V for Vendetta

[Dreamor]

Not sure what this is going to be like...

Some of the ad's are ok, but then some ad's are a little mis-leading

Anyone seen it? reviews?

 

[Yaka]

comic series/novel is preety damn good, woulda thought the guy who pld mark antony in rome woulda made a better V than agent smith.

tbh im suprised there not a fuss being kicked over this, prolly impoosible to make bad film out of the comics

 

[Strox]

i don't go to see it

 

[Tom]

eh?

 

[Uriel]

iirc Alan Moore has not only disowned the film but he's also refused to accept his share of the royalties.

Now, he's a notoriously cantankerous old man so perhaps he's not the best person to judge but, I think I'll wait for the reviews to come out despite being a massive fan of the original comic.

 

[DaGaffer]

iirc Alan Moore has not only disowned the film but he's also refused to accept his share of the royalties.

Now, he's a notoriously cantankerous old man so perhaps he's not the best person to judge but, I think I'll wait for the reviews to come out despite being a massive fan of the original comic.

Its getting good reviews, and considering its early eighties, anti-Thatcher/height of the Cold War sensibility, its stayed fairly faithful to the plot (apparently). The whole Alan Moore thing is complicated; he's disowned the film on the basis of an early script draft and because he disliked something that Joel Silver (producer) said about V in an interview; he hasn't even seen the film so I think it has to be viewed on its own merits. After all, he took the royalties from From Hell (I think he gave them to charity though), and that was shit

 

[Mauness]

although he didnt like the way the producer of "from hell" portrayed the character of johnny depp.

He also didnt like the "Extrordinary league of gentlemen" and said "it didnt follow the comic at all".

 

[Ch3tan]

They were both shit films though. Johnny Depps dodgy accent was the only thing worth watching From Hell for.

 

[Whipped]

I'll have to dig out my old copy of V and give it a read so I can be dissapointed when I see the film

In some ways I wish they'd make a really good version of Watchmen, but I'd hate to see a bad film get made by someone like Uewl Bowl or whatever he's called.

 

[DaGaffer]

I'll have to dig out my old copy of V and give it a read so I can be dissapointed when I see the film

In some ways I wish they'd make a really good version of Watchmen, but I'd hate to see a bad film get made by someone like Uewl Bowl or whatever he's called.

Terry Gilliam has the rights to Watchmen, which is why its been in Development Hell for the last fifteen years. Personally I don't think he'd be the right director for it anyway, and I also think Watchmen is too dense and multilayered to make into a single movie without dumbing it down too much. It would be great if it was an HBO miniseries; with modern CGI I doubt it would be more expensive to make than Rome.

 

[Talivar]

This was biggest zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ive seen in many years

 

[rynnor]

It departed from the graphic novel a lot but was true to the basic premise - pretty good really - I just wish V had been less chatty.

Worth seeing though and it still has political relevance today.

 

[Xtro]

Dear god, what a travesty.

Comic book = excellent, one of the very best (or *graphic novel* for fanbois).

Film = cack, and laughably clunky.

Americanised ridiculous view of British life (eggy in a basket, its all BOLLOCKSED UP guv, Brits pronouncing words in US English etc) - take away all references to facist state and anarchy, make Evey sound South African/Australian/NZ/mockney, put in a fucking LOVE STORY element ffs(?!), transpose anti-Bush lamearse WMD plot onto the Brits as theyre too scared to actually do a proper anti-Bush film set in the states (the Wachowskis), meh meh MEH!

The book is fantastic, why change the basics, truly cack.

I didn't like it btw

 

[ECA]

I liked the film, of course its caricatured. Our favourite swearword is bollocks and we all have art masterpieces in our secret house area thingymabob.

 

[rynnor]

Dear god, what a travesty.

Comic book = excellent, one of the very best (or *graphic novel* for fanbois).

Film = cack, and laughably clunky.

Americanised ridiculous view of British life (eggy in a basket, its all BOLLOCKSED UP guv, Brits pronouncing words in US English etc) - take away all references to facist state and anarchy, make Evey sound South African/Australian/NZ/mockney, put in a fucking LOVE STORY element ffs(?!), transpose anti-Bush lamearse WMD plot onto the Brits as theyre too scared to actually do a proper anti-Bush film set in the states (the Wachowskis), meh meh MEH!

The book is fantastic, why change the basics, truly cack.

I didn't like it btw

It was very close visually but the plot was heavily adapted - ignore the accents etc - its an american film so you arent going to get authentic britain.

However a fair chunk of the adaptation was inevitable I think - its easier to hint at things in a graphic novel in a way thats not possible on screen - plus the plot had to be simplified for the mass market and to fit in 2 hours on screen.

I must admit the initial scene made me cringe and I'm not sure why they changed it as they did but nonetheless the film as a whole was pretty good - just enjoy it as something else rather than film of the book.

 

[ECA]

Dear god, what a travesty.

Comic book = excellent, one of the very best (or *graphic novel* for fanbois).

Film = cack, and laughably clunky.

Americanised ridiculous view of British life (eggy in a basket, its all BOLLOCKSED UP guv, Brits pronouncing words in US English etc) - take away all references to facist state and anarchy, make Evey sound South African/Australian/NZ/mockney, put in a fucking LOVE STORY element ffs(?!), transpose anti-Bush lamearse WMD plot onto the Brits as theyre too scared to actually do a proper anti-Bush film set in the states (the Wachowskis), meh meh MEH!

The book is fantastic, why change the basics, truly cack.

I didn't like it btw

So when V says to evey "I love you" in the original comic ( chapter 7 if you want to know ) its not a love aspect?

Basically they jumbled the comics chapters up for the film, added some "bollocks" and made it a little more politically relevant. They did not take away all references to a fascist state/anarchy in the film either, I think you need to watch it again?

Xtro in "I read the original, the films shit/I have nostalgia".

 

[Escape]

This thread doesn't do the film justice. I don't doubt many have felt uneasy and refuse to make comparrisons between the fiction and reality.

If you're confident enough to look beyond the political message, V is quite entertaining.

 

[Sar]

Just watched it and thought it was excellent.

Still VERY relevant today. Moreso even.

 

[Yaka]

So when V says to evey "I love you" in the original comic ( chapter 7 if you want to know ) its not a love aspect?

Basically they jumbled the comics chapters up for the film, added some "bollocks" and made it a little more politically relevant. They did not take away all references to a fascist state/anarchy in the film either, I think you need to watch it again?

Xtro in "I read the original, the films shit/I have nostalgia".

the only gripe most peeps have with the film is in the books he a anarchist while in the film a freedom fighter dude


still not a bad film

 

[Tom]

Just watched it. Really enjoyed it. Never seen any books or comics.

I really enjoyed the dialogue, and the lighting was beautiful. The effects were pretty good too, they didn't take over the film in the way that they do just about every new release.

 

[Damini]

I find it a bit odd that it's all so relevent today, and yet they still hang the blame on an ancestory of the Conservative party. Would have been a bit more ballsy/appropriate/current to show it as Labours future. When the original comic was written, I'm sure it would have been far more accurate to attack the Tories, but surely in Blair's wonderful new world, with ID cards and lie led wars and bile and spew and corruption, linking the Torys to Big Brother style antics just made it feel like a weird PR trip by New Labour.

 

[Tom]

Seems ill-conceived if it was believed that a Tory government would ever seek to make government larger and more powerful. They've been trying to shrink the state for the last 40 years, something Labour are now reversing.

 

[ECA]

I find it a bit odd that it's all so relevent today, and yet they still hang the blame on an ancestory of the Conservative party. Would have been a bit more ballsy/appropriate/current to show it as Labours future. When the original comic was written, I'm sure it would have been far more accurate to attack the Tories, but surely in Blair's wonderful new world, with ID cards and lie led wars and bile and spew and corruption, linking the Torys to Big Brother style antics just made it feel like a weird PR trip by New Labour.

It was originally written with Margeret Thatcher in mind

 

[Damini]

It was originally written with Margeret Thatcher in mind

Yeah, I thought it was, it just seems a bit out of place to have it released now, and hailed as fitting and relevent to the times, and yet still level the blame at the Tories. I bet Labour's PR department did a little sex wee when they watched it. Would have been good to modernise it, or omit the reference and have a nuetral, un-named government party.