basic.
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Wij
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Basic ? They'd make ZX80 games look advanced
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bodhi
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Yer but WAP gives me an excuse to buy a Nokia 7110, which I have always wanted due to the "SCHLOCK" effect. Who cares if it breaks, or the phone is larger than my old one. It still goes SCHLOCK.
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luap
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Actually the 7110 goes SCHLOCK......DONK, as the slide cover hits the ground. Tis a piece of crap m8.
/me pats Nokia 8990. Nice phone, cool looks, no cWAP.
/me pats Nokia 8990. Nice phone, cool looks, no cWAP.
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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The 7110 is a lethal weapon, as my boss will testify. I used his 7110 to make a call - I press the release button and here a cool "SCLOCK...*THWACK*" and look up to see the cover has flown off and hit my boss on the nose (he was sitting down, I was standing up).
Needless to say, we don't use them no more...
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Needless to say, we don't use them no more...
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Such total wank.
I've had a 7110 now for over a year, never had a single problem with it (except when I dropped the first one in a large bowl of mayonaise and washed it under a tap while it was still on (I was drunk)). We've also used them at work for testing WAP enabled applications, and just about everyone else who works here has one too. No-ones ever broken one, or had anything go wrong with them, it's a myth I say!!!!!!
It has a lovely large screen and a roller wheely thingy, which is actually bloody good. The software is functional and easy to use.
Damn top phone!!
I've had a 7110 now for over a year, never had a single problem with it (except when I dropped the first one in a large bowl of mayonaise and washed it under a tap while it was still on (I was drunk)). We've also used them at work for testing WAP enabled applications, and just about everyone else who works here has one too. No-ones ever broken one, or had anything go wrong with them, it's a myth I say!!!!!!
It has a lovely large screen and a roller wheely thingy, which is actually bloody good. The software is functional and easy to use.
Damn top phone!!
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Wazzerphuk
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So does playing snake over the net on your phone not appeal then?
(Me either).
(Me either).
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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Exor, the big screen and roller button are good - but the lethal weapon factor isn't so cool when you want a pay rise...
As for the WAP probs - well the phone just decides to turn-off mid browse and often mid-conversation as well. Our company also found that about 1 in 8 out of the coupla hundred we ordered were missing vital sections from the menu. Namely all the WAP stuff and the Settings area.
Still played Snake tho.
I guess it just depends on how lucky you are when dealing with Nokia.
Now we've switched onto the 6210 which is very sleek and smart, but you have to pay £5 a month to enable the modem to beef up from 9600 bps to 28800 bps which is a bit fucking silly (we use em to dial in from the trains).
Roll on cheap GPRS.
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[Edited by [CS]Sentinel on 28-03-01 at 12:13]
As for the WAP probs - well the phone just decides to turn-off mid browse and often mid-conversation as well. Our company also found that about 1 in 8 out of the coupla hundred we ordered were missing vital sections from the menu. Namely all the WAP stuff and the Settings area.
Still played Snake tho.
I guess it just depends on how lucky you are when dealing with Nokia.
Now we've switched onto the 6210 which is very sleek and smart, but you have to pay £5 a month to enable the modem to beef up from 9600 bps to 28800 bps which is a bit fucking silly (we use em to dial in from the trains).
Roll on cheap GPRS.
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[Edited by [CS]Sentinel on 28-03-01 at 12:13]
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Wij
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Wouldn't have a mobile anyway. I like not being able to be rung by work
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*Exor*
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Perhaps if you buy your phones from competent companies, sent, you won't have a problem (that is of course if you didn't buy direct from Nokia (can you do that?)).
I don't care about the WAP part anyway (still never had a problem with it at work) because I didn't even bother WAP enabling mine. It does have its uses for business users though, but for most people, it's pretty pointless.
I don't care about the WAP part anyway (still never had a problem with it at work) because I didn't even bother WAP enabling mine. It does have its uses for business users though, but for most people, it's pretty pointless.
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old.[CS]Sentinel
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Not too sure about the purchasing side, but I dont *think* we went through a third party....but I'll probably find out tomorrow we bought them from Carphone Warehouse
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