US Courts Can Get It Right Sometimes

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Stazbumpa

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They always want someone to blame except themselves.

The kids shot people.
With guns, not computer games.

Personally, I reckon remove the guns and they have far less chance of committing the crime. Or at least they would've killed far less people with, say, a kitchen knife before they were overpowered and had the shit kicked out of them.
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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...

Not gonna happen...

They love their guns.
 
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old.youngstar

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The yanks seem to think they don't have to be held responsible for there own actions it's always someonelse's fault. Unfortunately the UK legal system seems to be slowly going this way as well. I have read of skate parks having to close because they can't get insured, because too many time someone tries to do some move and end up breaking something, and then the nice Nothing to pay if you don't win you case solicitor pops up and takes the park to court.

:eek: Gosh is it me or does that read like a rant?
 
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old.Vanguard

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Its true, everyone over here always looks for an excuse to blame their own stupidity on.


It was Mcdonalds fault, the coffee was too hot, Never mind the fault that I was stupid enough to DRIVE with it between my LEGS...


Shit like that really irritates me


Its the Video Games/Wresling's fault, because I don't have the brains/attitude/iniative to raise my children correctly...


This pisses me off even more, cause now only are you stupid, but you make your kids stupid too...

:/
 
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old.Plain Jane

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damn right. other people are not responsable for ones stupidity
 
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caLLous

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The family also sued producers of video games such as Acclaim Entertainment, Atari Corp. and Nintendo's Nintendo of America unit, saying the two young men were unduly influenced by the games.
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Nintendo?? :rolleyes:
 
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Sar

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Apparantly before shooting his victims he went round bouncing on all their heads.
 
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throdgrain

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Its very much the american attitude really, it must be someone elses fault.
They simply cannot beleive they're not going to win all the time. Take this recent thing in afghanistan. They lose 10 soldiers or something and omg its a disaster. So they go back and blow the fuck out of them, from about 10 miles away no doubt, then go off telling everyone how great they are.
Or the bit in the black hawk down book where the soldiers simply refuse to go in to get their comrades. Can you imagine british soldiers telling their sargents, no we aint going in there we may get killed !
Having said that, whats all this about people suing governments for post traumatic shock cos they fought in the gulf ?? Wtf they are soldiers for fucks sake ! "the gun made a big bang and it frightened me !"
 
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raw.

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Money grabbing twats, good job the court threw it out.
 
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xane

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"Blame culture" is a result of having a secure community, it comes with the territory, if we strive to have a civilization that doesn't go around killing each other then you nedd to give people some redress for their ancestral urges to "get even".

I'd rather have differences settled in court than "pistols at dawn", (and I'm not a lawyer either) :)

Where it goes wrong is when people start using the same legal system to sue public organisations to make money for themselves. A recent debacle happened in Hackney, London, a borough known for its chronic cash shortage, someone sued the council when they removed his 40K community grant due to cashflow problems, he won £1 million, which is a small disaster for a borough in such financial problems.
 
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Sar

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I'd rather have the pistols at dawn approach.

50% chance of getting rid of a few twats has no downside imo. Well aside from the 50% that live that is.

*curses*

Foiled again!

Bah!
 
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throdgrain

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They used to call it grass before breakfast.
Because you met at dawn, usually in a park, and there was a fair chance of one of you inspecting the grass very closely indeed :)
 
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Sar

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If it had been me it wouldn't have been cos I was shot, it'd be cos I ducked and hit the deck when the count got to 2 paces.

:p
 
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Munkey-

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thodgrain. unless you understand the post traumatic shock then you cant slag it off. go be in a war, in a place you've never been to, at night, where your out there with a few mates defending. knowing somebody out there wants to kill you, seeing your friends around you dying....wondering when your number is up
 
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Wij

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Yes, but that's what you're paid for. If you don't think you'll like it don't join the army. You know the risks. You may die and you may see some very unpleasant things. Nobody tried to hide this fact from recruits but they still signed up.
 
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Munkey-

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so? most of my generation has known the risks. my great grandfather knew the risks. my grandfather knew the risks, my uncle knew the risks. yet they all got affected by it all.


edit: but i still think that most of em shouldnt sue. only the ones with due reasons.
 
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Wij

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If you know the risks and sign-up then you should have signed awat the right to sue unless the army is particularly negligent in your treatment. Sure, there are some deserving cases but if you've been given proper counselling and still have problems then it's not the army's fault. It's the risk you take. Some ppl obviously don't judge the risk well enough and plenty of peeps before the gulf war thought they had virtually no chance of seeing any action. They made a bad decision.
 
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Stazbumpa

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I fail to see how blame can be attached for something like PTSD. Its a war, things go bang and the only people you can really blame are the guys you are fighting.

But then you are supposed to be killing them, so I suppose that would even it up. The whole point of having an army is that they are better trained and know how to deal with loud and confusing situations. Thats what basic training does, its supposed to weed out the ones who can't hack it.
 
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xane

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I think the original decisions about legal action for PTSD were based on the theory they were caused by injections from anti-NBC drugs and handling radioactive materials, it has only recently been established that maybe it was just good old "shell shock" that was to blame.

Army personel have been subject to "testing" on many occasions, I recall a friend of my mother telling me how he volunteered for an army exercise which end up placing him next to an atomic explosion, and that was during national conscription, considering the past treatment of soldiers as guinea pigs its no wonder many are tempted to resort to legal action.
 
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old.Vanguard

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Just remember, Don't generalize about Americans, its just a few who are idiots, and they get all the press,

After all, Wheres the story when a person spills hot coffee on them selfs and hits them self on the head and says IDIOT. and thats all there is.......
 
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Munkey-

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speaks the american.


we dont belive you for a minute sonny-jim
 
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old.Vanguard

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LOL

well, its true, I have spilt hot coffee on myself before, and I wasn't like,

OMG ITS MCDONALDS FAULT, THEIR COFFEE WAS TOO HOT!!



I was like, Damn, Keith, that was a pretty bad place to put a cup of coffee while you were driving, you ididot, don't do that again....
 
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Munkey-

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what worries me is the fact that you put the coffee against your balls in the first place.........bloody americans and their fetishes
 
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old.Vanguard

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not balls, I was holding it on my right leg..(I am not THAT stupid)

I was holding it on my right leg....:) and hit a bump, and it fell and spilled coffee all over my pants, pretty much from the mid thigh down to the knee, hurt like hell....
 
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Munkey-

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ok then. you were activating your erogenous zones

jeez
 
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old.Vanguard

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Originally posted by Munkey
jeez
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Ok, Nitpicking done

Proceed with normal Americans are stupid and ignorant thread...
 
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Munkey-

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jeez = jesus = a blasphemy in my terms. not my fault americans have to go and steal everything

*cough*rugby*cough*americanfootball*cough*
 
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