Hey peeps, I was peed off like everyone else about cata released dates being cocked up...so i kept thinking and reading around...finally i found a way that i could play catacombs tomorrow regardless to whether i had the CD's or not. If u want to play catacombs bad - like me - then do this.... Firstly send me a personal msg and ill email u 3 files which you use to download catacombs from the US servers. - put all 3 files into an empty folder (new folder) and then run the .exe...it will then download the entire catacombs client from US server's which is 2.3gig - took around 4 hours for me with a 2mb connection cos it was running at around 30kps and then got faster to around 150kps. Then check this link out while its downloading.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....884&category=33302&sspagename=rvi:1:3v_search That is a german company that currently has copy's of catacombs in stock and available - ask the guy there that you wanna buy catacombs but if he can tell you the catacombs CD Key before he post's it..which he's done for me and a few mates. Hell then send you ur purchased Catacombs CD key via email or whatever So now uve got catacombs downloading from US and a CD key for catacombs EU servers tommorrow. once its finshed downloading leave it be and wait till after the servers come back up tommorrow..then u need to do this..... Copy the update.dat and login.dat files from your Euro ToA install and overwrite the US files. Open update.dat with a text editor and change the word atlantis to catacombs in both urls. Save it and you should connect to the Euro patch servers and patch the Euro version. Then register your CD key. and bang! enjoy catacombs! Its what ive had to do and it was a pain in the **** trying to think and eventually find a company that had catacombs in stocketc , but it means i get to play catacombs 2morrow, when i was supposed to be able too. Please note.... The game discs from germany cost at estimate around £16.99 but you need to add postage costs. - mine came too around £30 with delivery. can i also add that yes im peed off - but ive read alot of peeps moaning about all this crap like its the GM's fault. but it isnt imo. and they have helped me find all this info out..so for that i would like to say thanks! Anyway. cya in catacombs!