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old.Mincer

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err, I am running the Direct3d demo on a Matrox g400 Max dualhead 3d card, and for some reason it wont maximise, I've also tried reducing my windows res to coincide with that of the game, but I still see the frame/start bar, anything I can do to stop this?
 
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old.Paul B

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Have you installed DirectX 7 yet ?

I had the same problem till I remembered I needed to install that as well.

The next question is how do you get a decent frame rate under DX. Glide on my V2 gave me a frame rate around 60
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The same settings under DX on my TNT give 30.
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Not quite what I was expecting...

Looks like, despite what they say, the Unreal engine is intimately tied into Glide
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old.frankie

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ok here it is
me sys is amd k6-2 450 ( quite fast ? do i need faster?, help me plz ) 128 meg ram
i have a tnt2 ultra, creative version, and under dx i get about 25 average in most res's
i have just bought a v2 today as i tryed me mates out with ut and it was sweet, and i get about 40 + fps average, in low res, and about te same in 800 x 600.
what i want to know is " how the fek can a v2 out pace a tnt2 U?", and do i need to get something like a p3 or celly to get best outa games nowadays >?. can we have some frame rates plz, like <my sys> give me <fps> in <res> and <colour>.
will help as will make me sell things if i need a new sys.

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Hi Im using p2 400 128mb v3 3000
Im getting 90-100 fps 640 480
60 ish 800 600
45-50 1024 768
the above when there is not much action,
at 1024 it drops when it gets hectic to around 30 and on occasion to 20 but its never noticeable in fact it runs smoother
than unreal botmatch with my v2 (not tried it with v3 yet) the only advanced tweaks ive used are to disable z sync and set refresh to 85 hz in advanced game settings
(anybody Know if this overrides or toggles back settings in v3 desktop properties)
as far as g400 tnt2 etc dont they have to run glide in a d3d "wrapper" ie transpose
glide calls into d3d for the card to run it
surely this will slow it down considerably.
please abuse me if im talking out my arse
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I seem to remember about g200s (which i had)
needing a wrapper to run Q2, mine ran it in software which was shit and eventually I gave up on the promised open gl driver ever arriving and bought a v2
I may be being cynical but ut is sponsored by 3dfx! so presumably they made them make it work with 3dfx stuff first
Im sure that they will release more patches\upgrades with drivers for other cards
cos if it only works good on 3dfx
only 3dfx owners will buy it
you wouldnt buy a video card just to play a game would you?
Hang on I did! (v2 Q2)
and again (v3) it was a bargain !!! honest!!
i needed a free pci slot darling !!
(for a lan card) shh! dont tell her or she'll have my balls
my prob is i dloaded ut update, works fine and another map!
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updated gspy but cant get ping less than 400
Q2 servers ping ok, any ideas? will try again later
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old.[EoD]Riz

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I get an avg of 41fps local, 37fps online with my Creative TNT2u (o/clocked to max) & Celery 300a (o/clocked to 450MHz) in D3D 1024x768 32-bit mode. Which is less than a Voodoo rig but very playable... c'mon get those drivers sorted....
 
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mookie

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i got avg 27 FPS in 1600x1200 with a V3,k6-3 450 and 128mb....

not tried doing timedemo in any other es.. i'll do it in a bit i s'pose....

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mookie

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gah!! i pressed the fucking button twice!



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old.frankie

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how u do the timedmeo thingy then ??
im going to try some moree settings and i will report here with FULL report
wish me luck, danm u bitch
die 3dfx, longlive other stuff
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I did buy a card just to play UT
hehe, 64 quid for CL v2
good ?, mes mad
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old.frankie

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ok, here goes my results, might as well, spent enough time compileing them.

ill start with my system spec.
AMD k6-2 450 with 128 meg ram ( pc100 ), and an FIC SS7 mobo ( ATX ) ( 1 meg ), fugitsu 8.4 GB HDD and an Creative labs PCI 128.

creative labs TNT 2 Ultra ( 32 MB ) ( NOT O/C'ed )
creative labs Voodoo II ( 12 MB ) ( O/C'ed to 97 MHZ )
( im mr creative )
( monitor at 85HZ in all resolutions, helps smooth it all out )
ok here go's.

DIRECT 3D

TNT2 ( 16 BIT ) ( medium detail, medium skins, detail textures. )

640 x 480 31 FPS
800 x 600 28 FPS
1024 x 768 24 FPS

TNT2 ( 32 BIT ) ( medium detail, medium skins, detail textures. )

640 x 480 22 FPS
800 x 600 22 FPS
1024 x 768 20 FPS

As you can all see this is just plain and simply SHIT, No argueing.

3DFX

VOODOO II ( 16 BIT ) ( medium detail, medium skins, detail textures. )

640 x 480 36 FPS
800 x 600 32 FPS

VOODOO II ( 16 BIT ) ( high detail, medium skins, detail textures. )

640 x 480 34 FPS
800 x 600 31 FPS

Now ill evaluate this data. All these results were done useing the correct settings in UT and the latest drivers ( TO MY KNOLEDGE ).
The TNT2 was just plain silly, and V2 was sweet. Also useing the menus seemed very lagged and took a long time useing the direct 3d setting, where as the 3dfx setting was straight in there.

HOW I DID THE DEMO
ok ill make this simple, i loaded the level DM-PHOBOS and just ran around randomly around the whole level fireing randomly. I then recorded the average FPS result.
Plz could i have some more results useing the same technique or a better one, as im sure most people here would love to know how they fair.
Thanks.
LONG LIVE UT, AND GET THE FOOKING D3D SORTED.

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