Torque..

[scoop]

Engine acceleration 0-62mph 10.8secs
Maximum output PS 115
at RPM 6000
Maximum torque 114 lbs.ft / 155 Nm
at RPM 4000
Insurance group rating 6

Can someone tell me the difference between these two.. in the sense that one has much higher torque at a lower RPM.. Would the one with the higher Torque justify another 1.5k? The only thing i know??(haha) about torque is that it kinda pushes the car along?

Lolly for the person who guess what cars they are or maybe a special something from wij instead.

Engine acceleration 0-62mph 11.1secs
Maximum output PS 105
at RPM 4000
Maximum torque 184 lbs.ft / 250 Nm
at RPM 1900
Insurance group rating 6

 

[Trem]

It means it pulls stronger, generally diesel cars are more torquey lower down in the revs. Erm I think thats it, well I know what it is in my head but it may be coming out wrong.

Go for a more torquey car for nicer, easier driving around town and for pulling a caravan or a trailer full of murdered women.....yes.......thats why torque is important.....trailer full of corpses.....hmmmmm...





*fap*

 

[Tom]

Lots of BHP and not much torques is like having a big knob and Jimmy Krankie pumping it.

Low BHP and massive torques is like having a small knob and Giant Haystacks pumping it.

 

[DaGaffer]

Torque is twisting force, power is 'pushing' force. In practical terms torque helps to apply power with less effort (fewer gearchanges). As Trem said, typically diesel engines have more torque than their equivalent sized petrol engines. Looking at the two cars you mentioned; the second looks like a VW engine - 1.9 diesel, the first...not sure, Ford 1.6? Do I get a wollipop?

 

[Wij]

Torque is for wimps. Use your gears

(actually torque is fun but I hate diesel engines with no revs :/)

 

[old.user4556]

Depending on what sort of a drive you're after would dictate what engine you want.

I used to have a Clio 182 that had 150 lb/ft of torque, but because it had variable cam timing it would produce torque at high rpm (and thus 182 PS from a 2 litre non-turbo) since power=(torque*rpm) / 5252.

Whilst it was a racey and sporty drive in the high rev range, it lacked any torque in the low revs neccesitating a lot of gear changing (as wij says). This was ok on B road bashes, but very tiresome around town.

My latest car is a BMW 320D which has 206 lb/ft of torque (but produces a lower power figure of 140 PS). It's certainly not as sporty to drive since you're changing gear at 4500 rpm, or thereabouts; but it's much easier to drive around town and gear changes are less frequent. Put your foot down at 1500 rpm and the surge of torque is pleasing; also very good for motorway overtaking.

So, if it's sportier drive you're looking for then get the first car. If it's a motorway cruiser or a regular quiet town driver you need, get the second.

Obviously the second one is a derv, so will be more economical than the first car, plus it'll no doubt be chippable to free up more ponies.

 

[Trem]

Ffs.

Torque is for pulling a trailer full of dead women

Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[scoop]

Cheers for the input

DaGaffer- Both are golfs! So you get a good seeing to from wij instead

 

[Wij]

*see to*

 

[Bodhi]

Being an old skool 16v motor, mine doesn't really get going until 4000rpm, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Hanging on for every last rpm is so much more satisfying than letting the big invisible elastic band ping you about everywhere.

As an aside I can't help but s****** when diesel heads claim you swap cogs less in a diesel. Do you bollocks. You might not have to change down to overtake on a motorway, but you have to change about twice as often getting up to speed in the first place cos the paraffin stove up front runs out of ideas at 4000rpm.

 

[old.user4556]

Lies

 

[Tom]

Or you could always get something with a V8, which will pull in any gear.

*misses TVR*

 

[Bodhi]

Precisely, you want loads of torque everywhere, not just in a lump down at the bottom. That's why my next car is gonna have some kind of 6 cylinder engine and rear wheel drive for jokes. I feel a 3 series coming on, but not for a year or two yet. The old Golf still has loads of miles of thrashing ahead of it, and I'm in absolutely no hurry to get rid of it.

 

[old.user4556]

Or a lump at the top, in the case of VTEC.

There is no replacement for displacement; to mirror what Tom said. The 3.2 straight six on the M i used to have shoved like a diesel low down, pushed like a turbo in the mid range and rasped like a VTEC at the top end.

A wonderfully flexible engine, so I can highly recommend a 3 series with a straight six pot.

 

[Trem]

The VTEC in my car(Accord Type-R) is pretty versatile. Low down its pretty torquey, mid range its a bit dead, but like you say G at the top end its bonkers.

It is getting a bit tiresome now though and I am missing the turbo of the Impreza.