Today I shot someone through a box...

[Rubber Bullets]

...I hadn't seen him, and the box was in front of my nose not his. Was I cheating? No.

It was on Aztec, playing T. I went into covered area at T end of bridge, with one teammate. I looked through the tiny gap between the blocks in there, but couldn't see any one. Then my teammate was sniped with an AWM. I adjusted my aim sligtly right and shot off maybe 3-4 shots, straight into the block. Didn't kill anyone so I straffed right and shot the guy who was there.

Of course immediately I was accused of WHing. Not surprising really, I guess I must have hit the guy with my first lucky shots, but this is surely a legitimate tactic isn't it? I do it quite a lot, but rarely with any success. Aztec, militia and assault are 3 of my favourte maps which give opportunities like this.

If any one bothered to do a demo of me then I think it would be clear that I don't cheat, but I think it is crap that I shouldn't take speculative shots into walls just inb acse some one takes issue, and maybe even tries to get me banned.

Any thoughts?

s

 

[Will]

Well, we all get lucky sometimes. If someone accuses you of cheating on just one kill, tel them that you didn't cheat, give them the evidence, and then drop the subject. Don't argue back, and play a few more rounds. They should leave you alone, although some players just won't let the matter lie.

 

[Rubber Bullets]

To be fair this guy didn't hassle me, just the 1 accusation plus a few veiled references.

My point was more that I'm not sure whether it is worth trying the speculative 'through wall' shots at all. If they work then ppl simply think you're a cheat. In a way that is the worst thing about these cheats being so common. The mistrust everyone has for everyone else, (at least those they don't know).

s

 

[ShockingAlberto]

are you kidding? i allways fire behind boxes/thin walls.
even a smal burst is good, since one bullet may hit them, theyll think theyve been discovered and jump out.

i allways shoot where someone could be, you dont need 30 bullets for a fight, so you can afford to fire several bursts without leaving you in a bad position for a fight.

 

[old.[UKLA]-Jobbie]

i used to use a great tactic on estate, the t's alway gaurd the stairs mostly, yes
as ct i sometimes sit on the wall and just randomly shoot into the window on the right, used to always get a few, but now i try not to because the wallhacking shit comes out straight away, i mean its just common sense, diff if i was a t on estate and doing it, then yes i would say that was wallhacking, but even guessing if a player is behind a wall box u get accused, and to be honest its not worth the hassle, same on dust as ct, i always shoot a clip off at the box's under the bridge, 9-10 there is always a t hiding there, all the cheats about at the min, take the skill out of the game, really sad, i remeber the good old days of beta 1 to 5.2 no one ever shouted cheat, and ppl actually congratulated u on a shot, now you just have to headshot someone and its cheat.

 

[Rubber Bullets]

I don't know whether it's been a good day or a bad day, almost every game I've been in I've been accused of cheating.

When 1.3 came out everyone moaned about the number of headshots, now you get 3 in a row and everyone is screaming 'AIMBOT'

Then I get 'You knew I was there!!!'

I feel like shouting back

'Of course I knew you were there you lead footed twat, You couldn't have made more noise if you had a fucking cow bell hung around your neck'

Have these people never heard of surround sound? I imagine them settling down to play CS, putting a CD in the tray, turning down that 'irritataing and intrusive in game noise' and trying to have a good game.

The stupid thing is I'm not really that good at CS, there are plenty of players out there that make me look like a complete noob, do they get this shit all the time?

s

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[old.ignus]

Originally posted by ShockingAlberto
i allways shoot where someone could be, you dont need 30 bullets for a fight, so you can afford to fire several bursts without leaving you in a bad position for a fight.

you and me must be playing a different game mate, it usually takes me an entire magazine in their chest to put them down.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

touche

Though it depends if the players moving or not, if he is you can lose a 30 clip into thin air all to easy


/Me wonders if this predict code actually works

/me thinks personally i preferd the lagg, atleast those 'better' players could actually judge that, and play the game acordingly

 

[old.ignus]

Agreed, sometimes you can shoot and see the crosshairs right on them and nothing, sometimes headshots don't work for me either, point blank range with an aug on scope once, three shots to the head and nothing.
It used to be funny playing AVP, you could say shoot at an alien and it'd come and kill you then suddenly about 5 seconds after you died it'd explode and the message saying you killed him/her/it. Also you got a score and not a number of frags, something I think would be good in CS and it doesn't acknowledge the fact that you just took someone down with a glock when they had an M4.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

with an AK using a whole clip to kill one guy wouldn't happen because after the first 10 bullets you'd have zero accuracy. yes with say an aug it isn't impossable to waste an entire clip, but with the accuracy of an AK you can generally kill in 5 bullets.

ive never found bullets not hitting, when i miss i know im missing.

 

[old.ignus]

whats your average ping? mine used to be 200 now its 300 - 350.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

i ping at around 200. i used to get less than 170 on nguk a while ago.

you could try turning client side weapons off...
it may screw around with the netcode a bit, but it will be more onbvious where your bullets are going / if that shot you fired actually was fired.

 

[old.ignus]

to be honest mate I don't know how, I had a list of all commands to type in console to make my ping that fraction better, but I lost it.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

cl_cw is client side weapons, it will be 1 atm, which means you see things that arent nessecerily actually happening. ie, you see someone, fire your gun at them, and then die. what actually happened was that you saw them, then killed you, but your attempts to fire failed due to the lag/latency.

turning off client side weapons will result in jerkier less eye pleasing stuff, but if you fire, and you see your gun firing, then you are actually firing.

 

[old.ignus]

Ok just had a game and I'm having some serious trouble, at first I thought it was just a bad run but when I emptied an AK magazine into someone at point blank range without them returning fire and they didn't die, then came up against 3 CTs each not firing at me as they hadn't seen me and still couldn't put them down with my MP5, its like my bullets aren't connecting at all even when they do hit. This has happened several times over the past few days and even on jolts HPB server, whats going on?

 

[old.ignus]

scrap that it must have been really bad lag and ping difference as I just owned on the HPB server on aztec, howevere it was quickly overrun by cheating faggots. Word of advise avoid the HPB server unless like me you dont stand a chance against anyone with a ping below 200, it's as someone else put a "cheaters haven"

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Originally posted by ShockingAlberto
cl_cw is client side weapons, it will be 1 atm, which means you see things that arent nessecerily actually happening. ie, you see someone, fire your gun at them, and then die. what actually happened was that you saw them, then killed you, but your attempts to fire failed due to the lag/latency.

turning off client side weapons will result in jerkier less eye pleasing stuff, but if you fire, and you see your gun firing, then you are actually firing.

Thank you, could solve about 90% of my probs that


Ps You know your allready dead when you gun stops firing, though the nme hasn't even hit you yet

I love that

 

[Ch3tan]

if u change cl_cw to 0, u must change cs_lc to 0 as well.

This turns off all the client side prediction, alternatively you could add cl_nopred 1 to the end of your config.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

hhmm, i wondered wether you could have client weapons off but keep lag predict...

i guess when you think about it, its pretty obvious you cant.


well, if you;re happy to lead your targets, then turn them both off, and you wont see anything that doesn't hapen.

the alternatative is to learn about the lag predict, so that when you die you know what exactly happened.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

There no predicting involved when somebody cans you before they have even come round the corner

By the time you see them and shoot, you have allready had it.

 

[]SK[]

kurt_angel you that llama tfc tker who gets himself banned every so often. Come on BW7 tonight so I can get your wonid plz.