Volcanic Pillar abuse

[Jupiter]

2 second non interruptible cast time huh, nice bug abuse/lag casting there albs, 3 times inside DA Tower last nite, u run downtsairs into the corner full of hibs and cast....

no moc or bg had nothing to do with it u were still moving when ra was cast

bit lame but then again ur albs what ya expect

 

[Pohjan Poika]

not abuse/bug, if you read the patch notes you will notice:

Negative Maelstrom, Volcanic Pillar, Thornweed Field, and Ichor of the deep have had their description updated. These spells will have a base cast time of 2 seconds (before dex modifications) but cannot be interrupted.

 

[Kjel]

so they only have to hold still for about 1s to get it off, also if it was at a keep and they whack /face to stop quickly, you'll prolly see them lagging off into the distance.

 

[Wazkyr]

2 second non interruptible cast time huh, nice bug abuse/lag casting there albs, 3 times inside DA Tower last nite, u run downtsairs into the corner full of hibs and cast....

no moc or bg had nothing to do with it u were still moving when ra was cast

bit lame but then again ur albs what ya expect

you just made a fool of yourself :kissit: :touch:

and saying this:
"nice bug abuse/lag casting there albs" and
"bit lame but then again ur albs what ya expect"
is like saying evry alb bug abuse, im sure somebody will flame you to death

 

[Jupiter]

so they only have to hold still for about 1s to get it off, also if it was at a keep and they whack /face to stop quickly, you'll prolly see them lagging off into the distance.

thats my whole point, he didnt lag off into the distance, 2nd time i stood away from the crowd and put my gt into the centre of the room, the second i saw him coming down the stairs i hit twf, so he had to still run across my gt, i was stationary and wasnt being interrupted at the time, no i didnt get mine off but he did, plus there was shrooms in the door way... so its either damn impressive that he can run down a stairs into a corner, stand still and cast uninterrupted or something else... to do it once fair enough, 2nd time i was rdy, 3rd time i just ran out

 

[Jupiter]

not abuse/bug, if you read the patch notes you will notice:

to translate that for u, u must b standing still uninterupted for over 1s before u can cast any of those, they say 2s but its a little less, so if ur dotted/mezzed/in combat/casting it wont work

 

[haarewin]

to translate that for u, u must b standing still uninterupted for over 1s before u can cast any of those, they say 2s but its a little less, so if ur dotted/mezzed/in combat/casting it wont work

dots only interrupt when they land.
and i saw from testing them on gorre that you can be meleed at and still cast them, if thats what you mean by in combat..

 

[Bhalage]

2 second non interruptible cast time huh, nice bug abuse/lag casting there albs, 3 times inside DA Tower last nite, u run downtsairs into the corner full of hibs and cast....

no moc or bg had nothing to do with it u were still moving when ra was cast

bit lame but then again ur albs what ya expect

now tell me m8 what the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Corran]

So someone casted a spell that is UNinterruptable and that is bug abuse?

By that quickcast and moc would be illegal as they cant be inturupted, nor ichor etc. All them spells cant be stopped by anything but a successful stun/mezz which is the point of them, you rather them be made insta cast again? Oh and they can be casted while someone in melee on you. my sorc uses it Ichor on stealthers that run through abuse the QC cc as they dont know that it is coming.


They may of got their cast of before you merely as they got much higher dex as well so they can cast and move before you even got yours off.

Damn all you hibbies casting spells uninturupted constantly when no one near you. such cheating bug abuse. (thought i may as well talk shit too)

 

[VidX]

So someone casted a spell that is UNinterruptable and that is bug abuse?

By that quickcast and moc would be illegal as they cant be inturupted, nor ichor etc. All them spells cant be stopped by anything but a successful stun/mezz which is the point of them, you rather them be made insta cast again? Oh and they can be casted while someone in melee on you. my sorc uses it Ichor on stealthers that run through abuse the QC cc as they dont know that it is coming.


They may of got their cast of before you merely as they got much higher dex as well so they can cast and move before you even got yours off.

Damn all you hibbies casting spells uninturupted constantly when no one near you. such cheating bug abuse. (thought i may as well talk shit too)

A successful Amnesia cancels any spell, whether MoC or quickcast.

 

[Jupiter]

They may of got their cast of before you merely as they got much higher dex as well so they can cast and move before you even got yours off.

if it was a case of u stand one side i stand the other yes ur point is correct and they will always outcast me, but thats not my point as as usual u take things outta context and bring out loadsa pointless shit about qc, moc etc which is common knowledge, let me go thru it again

a) he was at top of stairs
b) i had my gt in the middle of bottom floor of tower
c) 5-6 hibbies were standing out of los at the right hand side of door
d) i was left hand side
f) there was shrooms in doorway
e) when he got to the bottom of the 1st flight of stairs i hit twf, i aint dotted or interrupted at this stage
f) volcanic pillar is cast, you are hit by *** for ***
g) so, he can run down final flight of stairs, run across the room, into the right hand corner, stand still cast volcanic pillar and u put it down to his dex cap

 

[Danya]

If you didn't stun or mez him (and twf does neither, nor do shrooms), why wouldn't he be able to cast it? That's kinda the point of uninterruptible. It's basically an insta with a 1-2s delay.
Could be worse - static tempest is insta. ;D

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

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"I died to someone using his character and RA's in a smart way and im pissed off so i came on here to vent rather than going back and killing the offending player's avatar."

 

[Jupiter]

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"I died to someone using his character and RA's in a smart way and im pissed off so i came on here to vent rather than going back and killing the offending player's avatar."

nope, dont mind dieing as its part of the game, i dont whine about dieing, i whine and flame alot of other things about the game but not getting killed, just find it strange that the only explanation i can get is that his higher dex cap than mine, in a very unique circumstance, was the reason... just one of lifes little mysteries, like why do whales beach themselves....

 

[Jupiter]

If you didn't stun or mez him (and twf does neither, nor do shrooms), why wouldn't he be able to cast it? That's kinda the point of uninterruptible. It's basically an insta with a 1-2s delay.
Could be worse - static tempest is insta. ;D

i was stationary, he was moving when i hit twf, but he got to his position and fired vp before mine had a chance to go off, accounting for delay... so in other words it took him less than 2s (but my dex is capped + specs so its less than 2s) to get down stairs across room and fire before me.. suppose u'd have to b there to understand....

 

[Invisibul]

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lmao

 

[VidX]

Scenario:

Alb wizzie with VP up, grouped with a Mincer with SoS up.

Mincer uses SoS, Wizzie runs down, through the snare TWF field which he is immune to, stops, casts the 2 sec base cast, non-interuptable spell (will usually work out to 0.6 sec after casting speed cap modifiers on a 2 sec spell) then tries to run back up through the TWF field with DI2/3 healing him.

Sounds like what happenned tbh.

I can see what Jup is saying, but I doubt it was any sort of abuse.

 

[GruffdorMcDuff]

Fact of the matter is - you don't huddle in a corner. If you can't take the heat get out the lord room sorta thing. Were albs win fights no matter how - the hibs cover at the slightest sign of a siege and just hang in the lord room with their self proclaimed leaders screaming "stay off the BMs" with the exception of one oil pourer getting the crap shot out of him.

Then bang the doors are open - and the hibs run upstairs and cram into the smallest space possible where you cannot aim properly you cannot think fast enough due to the confusion - and than bang AE crap hits you - it could have been a PB an AE dot , you still wouldn't have survived.

Try actually holding the towers for once And leave albs alone

 

[Elendar]

this whine from the man who tries to grapple endlessly when his ma train is attacking a soloer

 

[Gahn]

Uhm

this whine from the man who tries to grapple endlessly when his ma train is attacking a soloer

Getting words out of context to flame a person is bitter, period.

 

[VidX]

Fact of the matter is - you don't huddle in a corner. If you can't take the heat get out the lord room sorta thing. Were albs win fights no matter how - the hibs cover at the slightest sign of a siege and just hang in the lord room with their self proclaimed leaders screaming "stay off the BMs" with the exception of one oil pourer getting the crap shot out of him.

Then bang the doors are open - and the hibs run upstairs and cram into the smallest space possible where you cannot aim properly you cannot think fast enough due to the confusion - and than bang AE crap hits you - it could have been a PB an AE dot , you still wouldn't have survived.

Try actually holding the towers for once And leave albs alone

Try opening your eyes and rethinking your post, applying the fact that Hibs are usually outnumbered 2:1 and outranged most of the time, therefore having little choice but to play defensive when required.

FYI: Albs have NEVER actually attacked a keep directly in NF with a ram, they sit back and pelt it with trebs and take the towers, then move in once there is less defence available. So you can argue that they are using tactics to their advantage and attacking from the strongest position?

Ok, how about Hibs realising they can't hold a position, retreating to a more defensive position, and preparing there as best they can? Works, as we have yet to lose a Hib keep, whereas both Albs and Mids have lost theirs.

 

[Jupiter]

this whine from the man who tries to grapple endlessly when his ma train is attacking a soloer

hahha haahhah, u see Vidx gave a explanation i can live with and accept, u on the other hand give what? I mainly run in a mage set-up so where u get the ma train from i dont know, u attack a mage/healer in my group damn right i'll grapple u and i wont apologise for it, if u try run away i'll grapple ya so wtf u point? nice quote 2, ty stupeh, again taken outta context of a relic raid.... tosser

 

[GruffdorMcDuff]

Im a hib player - i have 2 lvl 50 hibs, but they don't use tactics. They run and hide till they may be able to tip the scale in their favour. The undermanned excuse grows old after a while - rough RvR figures probably balance about even. And judging by a daily examination of the war map - hib's vintage trouble is holding gotten gains.

And we are talking about towers tbh - but i imagine it would be the same "get off the BMs - they fire sticks with sharp ends from almost elasticated pieces or twine strung between a bendy piece of wood!!!!"

 

[GruffdorMcDuff]

I im considering a fresh start on albion - keep that spark of RvR action without getting bosed about by BG leaders who blame everything on "FoTM".

 

[Graendel]

Who can afford a good VP these days?

 

[VidX]

Im a hib player - i have 2 lvl 50 hibs, but they don't use tactics. They run and hide till they may be able to tip the scale in their favour. The undermanned excuse grows old after a while - rough RvR figures probably balance about even. And judging by a daily examination of the war map - hib's vintage trouble is holding gotten gains.

And we are talking about towers tbh - but i imagine it would be the same "get off the BMs - they fire sticks with sharp ends from almost elasticated pieces or twine strung between a bendy piece of wood!!!!"

So you want people to stand in the open and get hit/damaged/killed?

What's the sense in that? I always have and always will advise people not to stick their heads out where they can get it taken off, only people who really have a reason to be on battlements are ranged players or shield tanks with guard on the ranged players, everyone else just makes an AE target and gets everyone around them killed.

Healers can heal perfectly fine with SH from inside the tower, tanks without guard have nothing to do unless they are the one manning the oil or treb/ballista, in which case they have an even bigger advantage if they are a warlord, shades are better running about the base of the tower killing targets, rangers are best using /assist to kill key targets.

But if there's too many attackers and AE casters to successfully interupt, there's no point wasting power or time making the effort, may as well get a solid defence set up and finalising defence plans, getting RAs recharged, guards/intercepts set up, and the best position for maximum damage worked out.

If you're insisting on running among the enemy and making a target of yourself, do so, I just hope you do it away from me and anyone else that you might get killed.

 

[VidX]

Also, yes, Hibs trouble is holding what we gain. And why? Cause we may start off with even or greater numbers, but then 2x the enemy show up, and even more camp our 'supply routes' meaning we cannot get more Hibs there to counter the increased enemy numbers. Therefore we end up losing due to more people having to /release cause aforementioned idiots insist on sticking their heads out to get them shot off by the amazingly high number of Scouts that are running the usual /assist groups (I have no trouble with the /assist, infact that's what its there for, it's the camping of key spots and adding on groups to leech the RP that is annoying btw Scouts).

 

[Wazkyr]

sure somebody will flame you to death

Seems i was guessing right

 

[Frozenheart]

hehe tbh .. if u think we bug abuse then right now it instead of whining on here

 

[Maeloch]

I read it can make you go blind.

Mael, 50th ment.