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circeline

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just looked at masterlevels on ToA
Do I understand this right and does albion
now gets a healing stealther ?
Not only does the mincer wear chain and yada yada yada ( normal middie whine )
But they also as the only stealther class get access to Warlord line which at ML 2 has grp end/power/hp heal

to me it looks like mids are being railroaded into rolling savages and bd ( they get TS ) in order to be able to kill a normal alb stealther grp ( 2 infil + 1-2 mincers )

I really hope that im not reading it right.

or I foresee the peoples couch will fill up soon.

http://www.visionofsages.net/toa/Master_Abilities.shtml
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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I think it's much too early to jump the gun on ML's since most of the will probably be adjusted.

And EU wont get ToA till Feb 2004, so let's wait and see.
 
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circeline

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Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
I think it's much too early to jump the gun on ML's since most of the will probably be adjusted.

And EU wont get ToA till Feb 2004, so let's wait and see.

I know but do you read it the same way as I do ?
Im not trying to make a whine cuzz if I read it right it will also have a huge impact on albion who will only fight bds and savages if it is true.
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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2 Bolstering Battlecry - heal power, fatigue, and health by 10% of max

Warlord = Bolstering Battle Cry
PBAE 10% End/Pow/Hits Heal.
Aggro Generation : Untested
Buffed Hits? : Yes
Usable in Combat? : Yes
Timer : 5 Minutes
Instant Cast
Radius : Untested

In stealth groups this does seem a bit nasty, yes.

But I think Prescience Node is worse :)

Like I said, ToA has just been released in US, so lots of things can change before we get it.
 
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-Nxs-

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Lol dont worry - remember what mythic said.


The ML's will. only move your character horizontaly

<vomits>
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by -Nxs-
Lol dont worry - remember what mythic said.


The ML's will. only move your character horizontaly

<vomits>

you know what mythic is up to when they start talking in riddles again :rolleyes:


masterlevels is a very bad idea, they should focus on fixing the old stuff first, cuz now they will only be adding even more so called 'balanced' stuff and they're game will be in even deeper shit
 
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Damon_D

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Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
2 Bolstering Battlecry - heal power, fatigue, and health by 10% of max

Warlord = Bolstering Battle Cry
PBAE 10% End/Pow/Hits Heal.
Aggro Generation : Untested
Buffed Hits? : Yes
Usable in Combat? : Yes
Timer : 5 Minutes
Instant Cast
Radius : Untested

In stealth groups this does seem a bit nasty, yes.

But I think Prescience Node is worse :)

Like I said, ToA has just been released in US, so lots of things can change before we get it.

Cool its not like albion stealther groups has like 10 leg's up allready with insta stun , aoe mezz , speed , sos , abla chant..nope now they also get group hp and end heal..god I love mythic... I bet to balance it SB's or Hunters will get a new ML the " summon ass lubricant " who will be very handy as I see it......
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Just make sb's groups with a skald, problem solved ;o
 
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Damon_D

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Yeah plz give stealth for my skald ( and aoe mezz instead of singel target.. and abla chant.. and insta stun and SOS ) ..its not like its gonna be over powered , albions " skalds " have it
 
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[Oo]Escape

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Too early to whine. Some [ML + class] combinations will be overpowered to start, but Mythic will even things out over a couple patches untill Midgard benefits the most :p
 
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case-rigantis

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Originally posted by Damon_D
Yeah plz give stealth for my skald ( and aoe mezz instead of singel target.. and abla chant.. and insta stun and SOS ) ..its not like its gonna be over powered , albions " skalds " have it

yeah cool and give me insta mez insta root tank hitpoints and free 2 hander spec oh and while your at it take my intruments away and make all my spells insta

fair trade imo
 
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scarffs

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Insta root ? We dont get that.
Plus our mezz sucks and gets resisted all the time.
Tank hit points ?? Not correct afaik.
And indeed do give us 2hander spec instead of the bullshit 110% of 1-hander damage we do now. Then we woulndt complain.
 
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Damon_D

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Originally posted by case-rigantis
yeah cool and give me insta mez insta root tank hitpoints and free 2 hander spec oh and while your at it take my intruments away and make all my spells insta

fair trade imo

skalds dont have insta root , they dont have tank hp, you can have my gimped 2h advantage and my ghetto mezz..but then you also get my gimp special RA instead of SOS...now how does that sound ???
 
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Pelinore

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I want to exchange my crappy platemail for a cute purple dress, is this the right place?
 
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Damon_D

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I'm sure someone will be able to help you... maybe trade it for Gombur's kitten's dress ??
 
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chretien

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Originally posted by Damon_D
Cool its not like albion stealther groups has like 10 leg's up allready with insta stun , aoe mezz , speed , sos , abla chant..nope now they also get group hp and end heal..god I love mythic... I bet to balance it SB's or Hunters will get a new ML the " summon ass lubricant " who will be very handy as I see it......
10% every 5 minutes? I'd rather rely on potions to be honest. Not as if it's a full heal or a regen.

I find it funny how the same mids who are so quick to shout about 'Alb Crybabies' are also, in the main, the ones who whine most about Alb abilities.
 
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Damon_D

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Soo its " only " 10% , but thats 10% more than the other stealther groups get...not including all the other freaking xtra tricks albion stealth groups get because Mythic's love child get's a third stealther class....


Btw I find it funny that you find it funny that ...... Naa I dont realy find anything , about albion stealther groups being over the top over-powered , funny...guesse I lack a sense of humor..poor me :(
 
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Roo Stercogburn

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Might be interesting to see what people think of a group of stealthers all with this ability. 10% per heal x 7 or 8.

Alb ninja raids suddenly got somewhat easier if this is the case.

Not much use worrying about it. MLAs went from supposedly being intended not to have much affect on RvR to changing the face of RvR.

It will probably be another month or so before we start to properly see the effects of MLAs on the US servers.
 
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Turamber

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Probably sooner than that -- ML2 requires people to PvE in areas that are normally deserted, and it looks as if ML3 will require people to RvR ... probably in other 'forgotten' areas.

A number of people on Merlin have given up (at least for the time being) after getting ML1 - the difficulty level for ML2 is much, much higher so they've gone back to RvR. Hence people are seeing ML1, and some ML2, skills in RvR right now.

Thus far they're not making a huge difference as, for the most part, they are group skills. Convokers are handy on keep raids though, saves money on buying wood for upgrades ;)
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Originally posted by Damon_D
I'm sure someone will be able to help you... maybe trade it for Gombur's kitten's dress ??

*hisses*

:eek:
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Originally posted by Damon_D
/em Trow's the kitty a mouse

" Now be still ...and undress...:cool:

First you buy me crappy dinner and then you expect me to drop my clothes?

Well I'm not that kinda girl mistah!

*snaps fingers*





















At least not on the first date.
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
Might be interesting to see what people think of a group of stealthers all with this ability. 10% per heal x 7 or 8.

Alb ninja raids suddenly got somewhat easier if this is the case.

Not much use worrying about it. MLAs went from supposedly being intended not to have much affect on RvR to changing the face of RvR.

It will probably be another month or so before we start to properly see the effects of MLAs on the US servers.

not really mate, dunno wtf the americans do tbh but they whine and claim Animists are overpowered, mids are the underdogs and lack power etc... cant really see how that is possible when I know how good mid actually is :)

Wait until its in EU and the gankers start using it fully, _then_ we will see the full result of it, not when the gimps in US have it since they obviosly cant do anything right.
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by vivacelilp
Woo if thats true my minstrel is woo :D
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as if you wont have traded for some other toon by then heh :rolleyes:
 
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Roo Stercogburn

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Shike, I don't particularly have a problem with this, it was just an observation and my first thought of how the pbae stealther heal will be used.

With the chances to uncover stealthers increasing, they may well need an ability like this. If the abilty under certain circumstances to reach the intended target is impeded due to things like Prescience Node they'll need something to increase survivability.

No idea what other stealthers have to help them and none of us know what the exact effects will be yet.
 

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