TOA looking at the bright side

[Deadnala]

I see alot of whine by alot of ppl, a few examples..

- no more rvr
If you want rvr, why are you in TOA then instead or in frontiers? Dont say no groups. dont be lazy, make your own group..

- to time consuming
If the artifact or ml's where easy to have, then all would have them. If all can have it, then there is nothing special anymore about it.

- overpowered artifacts and stuff
The artifacts are lets say useless at lvl0 and it take ages to make em lvl10, on the other hand its an artifact, if it was not powerfull they could name it items instead of artifacts.

Allso TOA give a new dimention to the game. Where many say its fucked up i must disagree! Think about the new overcaps, new stats, new abilities. Where we used to buy a MP set of gear and let it SC till all stats where caped, toa make that imposible, you have to make choises about wich stats you gone cap etc, this give way more variation to the game and make it way more interesting. Like in the olld days, every lvl50 had caped stats, what is the use of stats of averyone have them maxed?

In my opinion TOA is good for the game, if the zerg is over all will return normal like it used to be. I hope this will make you feel beter with toa, if not just ignore this thread, greetings

 

[Asq]

Amen

 

[Vodkafairy]

toa is nice overall, shame it's still in beta until 1.68

and it causes alot of grief, mainly because of the insanely long repop time on some arti's

 

[censi]

The ultimate aim of the expansion is to draw in new players and extend the subscription of existing players. Not sure how many new players TOA has brought. I think it did cause a lot of players to jump ship though. It was quite radical this expansion.

The sucess of this expansion from a players point of view will vary. Some will like some wont.

The true definition of success comes from mythics subscrition numbers. I have a feeling all the effort that was put into this expansion may have actually reduced their player base though.

 

[Nugusta]

toa is nice overall, shame it's still in beta until 1.68

and it causes alot of grief, mainly because of the insanely long repop time on some arti's

Im more concerned about decay rate, and the fact that some artifacts level MUCH slower then others.

 

[Jika]

Ye, ToA is nice .. but lvling as Warden is soo ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz

 

[Radix]

Well,
say what you want.

My joy of the game has slowly ran out after Atlantis.
Feel stuck on having to farm insanely.

You say its not needed? I should just go rvr if thats my aim in game?

Unfortunately my druid is now a serious gimp if he doesnt have 25% more powerpool, 25% healing effectiveness, 10% casting time bonus and a couple extra defensive increases to counter enemies increased killing effectiveness,
while keeping good resists and use a fortune on new gear and scrolls.

Oh and I better have high ML in perfecter.

rvr groups know this and its quite obvious when their druid doesnt live up to their expectations.

Enemies know this and they are the ones we try and keep ahead of.

rvr is more suicide than usual

and its much worse for stealthers, who feel the preasure more than my druid.
I had kinda hoped to get the last few levels on my NS but they are havign a terrible time.
Then mythic released info on frontiers and new RA's.
Albion sure is loved.
shades sure are screwed.

then they felt it amusing to say on herald that infils could now poison their cross bows.
Next day they had recieved so much angry feedback that the crossbow love seems cancelled for now.

Anyway you really cant pass of atlantis gear as not required, even group classes are much worse of in battle and will have harder time getting groups after getting label of "GIMP" which we truely are without many months of farming.

 

[Hvutt]

Imo, ToA has added another aspect to the gamers who got stuck in the orig. game. Taken focus away from RvR, to the inside of the Realm itself. Offered new options, ideas and ways to play the game once again.

It have changed the way you could cap your stats and now you have to work on that part again.

Unfortunately, ToA/Shrouded Isles haven't improved the overall gaming. Not on this server anyway. Imo the game with all it's ideas have never been played like intended. We can brag about having some of the elite players on this server. Give them an uber goal to go for and they will. 24/7.

What we don't have and never will get, is a Realm that works as a..... Realm. I think the idea behind the game, was for each realm to work TOGETHER and make it as powerful and strong as possible. To have strong leadership that combines the weak and the strong souls into one army. To have joint forces, stand united, to show our superioty(?) to the Albs and the Mids...etc. etc.

And to be able to do that, you would have to have people working together, to be helping and supporting each other in a much greater scale that we have seen so far. To have a little group of players show how fast they can get to ML 10, is not doing anything for the realm itself. On the contrairy we loose a lot of players to other games.

But ofc, we always have the option of telling the albs and the mids how they lack every decent skill, and the only thing they are good at is zerging (aka working together as players from one Realm).

DAoC could have been a good game and would deff. have had a better chance if the game was played as it was intended.

My humble opinion ofc. Roughly written overall, but I think you might be able to add the missing lines in between yourself.

May your realm be with you

 

[Enli]

1. there are many players without advantages of artifacts (see half of the alb zerg)
2. not all artifacts change that much, it's more 1v1 that it changes and ofc if an entire grp has nice arrtifacts but heck we steamroll em after that with 2-3 fg's
3. u dont need artifacts to make a nice template.... many drops have nice extra's
4. grps wont accept druids without arti's and/or high ml's (imo most utter crap i heard) ---> a) again regular drops can increase your healing and buff effectiveness etc
b) high perfecter is only nice in keeptakes/defense

and even then people are pm'ing me a lot to drive to emain and i dont even wear any "toa-crap"

 

[Enli]

Unfortunately, ToA/Shrouded Isles haven't improved the overall gaming. Not on this server anyway. Imo the game with all it's ideas have never been played like intended. We can brag about having some of the elite players on this server. Give them an uber goal to go for and they will. 24/7.

What we don't have and never will get, is a Realm that works as a..... Realm. I think the idea behind the game, was for each realm to work TOGETHER and make it as powerful and strong as possible. To have strong leadership that combines the weak and the strong souls into one army. To have joint forces, stand united, to show our superioty(?) to the Albs and the Mids...etc. etc.

And to be able to do that, you would have to have people working together, to be helping and supporting each other in a much greater scale that we have seen so far. To have a little group of players show how fast they can get to ML 10, is not doing anything for the realm itself. On the contrairy we loose a lot of players to other games.

in that so called race of you, the elite players went for ml10 asap, well we tried to involve as much people as possible, and it wasn't only amongst those leet guilds
me and fluffs did a lot of efforts so many players would be able to do these ml's, did /as on both major alliances etc
we helped a lot of players at lower ml's as we needed ml exp and helped guildies, even players of LA, vengeance,... helped others
and even now i and many others are still open for some ml raids, i hope for a next ml10 soon when the next batch of players is ready
but maybe the hardest part is that u have to do the effort to organise/lead or just even show up for a raid

and even when relicraids are organised we help eachother, when someone calls alarm... a lot of people at dagda... and then we see all guilds gather
the relics are a reward for a realm that has teamwork, and look, we have 3 of 6
but u can't expect people to do this and that, they bought the game and do in this virtual world wathever they want as long it's ok by the rules that u had to read

 

[Elewyth(TLSOA)]

the relics are a reward for a realm that has teamwork, and look, we have 3 of 6

arse biscuits... you only have those relics because you signed upto an agreement not to RR out of primetime because it suits YOUR realm with a lower population.. convienient perhaps... if this were truly a game of WORKING together without agreements youd never have ANY relics and you know it...youd have to resort to undrhand tactics like the middies,.. on a side note it was nice to see SOME hibbies turn up at Dagda the other day when we got bored..but hardly enough to stop an organised ALb RR atempt, i think if wed even thought we could be bothered to take them i'd be sat here now polishing your damned couldren with a luri-skin cloth, perhaps if it were a realm of people REALLY working together not just in your /as circles then people might be more inclined to join your realm.. as it is Hibernia for me atleast is still very much a loners realm..with no clear population part boosted by alts and /lvl's with only the hardcore few who really dont play any other realm.

 

[Deadnala]

Well,
say what you want.

My joy of the game has slowly ran out after Atlantis.
Feel stuck on having to farm insanely.

You say its not needed? I should just go rvr if thats my aim in game?

Unfortunately my druid is now a serious gimp if he doesnt have 25% more powerpool, 25% healing effectiveness, 10% casting time bonus and a couple extra defensive increases to counter enemies increased killing effectiveness,
while keeping good resists and use a fortune on new gear and scrolls.

Oh and I better have high ML in perfecter.

rvr groups know this and its quite obvious when their druid doesnt live up to their expectations.

Enemies know this and they are the ones we try and keep ahead of.

rvr is more suicide than usual

and its much worse for stealthers, who feel the preasure more than my druid.
I had kinda hoped to get the last few levels on my NS but they are havign a terrible time.
Then mythic released info on frontiers and new RA's.
Albion sure is loved.
shades sure are screwed.

then they felt it amusing to say on herald that infils could now poison their cross bows.
Next day they had recieved so much angry feedback that the crossbow love seems cancelled for now.

Anyway you really cant pass of atlantis gear as not required, even group classes are much worse of in battle and will have harder time getting groups after getting label of "GIMP" which we truely are without many months of farming.

wrong tread, this is look at the bright side not the dark side

 

[Event]

as it is Hibernia for me atleast is still very much a loners realm..with no clear population part boosted by alts and /lvl's with only the hardcore few who really dont play any other realm.

I think you will find hib has a large number of guilds who help their members and cooperate with other guilds. Players will always have their own agenda but hib has as much internal loyalty as any other realm. Granted it might not be that deep but it does exist.

 

[Vantros of the Delerium]

btw just so u know dont bhother getting 25% cos in 1.69 i believe all caps drop to 10%, so saying i need 25% isnt true tbh.. and i dont see how u can be gimped if u can play your character well.. but hey if u cant play without the 25% (10% after 1.68) bonus well obviously u are gimped not the char..

The one thing i agreed with Tyka on is that the players skill much outweighs the characters atributes and its gear... think what u wnat but i believe in the player not the char.. nuff said

 

[Radix]

power poll, buff effectiveness and heal effectiveness stay at 25% (from what I read)
casting speed is 10% after patches.

makes a big difference and also means more farming for the uber stuff to make template near-complete.

oh and yes topic was meant to be "look on bright side" but you started out your self with telling why "dark side" was wrong, so you really invited a reply like mine was.

Druids dont really have it worse than other classes but my main is druid so I used druid.

 

[ilaya]

my original bitching about toa is well known..it simply ISNT an attractive feature for new players. cant imagine why it could ever be considered so.

but after playing a bit as an established char its ok.. bugged beyond belief mind you but managable if u got the patience.

i always try to view add ons and stuff from the point of view as a lvl 1 player who just starts the game.. and well.. toa is bad for them.. but good for long term players who have been here a while... aint really fair imo

i'd rather have new peeps joining game and having some kinda hope they can catch up with the peeps that been playing for ages through simple great playing.. than be excluded coz they havent got the add-ons and ml's.. etc..

toa is nice for peeps who played for a while.. but not for new peeps.. more money.. old rope. etc.

 

[Brodia]

ToA is fun, but,,

I'm still pretty sure that its have made it even harder to new upcomming 50. ToA is made to all the old chars.

Ofc this can be prevented if all keep making ml's, something like Galla event. If not, I'm afraid that all new players fast will find other games to play:-/