very wide question

[Lusse]

i know its really hard to point out and everyone has different opinions and all.. But still

Im unsure on what to play... still :-/

Tried a few classes but still not sure what to play. So my question is


What class do you find rather fun to play in PvE (and useful, i.e groups would like to take you in) And also good in RvR


Now, Offcourse all classes are better in some parts and worse in others... But there are still a few of them that are useful and fun in both departments. I would just like to see what everyone thinks.

 

[old.Halfmad]

Skald for midgard, dont think there's any in hibernia that are good RVR and still wanted by groups when leveling.

Albion - cleric/minstrel?

 

[Lusse]

thought there were so many skalds that it was hard getting a group period. incorrect?

 

[granny]

It is indeed a very wide question and hard to answer precisely because everyone has their own opinions about what makes a character good.

For PVE every class is good, but some are better solo (enchanter for instance) and some require groups (bard). For RVR the same is true - wanna hunt solo then go for a stealth/assassin character. Wanna be grouped all the time then go for warden or bard.

In Hibernia the classes that seem to be in shortest supply (and therefore always easy to get into groups) are Wardens and shield Heroes. Don't know about other realms though.

 

[Addlcove]

for an occational laugh pick a friar

nothing is quite as funny as seeing some gree-yellow con tank attack a "caster" that suddently starts bashing with his stick enemies have a single track mind at that point I have been told, it goes something like

"Im gonna make it without him noticing me"
"why is he hitting me with a stick instead of casting?"
"auch it hurts"
:after tank dies:
"what was that thing?"




but be prepared for long hours as backup healer and always watch your aggro

 

[old.LandShark]

Without wishing to tread on anyone's toes here, may i suggest that you don't play a fighter. They get soooo boring after a while, endless hacking away. Real one-trick ponies and that's always going to get boring after a while... just look at how many level 50 armsmen there are, and how many of them are retired or playing alts.

If you want a suggestion, make a sorceror. Extremely useful in RvR, the realm really needs more sorcs. Bit hard to level in the early levels, but later you will find that groups need your crowd control skills.
Minstrel is fun but for the love of god don't make one, we have about 400 lowbie minstrels around (every high level has an alt one ffs )

 

[Lusse]

frair has been in my mind for a long time aswell.... anyone know how well they can solo? I've a little son so I prefer to solo since i have to take sudden afks all the time

 

[c0ngo]

Try a Thurg.

If you want to solo they can solo fine. Red/Low Purp possible, Orange not 2 hard and yellow and lower easy, but lots of DT on higher cons.

When spec earth to 26 you should't have 2 many problems with grps cause that's when u get the 1st Pulsing BT

Not 2 bad RvR atm (watching hibbie/middies reactions when they spam pets at them is sooooooooo funny) and they're supposed to get better later.

 

[old.Paranoid]

For Albion:

Cleric - Wanted in group, good in rvr if you go smite
Minstrel - Wanted in groups very good in rvr
Theurg - Have the most wanted group buff in albion... and i hear are very good in rvr... but they are casters.. which i dont like personally for RvR

 

[Eleasias]

Try a healer in Midgard, "good" in RvR doesnt mean you make the kills yourself, healer is one of the best RvR classes in the whole game, while being in short supply, I bet you can get a grp in 10 mins, exping damned fast and if you know how to play your class EVERY RvR group will want you in aswell.

 

[Gwandyn]

Well imo this game is about grouping and over 25 it get really hard to solo cause exp is soo slow so personaly i prefer support chars. Bards are allways wanted for groups as they can help groups alot (reduce down time, great speed, healing, occasional tanking) so i think it is a great class. Wizards are fun to if you dont mind dieing often... wizs really pack some damage and are really useful in RvR but then they to require a group to have any chance at all. I agree...if you want to solo i would recomend a theur or ranger. But as i said my personal experience is that it is impossible to solo at higher lvls but you are wellcome to prove me wrong .

 

[snox]

Mostly what is fun in PvE depends on what u like =)

I like to tank =) tryed a healer fun for a while but got bored =) Fighter classes can be fun in RvR to =)

But its all up to what u whant to do , Tank, Snipe, Be a evil mage etc

 

[Aeiedil]

personlayy i wanna see more casters that are around 1-shotting range

 

[old.Leel]

Well, if you want a durable class that has NO problems getting groups in both pve and rvr, then choose midgard healer. As a midgard healer, your job is healing, buffing, rezing, and the most important of all, crowd control. Crowd control will be your most effective weapon both in pve and rvr and your group will love you for it. Because of this, most healers go pacification, which is where you get the ae stun, ae mez, insta stun and insta mez. You also get a the all powerful mana regen. The one thing a healer CAN'T do though, is dish out damage. at level 41 I'm doing 30-50 damage or so, and that's WITH my self damage buff. But, midgard needs healers, and you won't be left soloing for long unless you're anon

Also, skalds are very fun to play with their speed. Also extremely fun in rvr. Always wanted in groups too, but as said, there are rather many skalds around. Hunters are also very fun to play, but might be hard to get a group.

 

[starblade]

Think granny is right ... there is no good or bad character to play. Even fighters can be fun

It depends on your personal look on the game and playing style. If you like to be close to the action or in the middle of it, you are more of a tank person. If you like dwindling with spells and effects, try a caster or minstrel type.

What you can do is look at e.g. the char builder at catacombs and see what character can do what on lvl xx. Write down the ones you like and try them out till lvl 15. Lvl 15 is not too hard to get and you will still get a fairly good insight in the class you are playing (it also adds to your insight into the game for each class which will only benefit later ). If you are in doubt, keep it a while ... 4 slots to play anyways and remember, you got to have fun at it or you'll never bring it to 50

 

[Flimgoblin]

They're all interesting... try a few out, see if you like the style.

The manual has some good descriptions of the classes - pick one you like the sound of far more likely to enjoy it than by picking one that someone says is good.

As to your question:
Friars are cool, quite unusual, but also quite good - both solo and in groups.

 

[deadparrot]

I got a theurgist as my main char, great soloing, and once u get pulsing blade-turn much sought after for groups.

RvR is good as long as i have a group, cloth armor and hardly any hitpoints means u'll die a lot tho.(ater 40 I noticed a bit more survivability)
The pbt is good against snipers, and gives u more of a chance to cast on attacking pple.
And of course its funny watching pple run away as ur pets chase them

Overall a good combination of soloing and group support.

I you do make a theurgist and get a group dont make pets, unless told too, i realised with my tank alt how annoying it is.
(seems to be the problem with all the low lvl theurgists i've met)

 

[Talifer]

"
The manual has some good descriptions of the classes - pick one you like the sound of far more likely to enjoy it than by picking one that someone says is good
"

Do not read the manual, it is one big lie from start to finish

I read the manual and chose the Mercenary because it was suppose to be the most offensive tank class. Damage over defense. Is it the most damaging? No! Does it have lower defense? Yes! Hmmmm....

If you want an easier time later on choose mind specced sorc or minstrel or cleric. You won't have a problem finding groups, most other classes will have problems and you'll find the game frustrating post level 40 when grouping becomes mandotary

Personally I think the Paladin is one of the better PvE classes, it has abilities to offer a group and can also solo fairly well, just don't expect to get very far in RvR (Until maybe Faith Healing comes in 1.50). I party with my Paladin girlfriend and her shield reduces our down time drastically, now she has slam I'm just plain leeching

Talifer

p.s. This is only Albion by the way, I've not been past level 15 anywhere else

 

[Flimgoblin]

I didn't say the manual tells you which class is uber... or whatever. In fact it's pretty damned innacurate all over

It does tell you what the class should sort of be.... Paladins are warriors of the church, losing some offensive power for group-helping stuff..

Mercenary - an irregular type - not the plate-wearing armsman, but a lighter armoured, faster type. Dual wielding weapons.

I'll admit our damage needs tweaked a little but we're still pretty much that

I find that if you go for a class for what it is theme-wise then you'll enjoy it far more than if you went
'ooh thats a wizard, they must be the most powerful things and be able to kill everything - I'll go one of them'


Pets:

I only object to theurgist pets if the theurgist in the group insists on summoning 5000 of them and then sit on their arse regenerating mana for a year (i.e. becoming totally useless).

The mage-type pets (ice ones? ones that cast spells anyway) are superb for pulling with. Monstie comes up and smacks it around the head, leave it to get a little bit of aggro, then send in the tanks.

 

[obacono]

Played an Armsman to lvl 35 and stopped to have fun with my Hibby Chanter alt.

The chanter is much more fun than the Tank and has proven to be not so bad in RvR (as a first test)..

I may go back to the tank occaisionally (if I can find groups)

 

[Aeiedil]

i have to say exploding midgets are actually great fun to play ive got an Enchanter alt, level 13, 12 mana, 4 enchantments, and its great fun wiping out whole groups at once

 

[old.Turath]

theurgist
speed
bt
earthbuff
pets
dd
root/mezz

 

[old.Braecia]

Currently I have played a Shaman up to lvl 30, a Shadowblade up to lvl 29 and a Runemaster up to lvl 15. I have done some rvr with the Shadowblade and the Shaman.

Shaman:

You never have to look hard for a group. People will like you for your bufs and heals.

PVE: You stand back and heal your group members. You cast the occasional group regen and also ress alot (if it goes bad). You can cast the occasional disease on a mob but usually the go down to fast.

RVR: You stand back and buf your friends. You try to heal them as much as possible and you cast group frig. You rezz alot (always). You can cast the occasional poison or erea effect disease spell. Most of you realmpoints are earned in groups, where your fighters and mages do the killing.


Shadowblade:

It is hard for you to group. People think you don't have anything to offer a group. Exping is slow.

PVE: You wait till the maintank did some damage on the monster. Then you whack away with garotte or similar styles. You do a lot of damage and usually outdamage the tanks. you are one of the main damage dealers and if done carefully a good asset to the group.

RVR: You can scout. You can inform your alliance where the enemy is and with how much numbers they are. You can sneak up to enemies that generally have low hp's (hitpoints, like mages or healers) and kill them instantly. you can sneak up to medium hp's enemies and backstab them and then fight them and hope you win.

You work for it yourself.


Runemaster:

The damagedealing mage class of Midgard. Can be well liked in groups but that depends if you have the runic fend spell (Spell that prevents one blow from doing damage)

RVE: You stand back and let tanks take the aggro. You debuff the monsters and blast away at them with dd spells. Or you debuff the monsters and constantly cast the runic fend spell to prevent your tank from getting hit.

RVR: Never done it myself but what i have seen from other runemasters is that the blast away at advancing enemies with bolts and dd's. They can also use area effect spells on a group of enemies to slowly get them all killed.

Realm points: You work for it yourself.

 

[thefatfriar]

Have to say Friars rock

Much as I like Aegis my tanks he's a bit limited hit stuff in groups get mezzed constantly in RvR gets a little dull after a while.

I have a lvl 30 Friar alt he's great in groups and can solo yellows easily and becos he can heal himself after each one there's very little downtime too. Never have any trouble getting a group as most groups have room for a tank or a healer and as a Friar you are both as needed giving you some nice variety.

I'm looking forward to taking him RvR (he's only lvl 30 atm) although not much chance anyone will think he's a caster as some of the other Friars seem to get mistaken for them.
After all any character called "Deepfat" could only be a Friar

 

[SilverHood]

who says tanks are boring in RvR?

I take my LvL 35 Thane to emain, have my 2 SB guildies watch my back, our runies hidden in the trees, accompanion by another 2 thanes and a sakld with speed song 5

First SB says inc stealth minstrel...... second prepares to backstab

minstrel destealths, SB's wack em, skalds and thanes charge while Runies bolt/nuke

I get rezzed by our healer

Great Fun

 

[thefatfriar]

Well yes they are fun at times it is nice to chop casters up who are higher lvl then you are BUT 90% of the deaths Aegis ever suffers are due to him being mezzed although to be honest 80% of those are my fault as I can't resist a full-frontal charge once I have a few beers inside me lol.

The reason my alt is a Friar is because by the time he gets to a decent lvl for RvR (he is 30 now) he will have an anti mezz ability which will help (I hope!) the Albs who are currently a tank heavy realm...

 

[Gworeloth]

I use a lvl 25+merc, and its really fun. If you think straight Armsman are too boring-mercs are great, u are more rare-dual wield, get a nice little short bow, have some little spell thingies, and are a good mix of both tank and mini scout.
Im thinkin of starting a bard on hib cus it sounds cool as my alt.
cool
cool
cool?

 

[old.Takahome]

In hib? Warden

At least in my case, I´ll prefer warden all the day, I´ve got a warden alt btw

Bards r more and more in hib now, and a group with 2 bards will prefer have a druid/mentalist instead. But wardens r always good, stack bubbles and tank, or heal a bit, puller, all but damage dealer that is (more than others but miss a lot).

U can solo quite well with warden, but u won´t be able to resist by all those r u groupped spam while soloing and with a warden the group downtime will reduce quite much, and that includ urself... anyway, make a warden, we´ve got already enough rangers

 

[gama]

I chose middy-shaman because the manual desribed it as a healing class also capable of poisoning and casting damage spells

they arent the primary healer, so no insta's or large heals or lvl 3 and 4 rezzes...

buffs are good (if you spec them, i didnt put to much in because i wanted cave magic for dmg, and mending for groups), but the dmg add buff is only useful for having hand wars at dull moments in a group

cave magic... well put it this way... they made a strike team to make this a viable line (and im speccing this to 46 :/ )

I really wish i had chosen the healer, they get insta heals, mana regen spell (conc one), mez, ae mez, insta mez, insta ae mez, stun, insta stun, ae stun, insta ae stun, root, self dmg buff, run buff, amnesia and some thing else...

The middy healer is probably the most viable grouping class you can get, able to reduce down time severly with the mana regen, handle croud control, even deal with exp leachers (all the tanks stop attacking and the healer amnesia's, the leacher gets agro, and dies)

pick the healer
(god knows middy could do with a few more)