Troy

[Wij]

I couldnt help but think gladiator. The music and the whole approach of the film.

ACting was ok, nothing stunning about the film really, except for a) all the ships b) the first battle

we started laughing in the cinema. Pitt was 'our boy' ronaldo, whilst hector was schivchenko. Trojans = Milan Greeks = Real Madrid.

after first fight half time, then a substitute is made with achilles coming on. And the bit at the start where achilles kills the hero, the little 1-2 sidestep thing he did, screamed footballer at me.

I should stop playing football....

...and the acting was suckeh

 

[Meatballs]

All the acting apart from Bana's & Cox's is supposed to be limp, the story is supposed to deviate from the Illiad considerably (a great story, shame I was forced to read it in Latin at school!), the fight scenes are extremely poor (apart from the showdown between Hector & Achillies), and it's been made totally one dimensional (Greeks = good, Trojans = bad)!

I thought the way they followed both the Greeks and the Trojan story lines made it hard to pick a 'side' to go on, although you did feel for the Trojan heroes more. If they had used Sean Bean a lot more in the Odysseus role then you could perhaps empathise more with the Greeks, who really only had heroes that were a bit cold hearted. Unfortunatly they didn't and Sean has only a few lines to bring out a major character, and even he cant pull that off.

I quite liked the fight scenes, the way achilles fights, and especially the Hector/Achilles fight was kind of a new sword fighting that I hadn't really seen before in a movie. Some of the infantry moves were also quite decent, the myrmidons phalanx, and the trojans counter advance.

Overall a watchable movie, but could have been better with more involvement of Bean, and moved away from Pitt, who gives quite a wooden performance. There is no epic music, no special fx that must be seen or awes you like the first time you see some scenes in gladiator etc, and although you do feel for some characters, you dont really get enough time with them all to really feel for them (at least I didn't - some of the girls I went with were crying at places).


P.S. Goto the toilet before entering the movie, and dont take a large cup of coke in... My mistake!

 

[SawTooTH]

Not as bad as I thought . Initially I was put off going reading some of the earlier threads.

I thought it could have been shorter. Some of the funeral scenes should have been cut.

I thought Helen wasn't really up to it neither was Paris, though they gave him a bow and arrow so he must have been happier with that after LOTR.

Not a DVD buy.

 

[Xtro]

Still haven't seen this. Undecided as to whether to go this afternoon...such is the trauma of life!

 

[Ch3tan]

I would go see it Xtro, the individual performances are not great. But they are watchable. You find yourself feeling for their tragedy, but as Meaty said, not enough.

Its not a bad film, its just not the classic it could have been.

 

[Cask]

Ultra spoiler alert.

Spoiler

Paris and Hector were both supermegaultra losers right from the start, and they should have both died horribly early on imo. That huge guy right at the start who got killed in 2 seconds by Achilles, what a waste! He looked like he could have pulled down Troy's walls by himself shame that they killed him off so soon. Also the Greek with the big hammer died in a bit of a crap way.

Other than that the fight scenes were pretty amazing, but wasn't much else to it. Still annoyed that Paris didn't die squealing though. Seriously, he started a war that got most of his family and people killed and his home destroyed, he pansied out of a duel and held onto his brothers leg while his opponent got killed dishonourably and then right at the end he shot Achilles from behind. Farking pansy should have been put in a pit with spikes with the big guy from the start, that would have been a better ending.

 

[Xtro]

Finally got round to seeing it last weekend.

I nearly fell asleep twice and considered walking out about halfway through. Not because I thought it was terrible but because I was so INDIFFERENT to it all .

Bland stuff I'm afraid. I didn't think Pitt was as wooden/bad/wtf as some reviewers have said though.

Eric Bana was good as Hector, the fella has natural gravitas.

 

[Stazbumpa]

Bana got Hector pretty correct and was excellent. Bean was good but criminally underused. The love story of Helen and Paris was conspicous by its absence and I spent most of the movie wanting the snivelling little shit to die.
Helen came across as a dippy tart that I certainly wouldnt fight and die for. Peter O'Toole was over the top and good to watch as a result. Pitt's Achilles was trying to be too much like Bana's Hector, whereas in the actual story Achilles the invicible killer of men was the foil to the noble and honourable Prince Hector of Troy.

The gods played no part in this movie, which is like having the Easter Story without Jesus being the son of god to be honest. As a result its broken and out of context and feels like the Hollywood suits were cashing in on LOTR's computer armies. And why does the seige last about a fortnight? I thought it was 10 years?

I saw it in America and the audience were actually laughing at some of what I presumed were supposed to be serious bits of the script. Jackson took liberties with LOTR in order for the film to translate to the screen, but the love he had for the story is present in every single moment of those 3 films despite the bits that were missed out.
Troy sucks because it just stinks of studio intervention and the makers not paying attention to the story. The liberties they took destroyed all context of the events and lead to a watered down, uncharismatic, watch-once-and-forget movie.

So no, I didn't like it.

 

[WPKenny]

Bana got Hector pretty correct and was excellent. Bean was good but criminally underused. The love story of Helen and Paris was conspicous by its absence and I spent most of the movie wanting the snivelling little shit to die.
Helen came across as a dippy tart that I certainly wouldnt fight and die for. Peter O'Toole was over the top and good to watch as a result. Pitt's Achilles was trying to be too much like Bana's Hector, whereas in the actual story Achilles the invicible killer of men was the foil to the noble and honourable Prince Hector of Troy.

The gods played no part in this movie, which is like having the Easter Story without Jesus being the son of god to be honest. As a result its broken and out of context and feels like the Hollywood suits were cashing in on LOTR's computer armies. And why does the seige last about a fortnight? I thought it was 10 years?

I saw it in America and the audience were actually laughing at some of what I presumed were supposed to be serious bits of the script. Jackson took liberties with LOTR in order for the film to translate to the screen, but the love he had for the story is present in every single moment of those 3 films despite the bits that were missed out.
Troy sucks because it just stinks of studio intervention and the makers not paying attention to the story. The liberties they took destroyed all context of the events and lead to a watered down, uncharismatic, watch-once-and-forget movie.

So no, I didn't like it.

Fairly close to what I thought. I wasn't paying too much attention to the film tbh but all these big fight scenes mean fuck all if you couldn't give a fuck if the character died or not. LOTR actually helped you care whether the character lived.

 

[Summo]

I fucking hate Orlando Bloom. If I start to type out all the reasons why I hate him I'll be here all night and my blood pressure will cause the top of my head to burst open.

So I'll calmly say... I fucking hate Orlando Bloom.

 

[TdC]

my friend Anita and I wanted to get into a foursome with him as legolas and Arwen (yes, this is LotR, not Troy). she wanted him there though, not me :/

 

[Wij]

my friend Anita and I wanted to get into a foursome with him as legolas and Arwen (yes, this is LotR, not Troy). she wanted him there though, not me :/

Have you had counselling ?

 

[TdC]

no, what's she like?

 

[Tom]

Saw it last week, it seems to be not so much based on the Illiad, rather than constrained by it. Brad Pitt (who I think is an excellent actor) isn't really given the opportunity to develop his character, in fact you could say that for most of the lead roles.

On the whole, I quite liked it. I think by editing some scenes out, and adding more background on Achillies, they could have made a much better film. I think they would have been better advised to use real extras, on a grand set, rather than the CGI used when the Greeks invade the city.

Did anyone notice how many actors were also in Braveheart?

 

[Deacan]

I fucking hate Orlando Bloom. If I start to type out all the reasons why I hate him I'll be here all night and my blood pressure will cause the top of my head to burst open.

So I'll calmly say... I fucking hate Orlando Bloom.

Agree i really can't stand him.