useless fuckers

[tris-]

the bins were supposed to be emptied on wednesday. i noticed mine wasnt.

apparently the binmen could not wheel it to the automated truck because the lid was not closed flush. to be more specific, the lid is open with a gap of about 5cm. if the bag is pushed down the lid closes, you can even pull the bin and push the lid down AT THE SAME TIME.

what kind of useless lazy ***** do they employ? more importantly, why should we be charged full council tax if the service for the payment is not supplied? do they not see the predicament here.

they dont empty the bin.
the bin stays full.
there is no where for me to put my bin bags.
the bin is not emptied the next week because all the bin bags wont fit in.

so im now basically stuck with a full bin and about to enter the never ending loop detailed above.

add to it, the council wont come and empty the bin either. apparently the bin men have the authority over what they empty, the council cant make them empty the bin.

fucking bullshit~!
i think my only option is to enter the council office, legally, and dump all the bin bags in there. its not littering then either, or fly tipping or what ever.

 

[TdC]

never piss off a binman tris- it will come back to haunt you o0

 

[Uara]

damn rite, i mean they're also starting to complain if its too far away from the kerbBinmen refuse to take wheelie bin because more than one stride from kerb | Environment | The Guardian its completely fucking ridiculous!!!

 

[tris-]

well they arnt emptying the bin mate, what else can they do to fuck me about?

its just going to end up with a situation where the bin will stay outside permanently gathering bags. hopefully someone will complain and then theyl shift it.

 

[Ch3tan]

While it is a shit situation, teedles is right. Do not do anything that will piss off binmen. Ask your neighbours if they wouldn't mind taking some of your rubbish next week, and make sure your bin is properly closed for next week.

 

[tris-]

a weeks worth of waste fills the wheely bin. same for everyone else around here. there isnt anywhere else to put the bags except dump them outside next to the bins.

if i start putting bags in other bins, they wont close. then no ones bin will be getting shifted. if i just dump bags in the street can they prosecute? or pile them up ontop of the bin?

 

[Trem]

They are jobworths but.....why didn't you just crush the stuff down and close the lid yourself before you took the bin out?

It seems harsh to me that they didn't empty it and give you a warning about the lid like they did with me once, I now make sure its closed.

Chuck everything in black bin bags and simply take your rubbish to a local tip this week, ain't the end of the world.

 

[tris-]

the lid is literally open about 5cm. its hardly a hazard, its not going to injure anyone, he wont pull his back out with it. there is no reason not to take it, no reasonable reason anyway.

but why should i dump rotten shit into my car and drive 20 miles to get rid of it? surely for that id want a refund on the council tax or money for fuel.

 

[Dark Orb Choir]

i can remember the "real" binmen of the 1970's, they actually picked up a metal bin and put it on their backs and then emptied it themselves into the back of the bin wagon, none of this poncy auto lift shit

these were bins.....




real men picked them up
http://www.bins-n-benches.co.uk/bins-n-benches-images/bss-galvanised-dustbin.jpg

 

[bob269]

Our binmen are great, recently had the bathroom totally gutted and they took all the old stuff away, obviously we asked them in the morning as they turned up and not just left it on the pavement

 

[Sar]

i think my only option is to enter the council office, legally, and dump all the bin bags in there. its not littering then either, or fly tipping or what ever.

Erm, no. You can't actually enter the office "legally", without being asked into the premises. Unless they have a customer reception, where members of the public can come in then if you enter the premises you are in fact trespassing, as it's private property.

Secondly, you would get done for dumping/fly-tipping. There's no two ways about it. Then you'd be up in court.

Same if you put all your bags out on collection day, especially if your local council operates a no side-waste policy, as many do.

The reason the bin lid has to be down, is because if the lid catches on the ram on the back of the lorry, then the bin can and indeed does fall off before it tips, potentially injuring the members of the squad if it falls back on top of them. They would not be going beyond their rights to turn round and sue you.

It's in your own interests to comply, as I know more than most what can happen if you don't. Trust me, you don't want to piss off your local council. They are also well within their rights to refuse to empty your bin ever again if you're a problem resident. I've seen it happen.

If you need a bigger bin, then I'm sure the council will either provide you with a bigger recycling bin, or a bigger domestic waste bin (small size is 120 litres, standard size is 240 litres, and the biggest one is 360 litres in size).



Guess what I do for a living?

 

[Tom]

Did you know the reason why bins used to say "no hot ashes" was because people would regularly empty the ashes from their coal fires into the new rubber bins. On the older metal ones this didn't matter, but the newer ones would melt.

There you go. Learn something every day on here. Oh yeah, binmen work for the council. No more explanations are required.

 

[Tom]

as it's private property.

I've often wondered how buildings paid for by constituents can become private property.

 

[Sar]

I've often wondered how buildings paid for by constituents can become private property.

Usually they're leased buildings, or built on land leased off a private landowner.

Oh and your rates only pay for stuff like public services, such as bins, street cleaning and such. They don't pay for council buildings.

 

[tris-]

so what do i do with my rubbish then. i cant leave it outside. i cant put it in the bin. they wont empty the bin. ill have to pay more money to travel to the tip and back.

what youre saying is you must pay youre council moneys, but they dont have to give anything back if they dont feel like it.

fucking marvellous.

btw about it falling off and killing everyone. 5cm is nothing. youd have to tip the bin to near verticle for it to open further from that angle.

 

[Scouse]

Buy a gun. Shoot them in the face. Job done.

 

[TdC]

...steal their truck, start a company that always picks up the trash...always. even if it's burning dead bodies and barrels with chemical waste. laugh as myriads of people flock to your service. mobilize your forces, focus and take over the country!


REVOLUSHONS!! REVOLUTIONS!!!1 VIVA EL PRESIDENTE!!1

 

[Sar]

If it IS 5cm, then yes, that's shit. I work for the Waste Collection department in Belfast City Council, and our squads would have lifted that without blinking. But you wanna see some of the things residents of Belfast expect them to lift. Some of them really do take the piss.

Bins filled so high that you can't even get the bin lid upright never mind closed. Then they have a shitload of bags put out alongside it. And the thing is, these people inevitably don't recycle, which is where the problem comes from.

I've also seen brown (compostable stuffs) bins packed, with trees in them. I kid you not, a full size tree in the fucking bin, which the resident expected the boys to throw on the back of the lorry!

In my house we recycle as much as we can (tbh Mrs Sar is a lot more enthusiastic than me), but our local council (Newtownabbey) only collect our dry recyclables bin once every 6 weeks, so inevitably we have extra waste as well, but Newtownabbey operate a no-side waste policy (although the squad that does our bin is fairly ok about giving them extra bags to throw on), so we're in a similar position to yourself tris. Belfast City Council do the same types of bins, and collect the DR bins once a fortnight, which is how it should be, and it's been more than once I've complained to the Mrs about the shit frequency of dry recyclable collections.

 

[Sar]

...steal their truck, start a company that always picks up the trash...always. even if it's burning dead bodies and barrels with chemical waste. laugh as myriads of people flock to your service. mobilize your forces, focus and take over the country!


REVOLUSHONS!! REVOLUTIONS!!!1 VIVA EL PRESIDENTE!!1

Heh, then go broke 6 weeks later when the EU fines you £100 per tonne of waste not diverted from landfill that could've been.



Oh the joys of working in Government

 

[Gumbo]

Your 'only open 5cm's' obsession is puzzling me. Are the binmen meant to carry a guage around with them to assess if the lid is open beyond some pre determined safe limit? The safe limit is clearly that the lid must be shut, from what Sar says, and you must have been living on a different planet not to see a bunch of news stories lately about this very same issue.

I think it's quite reasonable for them to refuse to take a bin with the lid ajar, they have to know where the line is to be drawn and what would be simpler than lid closed = empty it, lid ajar = don't empty it?

For what it's worth we have a great relationship with our binmen. A decent tip at Christmas helps, as does sending the Mrs. out in a skimpy robe to ask if they wouldn't mind taking that extra cardboard away....

Maybe you should get yourself one?

 

[Sar]

TBH it does sound like they were being a bit jobsworthy. Like I said earlier, 95% of the 120 or so staff we have under us would have lifted it without blinking. There are some arsey bastards who wouldn't walk the length of themselves, but you'll get them in any job, not just binmen.

 

[MYstIC G]

The reason the bin lid has to be down, is because if the lid catches on the ram on the back of the lorry, then the bin can and indeed does fall off before it tips, potentially injuring the members of the squad if it falls back on top of them. They would not be going beyond their rights to turn round and sue you.

Logic dictates that it's the responsibility of the bin men to properly and safely use the system provided. There are many other options here, they are just lazy fucks. They almost work to rule in reality and like most things the rules are written by twats to nanny the retarded and force those with some brain power back down into the intellectual gutter.

In reality however, how fucking pathetic is it that this is a topic of discussion, is a bin really the most important thing in your lives?

 

[TdC]

Heh, then go broke 6 weeks later when the EU fines you £100 per tonne of waste not diverted from landfill that could've been.



Oh the joys of working in Government

my beautiful revolotion! broked by the man

 

[Bullitt]

At the end of the day they're cleaning up other peoples shit. I too would have a rod up my arse if I did that job, this is their way of trying to wrestle some sort of worth out of their job.

Kick them in the knacker bag.

 

[tris-]

TBH it does sound like they were being a bit jobsworth.

well mate its not liek weve got a fuckin bath tub or something stuck in the top of it. the lid simply sticks up a small amount due to the way the bin bag has been filled.

and to who ever was being a smarmy ****. no, the bin isnt the most important thing our lives. but if you pay £1,500 a year, youd expect to get your bin emptied.

my apologise though if council tax is not expensive for you. obviously its ok for you to fuck off over a grand a year and not give a shit if you get something in return? maybe when the council force upon you the prospect of rotting shit all over, you probably woudlnt care either.

 

[phazey]

When binmen were real men.

 

[Trem]

but if you pay £1,500 a year, youd expect to get your bin emptied.

Fuck me, you live in a mansion? What band is that, D?

£1500 a year and I would want them to rim me each week as well tbh.

 

[Deebs]

I pay over 1200 quid a year for a 3bed semi. Band D.

 

[Trem]

Well we were band C for a 2 bed semi which was around £1100 a year they then dropped us to band B and gave us a cheque for a grand for our over payment

I thought tris was up north, do the bands work like that, for instance Deebs I would of thought yours would of been loads higher because of where you live. Does it work like that or are the bands the same all over?

 

[Deebs]

Don't forget that banding was done a long time ago and apparently is subject to review. My house is located in the south east of England, in Aldershot, which the Daily Mail has named 1 of the top 5 places to invest in England.

In fact we now have the largest Health Centre walk-in thing, they spent millions on it and it opened August. The Army has finally started selling land back to Rushmoor so Aldershot can now start expanding and indeed lots of new homes are popping up everywhere. When they reband I will get shafted I know it.

Now, I hate paying my council tax. The only thing I gain value from is the emptying of my waste bin. Now before all the council lovers tell me about the other services let me list stuff:

1. Roads. My car is taxed for the upkeep of the roads but no, the government keeps most of the tax, gives a little to the council and says to them "increase council tax to pay for the roads in your area".
2. Emergency services. Agree on this one, I don't mind paying for these folks and would pay more if I knew the money went to them (esp the fire and ambulance services)
3. Library? Shutup, last time I used a library I was in School.
4. Swimming pools. Eh? They are not free yet I pay a tax and an entry fee. Last time I used one was years ago.
5. Street lighting. My car provides all the light I need to drive safely. My bike has lights on to provide adequate lighting.

Council tax is bollox. At least let me have the option of paying for the things I want and not the crap that you want to create. Then if I want to use it, charge me. ie make the system modular.

/rant off.