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ok this is a whine post get ready ....

why give a class debuff immunity on a 5 min RUT when my dmg is based on poisons and debuffs... WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE . Sbs were op ok pre-la nerf okok . infils been op with 9 sec stun (they re always op anyway )
ns's been always kinda balanced but why give em remedy... i have viper3 and i use heat debuffing weapons ... HOW CAN I BEAT AN NS WITH A DECENT TEMPLATE WHEN HE IS IMMUNE TO EVERYTHING I GOT ... ok things have been retarded in the past but this is just fucked up .


full dps main hand immune to s/c debuff poisons . malice debuff . heat debuff...............................................................................




ok mythic GJ once again u show how clueless u developers about the game






d3f1 off







i m glad that almost all nightshades in excal are pure shit so i cant die to fucking remedy every time ... what will happen tho with cluster ?








QQ
 

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Kagato

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Maybe reconsider the Viper 3 then? Can't be good vs everything, we all have our classes we struggle against.
 

censi

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i would say viper 3 is a must for a SB.

dont think mythic are quite aware of how much of an I win remedy is versus other asssasins, but then again they wont give us celt or shar nightshades because the stats are oh so imbalacing on that class (?!) as oppossed to other races! (which seriously is wrong ofc)

remedy will prolly get batted down to a 15 min timer or summin i reckon.
 

Talivar

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Remeber tho censi we didnt get celt or shar NS cus the top US NS at that time QQ a river. :(
 

Zvixx

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hugmeh hope thoose clips are still going in your movie !
 

Twinky

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and using slash weaps wont work either... since ns and rangers r resistant to it...
 

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censi said:
i dont think mythic are quite aware of how much of an I win remedy is versus other asssasins, but then again they wont give us celt or shar nightshades because the stats are oh so imbalacing on that class (?!) as oppossed to other races! (which seriously is wrong ofc)

it's cos the tash would <3!

TBH, Mythic have shown us how completely & utter f00kin shite they are at deciding classes & balances.
 

angrysquirrel

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mythic are not trying to balance the game though, are they ? why introduce another boring char when you can introduce new unbalanced chars and encourage people to keep playing.

oh and nerf mid stealthers who window drag QQ
 

Twinky

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damage table

resistant to slash : NS and Rangers

raven..
 

Mazzaca

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Nothing beats a hairy greek complaining about smth :E
<3 d3f1 too.
 

majik

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There will be no love to SB's while d3f1 is playing, because making him stronger would be stealthrape to everyone else:( <3
 

Zoia

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censi said:
remedy will prolly get batted down to a 15 min timer or summin i reckon.
Unfortunately that's the Mythic way of fixing things.

Like zephyr being changed to a 15 min re-use timer.
It's still overpowered, just not as often. :p
 

illu

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Most's NS's just end up being a straight up melee fight. Try and get a poisonspike on them (afaik they aren't immune to that), and maybe use the Battler or Malice Charge (if it doesn't affect them (even though I think it does) at least you end up better off).
Let them hit you with the str/con debuff, and if things are going bad - and you can't do the things above - you can always risk a purge to get back on level terms, but the last time I did that - the jammy luri landed his stun :/

NS's are tough but beatable, and they are so lucky to have remedy as their fantastic RA compared to Shadowstrike (!). Maybe spec out of viper 3 for a bit and go to viper 2, and add more aug str / aug con / toughness?

Good luck

Oli - Illu

PS Wittor - SB's aren't OP you wind up merchant :> NS>Inf>SB. To make an SB competitive - you need all the tools / tricks / artifacts. To win a fight as an SB 1on1 - hell to win a fight as an assassin - we're all in the same boat with 1second Life-Tapping Insta-Mezzing Insta-Stunning 90%melee-blocking MoCcing Casters who have pets that hit for 700+, stun you and if you don't have vanish up - half an hour after the fight the pet sniffs you out from being stealthed (the most stupid thing ever) and you hit this BLUE con piece of crap pet for less than you hit a rr10 tank. Frustrating game :>
 

censi

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i dont think FZ is all that overpowered. its like an unpurgeable 9 second stun, in return for it being unpurgable you can sometimes get LOS issues stopping it from firing and ofc sometimes you will miss with it.

like not as good as insta stun, or base stun, or slam or whatever.

soj line pretty duff now tbh.

2 mins timer was too short though. 15 mins timer was too great a nerf though.
 

Zoia

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censi said:
i dont think FZ is all that overpowered. its like an unpurgeable 9 second stun, in return for it being unpurgable you can sometimes get LOS issues stopping it from firing and ofc sometimes you will miss with it.

like not as good as insta stun, or base stun, or slam or whatever.

soj line pretty duff now tbh.

2 mins timer was too short though. 15 mins timer was too great a nerf though.
Perhaps, but being double zephyred by a minstrel duo, then instastunned wasn't fun. :p
That doesn't happen often now, but slam/instastun + zephyr is still a bit too much.
A 5 min timer and immunity while "riding" would be the best. :)
 

Stasi

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illu said:
we're all in the same boat with 1second Life-Tapping Insta-Mezzing Insta-Stunning 90%melee-blocking MoCcing Casters who have pets that hit for 700+, stun you and if you don't have vanish up - half an hour after the fight the pet sniffs you out from being stealthed (the most stupid thing ever) and you hit this BLUE con piece of crap pet for less than you hit a rr10 tank. Frustrating game :>


So true, special the part where the pets sniff u up and u hit it for crap
 

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SB's are the best Assassins; they just all whiny bastards who play the class.

Atleast SB can spec out of Viper3 and voilla he didnt waste a 30 points of RA's which works on ALL classes except Nightshades. Not a too bad trade-off IMO.

In the meantime he could get Phoebus Necklace and totally rape other assassins with 75% style-reduction, where other assassins cant get that. Combined with more HP and highest CON race available to assasins this does add up.

Left-Axe is far superiour when it comes to applying poisons quick and reliable to the enemy. Also the ability to use Malice Axe in your offhand and still make it proc alot while bashing with a heater/freezer-mainhand on those other sneaks is a big plus. That outweights the 'omg I do only 87.5% mainhand damage' whines by far IMO.

Surely SB's need to work 'harder' to be competativer (healer bot for haste; shaman for spec-buffs, spec-AF charges) but once you did that stuff you're prolly king of the hill with a Shadowblade.
 

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Puppet said:
SB's are the best Assassins; they just all whiny bastards who play the class.

Atleast SB can spec out of Viper3 and voilla he didnt waste a 30 points of RA's which works on ALL classes except Nightshades. Not a too bad trade-off IMO.

In the meantime he could get Phoebus Necklace and totally rape other assassins with 75% style-reduction, where other assassins cant get that. Combined with more HP and highest CON race available to assasins this does add up.

Left-Axe is far superiour when it comes to applying poisons quick and reliable to the enemy. Also the ability to use Malice Axe in your offhand and still make it proc alot while bashing with a heater/freezer-mainhand on those other sneaks is a big plus. That outweights the 'omg I do only 87.5% mainhand damage' whines by far IMO.

Surely SB's need to work 'harder' to be competativer (healer bot for haste; shaman for spec-buffs, spec-AF charges) but once you did that stuff you're prolly king of the hill with a Shadowblade.

So what about:

Unbalanced by poor armour tables.
S/c debuff effects sb 100% and other assassins 50%.
The lack of a direct stun after evade.
The lack of positional styles.
And this thread is about Remedy, REMEDY PREVENT THE MALICE PROC AFFECTING THE NIGHTSHADE.

In summary, we aren't all whiny bastards, it's just you who needs to get a fucking clue, retard.
 

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