"uber/l337" guilds from our pov

[Gilead^^]

reallistically i gave up the game a few weeks ago and ill log in about once a week to say lo to m8s etc,but what im seeing by reading these forums is the discontent that the "average" hib has for these new age guilds.

i dunno where the bloody problem is tbh,as far as i see it all these guilds do is go around in a tight knit group all day....no probs here right,that is unless theres some rule im unaware of regarding compulsory grping methods....

after a while playing in a grp where everybody knows there place and tactics for a battle like the back of there hand a regular mix and match grp that normally has a weak link or 2 in the form of a bad player or an abundance of non-grp friendly characters<like it or not the sterotypical classes make the best grps> will seem naturally inferior so i presume that they tend not to join them as much<speaking personally here>

this constant grouping enforces the close knit community that is your guild and make the game more enjoyable for the players involved....from where im standing it seems that many ppl seem to have a jelousy factor or something<gonna get flamed for that one>

just ffs stop moaning at these members who whiched to enrich the game for themselves by becoming part of a friendly and well functioning enviroment and get on with the game yourselves

 

[censi]

Hi team

 

[Erekrose]

Do we need another thread about this?

 

[Novamir]

ofc we do!

 

[karlophin]

Originally posted by censi
Hi team

hey big boy!

 

[elvencaster]

It's natural for people to not like change, the same thing's happened to TD.. Virtually all level 50's have left the guild to seek out guild's with high RvR activety. I don't see how you can't understand why people get upset and angry because over this. I don't know about the other guild's, but TD was like a big family before the RvR only guilds came along. Now alot of the time the gc is dead, the once friendly and enjoyable atmosphere that the guild had, has virtually gone.

For some, yes, there might be a little jealousy over it.. But most of all it's because these RvR guilds are destroying the older and more family like guilds. This isn't a moan, just trying to convey the reasons as to why people are complaining about what's going on at the moment.

As I said though, people hate change and in a month or so when this has all died down things will probably go back to normal. Just a shame to see so much conflict in what was once a very peaceful and friendly realm.

-Elvish

 

[kirennia]

peaceful and friendly?!?!?!?!!?

THIS IS A WAR DAMNIT!!!!!!!



p.s. ok, 5am, time for me to sleep now

 

[Faeldawn]

Every thread ends up in 1337 guild flaming session, why start another one??!!??!!??!!

Its been done to death, for the love of god, let it lie!!

 

[wisewords]

maybe gilead, people are sick of people like yourself making grps and then leaving for the lame excuse of a guild grp.

Or maybe its because i was in your grp once, the only one from a different guild. I don't think i played bad infact i kept u alive in my small way. That did not stop me from being disbanded from your group for a guild friend.

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by Gilead^^
reallistically i gave up the game a few weeks ago

then why start a new "1337 hax rvr whore guild" thread ?

uke:

Guess bored to be at home and watch the snow falling down.

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by wisewords
That did not stop me from being disbanded from your group for a guild friend.

Sometimes I get invites from Tyka to run along VNG, but if a
guildy arrives I have to leave - no hard feelings about it.

There is no discussion about it - since I tag along to have fun
and they play it seriously.

RvR Guild Groups are like events - and you only fill gaps if noone
around - and as not guild member it's certain that u have to forfeit
your spot.

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by Gilead^^
abundance of non-grp friendly characters<like it or not the sterotypical classes make the best grps>

Like it or not, your wrong. And the reason for your mistake, you gave yourself ...

Originally posted by Gilead^^
a regular mix and match grp that normally has a weak link or 2 in the form of a bad player

You need to play with people of all classes that know how to play their class, rather than assume a group is best with x, y and z, just cos you've yet to see a well played ranger/ns, a high regrowth, low nurture bard, a druid with a nice pet but not so good buffs, a light/ench enchanter ...... with a good player behind the wheel. Many classes seem to get specced similarly, sometimes cos thats what is best, sometimes cos thats what everyone else seems to do, but sometimes cos thats the easiest spec to play and the person behind the wheel isnt much good at concentrating, reacting quickly, remember roles, tactics, or anything for that matter.
Off topic I know, but its misguided comments like this that alienate a whole section of the realm by making people think unless you follow the norm with all the other sheep, your a gimp.

 

[Tyka]

Lary i always tell you that you can join for x time of runs, but when a guildie comes online they will take your place, its not like i just tell you "Piss of Lary, guildie INC" out of the blue.

I myself have been told to leave groups cause they rather take a guildie instead of me, im fine with it.

Here is how i see it, if you stand in ligen and we are not full group, i invite you to group so you can get some rps til our guildie gets online, when he gets online you have to leave, at least i did you a favour and you did not have to stand in ligen yelling "LFG", learn to appreciate it.

Just because someone invite you to their group does not mean that the group leader have to write a contract and follow your rules about how things should be.

Gil, next time let him rot in ligen.

 

[Alkoran]

/open offtopic
These forums are a place for discussion upon matters of interest to those who play the game "Dark Age of Camelot" requesting that a conversation be ended because it no longer interests you is rather selfish, some people have issues they which to raise and discuss with others.
If you do not wish to read further on the subject, do not open and read threads which by their name display themselves to be obviosly related to this, and if you do not wish them to appear so often near the top of the thread list, do not waste time typing a post conveying a view which you have betrayed by posting it.
/close offtopic

RvR guilds are drawn between two desires:

A desire to assist their realm become famous and be known as good people.

A desire to test their skills it the most matched of combat, enjoy the company of close friends and have the piece to focus.

This is not easy

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by Tyka
Lary i always tell you that you can join for x time of runs, but when a guildie comes online they will take your place, its not like i just tell you "Piss of Lary, guildie INC" out of the blue.

I myself have been told to leave groups cause they rather take a guildie instead of me, im fine with it.

Here is how i see it, if you stand in ligen and we are not full group, i invite you to group so you can get some rps til our guildie gets online, when he gets online you have to leave, at least i did you a favour and you did not have to stand in ligen yelling "LFG", learn to appreciate it.

Just because someone invite you to their group does not mean that the group leader have to write a contract and follow your rules about how things should be.

Gil, next time let him rot in ligen.

Tyka, you got it wrong !!
I understand that I have to leave if a guildie turns up - np with that !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tyka]

Uhm sorry i forgot to write that i tell you BEFORE you join, that means i warned you about it will happen, wich you did not say in your previous post

 

[old.Laryssa]

i made many RPs with VNG and I enjoyed each trip
count me in as willing gap filler

 

[Tyka]

yep /afk rox............ kidding!

 

[angara-ffs]

Don't be fooled by the plats that I got
I'm still, I'm still Lary from the block
Used to have a little, now I have a lot
No matter where I go, I know where I came from ...

LMAO

Gil, next time let him rot in ligen

Who is he anyways?

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by Tyka
yep /afk rox............ kidding!

sadly i lost my screenie - was about that:

DEATH SPAM - killed by Laryssa

Morias: Nice Dot
Laryssa: I have no Dots - only nukes
Morias: omfg

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by wisewords
maybe gilead, people are sick of people like yourself making grps and then leaving for the lame excuse of a guild grp.

Or maybe its because i was in your grp once, the only one from a different guild. I don't think i played bad infact i kept u alive in my small way. That did not stop me from being disbanded from your group for a guild friend.

'lame excuse'

'hey sorry guys, I wanna play with my friends and my usual group of people in RvR, so I can win and have fun and go to sleep with a smile on my face'

or

'hey guys, lets go to emain once more and die real fast, so you can yell at each other for why you died, so I can go to sleep pissed off'

People enjoy success, and like to win, even moreso with friends and guild mates, flying the same colours.

Guild groups are not a 'lame excuse', I mean, what the hell do you expect?
100% commitment for people to stay in your group, until when?

People shouldn't leave for a guild group you say, well, I'd like to know when you think people should leave.

 

[old.Laryssa]

never - you put them in vault before you log

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


'lame excuse'

'hey sorry guys, I wanna play with my friends and my usual group of people in RvR, so I can win and have fun and go to sleep with a smile on my face'

or

'hey guys, lets go to emain once more and die real fast, so you can yell at each other for why you died, so I can go to sleep pissed off'

Don't care if I die with strangers or friends (still possible to get the arse with friends too, just we tend to restrain ourselves more) Hibernian grass is the best there is, much prefer it to dodgy yellow Midgard snow and the turd covered lawns of Albion
Sure I saw a burnt car near Excalibur too, mucky lot them Albs.

 

[Ziva]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch

People shouldn't leave for a guild group you say, well, I'd like to know when you think people should leave.

People should leave a group whenever they like but imho it's pretty lame when people leave a group after like 30 mins of group forming in Innis, finally getting a balanced group, making the trip far in EZ and making one pull by saying "thanx for group peeps but i need to join my guildies".

Sure u can join ur guildies whenever u want but when it takes about 1 hour to form a group at higher levels u can't expect people to understand this reason for leaving them after all the efforts of forming a good group. When u know a guild event might be coming up u can cause a lot of problems by telling your group when u join them; i do this when i know upfront and i never experienced any people getting mad at me whenever i had to leave them. And besides... when u tell at start u give people a chance to deceide if they rather look for someone else or take u risking the fact u will leave them.

And as for people disbanding a group for a guildmember; whenever u have been told at start it's really your own choice if u want to come or not... unfortunatelly not everyone does this and i heard stories from various people who just got disbanded by the GL without even a word because a fellow guild member came along.

 

[Tyka]

Heh ziva that is totally different, u cant compare rvr to pve, in pve u just need some "certain" classes and it realyl have nothing to do with guild group or so, i been through this alot that ppl leaving xp groups when u entered EZ or something, that pisses me off those ppl should stay in CF fins rest of their life.

However the story part about ppl just disbanding others is, just as you said, a story, i heared alot of stories about big bad badgers too.

 

[Ziva]

Why is it totally different then Tyka? Wouldn't u prefer to stay in a group with the same people for a larger amount of time in RvR then? I mean when emain get's boring u can deceide to go to Odin or something.

I know i would prefer this above having to look for people at DL all the time to refill the group. Sure u can't expect people to RvR for the same amounts of time they usually spend XP'ing in EZ or CF or something... but i really think staying with the same people in a group for a longer period of time gives u a certain advance in both RvR and XP (provided u don't have people who really don't know how to play in it offcourse). But maybe that's just my personal opinion then.. i could be wrong offcourse.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Because in RvR, a run can last 5 minutes, or 5 hours, whereas in PvE, it's until everyone gets a decent amount of xp or are wiped.

You can't go to warshades then 2 minutes later the warden says 'sorry guys, i gotta go', thats not on.. but in RvR, it's more flexible, you don't NEED a full group of people and certain classes to win, indeed you can win with half a group, or at least have some damn good fights.

In PvE you are going for XP, in RvR, you're just going to kill some people for fun, or for others, RP for their next RA.

The big thing for me, about getting to 50 and having what I want for equipment etc, is I wouldn't have to spend hours and hours online trying to get an xp group.. this is the good thing about RvR, you can just pickup and go.. and it's even more easier in 'RvR guilds', since I can log on and ask for a spot.. and I am given some indication as to if there is room, or if there is a time I can come back.. isn't that great? I don't have to waste time hanging around for groups anymore at ligen, at fins, at ez, at df?

I don't need to spend so much time anymore waiting, and that's a good thing.

 

[Gilead^^]

whoops forgot to check forums for a few days

well basically i agree totally with Tyka and Tzee and dont have much to add from my original statement

but wisewords pm me ingame and tell me your nick or summit cuase tbh i never remember doing that and it may have been somebody else

ohh and Angaras a major n00b

 

[Eleasias]

Originally posted by Ziva
Why is it totally different then Tyka? Wouldn't u prefer to stay in a group with the same people for a larger amount of time in RvR then? I mean when emain get's boring u can deceide to go to Odin or something.

I know i would prefer this above having to look for people at DL all the time to refill the group. Sure u can't expect people to RvR for the same amounts of time they usually spend XP'ing in EZ or CF or something... but i really think staying with the same people in a group for a longer period of time gives u a certain advance in both RvR and XP (provided u don't have people who really don't know how to play in it offcourse). But maybe that's just my personal opinion then.. i could be wrong offcourse.

Wow, no shit? That's the reason "RvR guilds" are formed, duh! In guild groups everyone knows each other and has played with them before. I dont like RvR at all if isnt with LA, tbh I wouldnt be playing this game if I didnt have a competent guild :>