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[delifie]

i wont hold any raids any more
I coulden not even have 15 people too listen too me in a keep with 6 albs.

so the ml rush i should hold wont be any thing becasue i do not trust people any more i i shall hold a raid all have too listen to me.

i said move up like 25 times and no one did it. that means i can't hold raids sins people not trust me.

so bluesky remove my raid if you can. have fun no more raids from my side. hope some one else want too try too take over.

 

[Nate]

Getting people to listen to you in rvr is a lot different then pve, you shouldn't jump to the assumption that they would listen to you in rvr. There is no pre determined leader like there is in pve raids, so it's there game and they do what they want in it..whereas in a pve raid you lead and people attend they will listen to you as you are the pre determined leader.

I for one would like you to try the next ml raid, I know people are counting on it and very much need the encounters.

 

[Afrodite]

NOOOO!! I need your ML raid.

 

[delifie]

well i saw it on ml2. people did not listen too me i said move up and non one did it. me and 2 ofter people was up and rest was standing down. and doing nothing. it is close too the same what happen in bled this morning. no one listen to me. i can't hand 4 mobs or 4 albs solo. i am tried of people whos not listen to me. so i see it as non one trust me that why i not want too run raids. sins no one did as i said. i was lucky on ml3 that people want too listen to me.

so i will guss on ml4.2 i will have many people in the door way and just standing there and not moveing up to main mob. as i will tell them too.

 

[Mundokar]

first : don't trust /bg count. there were 3 or 4 bb's in the bg
second : it helps if you get ppl rezzed before storming up to a FG wizards. Tartan stated clearly in BG that his grouped was wiped and needed a rezz

No need to cancel any raids due to this

 

[Durgi]

Has to be Nates fault!!!!!


D.

 

[delifie]

the frist thing i could get up on the side solo with out problems if all had charged up befor anything else had we won and if i not can get people too do as i say it wont work on a ml.

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

the frist thing i could get up on the side solo with out problems if all had charged up befor anything else had we won and if i not can get people too do as i say it wont work on a ml.

leading a raid in pve is one thing, as stated before.

leading a raid in pvp is compleatly diffarent when it comes to getting peoples attention.

trying to apply fancy tactics and solo play on a keep take that is defended by a well set defence group at a lordroom is suicide, there needs to be clear directives and easy-to-carry-out tactics and most of all, everyone has to be ready, given a signal of when to charge.

it has been common practice to give it a breather after last door goes down to get people rezzed, set up ect before charing onto defenders.
this due to them beeing the defence group and having been prepared for your charge since you started hitting the door.. you have gone from ram defence stance to a charge in about 5 seconds.
it is meant to fail unless your "zerg" or groups there are highly coordinated setgroups who know eachother well.

anyways, thats my opinion.

 

[Durgi]

Talking from experience.. and I hopefully I am. There's a huge difference between leading pve and rvr raids. Mainly the difference is in pve the encounter is set everyone pretty much knows what to expect, so they can relax sit back and enjoy the ride, whilst the leader gets a small migrane. In RvR every situation is different, and everyone has their own agenda's the fixed fg's have their prefered style of play and the stealthers have their own wars, and pugs tend to follow the zerg to avoid getting steam rolled by fixed groups. leading in rvr is for the masocist trust me I know.

Here's a few tips that should hopefully get you on the road to enjoying leading rvr, i know I did.

firstly, make sure everyone in Bg know's you have a set objective, retaking an important keep, or annoying the albs or hibs. For example: We're taking sursbrooke, and opening a port, from their we'll annoy the albs taking whatever we can till we force em to come out to play, then depending on the situation we'll give a little ground and pound crap out of them at Sursbrooke Keep and have a spot of fun doing it.

Secondly, don't trust bg count, as mentioned alot of people are likely to be just listening whilst doing their own thing. You can however, utilise peoples playing styles for example, if you have a couple of strong fixed groups running about seemingly ignoring you. Ask them to keep watch on a strategic target such as bold t3, there's bound to be plenty of action for them and their style in the area as groups of albs try retaking it. Same with stealthers, give them something to do that fits their gaming style, and you'll find they can be very responsive and co-operative.

thirdly, make sure everyone in the main zerg has something to do. pester group leaders to fill up groups with solo players do your best to make sure everyone feels involved, select warlords for seige duties, shadowblades etc for wall duty. Do your best to give a job to everyone. They'll enjoy it more and respond better.

lastly, listen to your fellow players, it's near impossible to keep tabs on every bit of enemy movement, whilst leading rvr raids. They are your eyes and ears, pay attention. Trust me it's not easy climbing walls perfing wizards, having arguements with Kagato over who owns the rights to the oil spots, and organising a solid defense. Have set idea's on how to achieve your goals and listen to those around you. When something happens give learn distinct instructions. they'll respond positi9vely to it.

Also it helps if the other guys don't know hat they're doing!

Though i still say it's all Nate's fault.

D.

 

[Imgormiel]

not that i care but... Nate for president!! xD .....not

 

[whinersmincer]

well i saw it on ml2. people did not listen too me i said move up and non one did it. me and 2 ofter people was up and rest was standing down. and doing nothing. it is close too the same what happen in bled this morning. no one listen to me. i can't hand 4 mobs or 4 albs solo. i am tried of people whos not listen to me. so i see it as non one trust me that why i not want too run raids. sins no one did as i said. i was lucky on ml3 that people want too listen to me.

so i will guss on ml4.2 i will have many people in the door way and just standing there and not moveing up to main mob. as i will tell them too.

maybe its because u suck that peps wont listen to u ?

 

[Digi]

maybe its because u suck that peps wont listen to u ?

Any need for that?

 

[Durgi]

Nice to see random FH insults haven't died. No Fey I doubt there was.

D.

 

[Bugz]

Any need for that?

Ignore him - his a nobody

 

[Kagato]

lastly, listen to your fellow players, it's near impossible to keep tabs on every bit of enemy movement, whilst leading rvr raids. They are your eyes and ears, pay attention. Trust me it's not easy climbing walls perfing wizards, having arguements with Kagato over who owns the rights to the oil spots, and organising a solid defense. Have set idea's on how to achieve your goals and listen to those around you. When something happens give learn distinct instructions. they'll respond positi9vely to it.

I usually argue more over people using hookpoints to fire palintones at towers and doors It amazes me people still do that.