To those that whine about stealther adding on FG's

Bloodaxe_Springskalle

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Most ppl that play FG's or regular group chars in general are mad about stealthers adding on their fights, and by all means i understand it to some point.
But as I have played stealther since the very the birth of the euro servers I can maybe shed some light on the subject the way at least I see it.
We stealthers (from all three realms) have most of us allways added on FG fights or larger fights both to help the realm and get some RP's out of it.
Larger groups have also chased down stealthers since the early dawn too, added on our 1 on 1 fights and basically done your fair share to make a stealthers life harder.
By all means, there is noble stealthers that doesent add unless asked to, and there is FG's leaving duelists alone etc. but the major population does add, and they are usually those who whine highest, you notice the errors others have that you self have first and they annoy you the most aswell (first grade psychology clichè)
Nobody's perfect, don't expect no one to be either, so let ppl play the game the way they want to, wether it's zerging, adding, grey ganking or PvE scrounging or whatever it is as long as it is withing the rules of CoC etc.

so the conclusion is, stealthers add, FG's add, almost everyone add, allways have and prolly allways will so get over it, nothing's gonna change in that departement no matter how high pitched you whine and moan.

I enjoy this game the way I play it.
Respect it or not, i don't really care as I pay my own subscription, I pay to play the game my way.
So do everyone else, so let them play their way!

/peace everyone :)
 

Asha

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fg vs. stealthers argument: take 947

why don't we just cut and paste the last thread.
 

Matmardigan

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edit:

tbh 2 add on a fg vs fg fight is fun, and its more fun 2 add when hibs fights against mids :D
 

Jaond

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When playing my healer it's nothing I hate more then stealther adds, when playing my sb it's nothing I hate more then fg add's...

Same shit really have been like this 4-ever and will never change so accept it or /quit :wub:
 

Loxleyhood

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Thing is in a solo fight, no matter what the outcome, it's fine. If you win, you win. You are the victor. If you lose, it's because you met a better man.

Or an overpowered man.

But to be killed by eight people, too cowardly to even attack you face to face? Leaves you feeling cheated.
 

katt!

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Loxleyhood said:
Thing is in a solo fight, no matter what the outcome, it's fine. If you win, you win. You are the victor. If you lose, it's because you met a better man.

Or an overpowered man.

But to be killed by eight people, too cowardly to even attack you face to face? Leaves you feeling cheated.
but sitting on a zw 2000 units away leeching strong rps with your bow is not cowardly? :/
 

Loxleyhood

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katt! said:
but sitting on a zw 2000 units away leeching strong rps with your bow is not cowardly? :/

Would be pretty stupid to leech from a zonewall. Nowhere to escape. And there's no grouper I would add on that I wouldn't also attack one on one.
 

Bishibosh

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katt! said:
but sitting on a zw 2000 units away leeching strong rps with your bow is not cowardly? :/

Well just how many ways do scouts actually have to earn RPs, without incurring the whine bat? They can either get IP/purge etc, wait for an (hopefully solo) sb to attack them and get rps that way... Which is not very "scouty", find a solo berzerker running around and shoot that, use TS, or hope to find another stealther running around unstealthed, which is kinda rare...

Basically the fact is that archers are kind of weirdly balanced stealthers, in that it's kinda awkward to effectively kill another (out of combat) soloer with the main spec line, the bow, not including times when people are fighting, or when an enemy is running away after a fight. There are very few decent targets for a ranged soloer (Though archers do benefit from the sojourner line here), and so for a large % of Rps I'll admit that my scout does add on FG fights, and to be honest I don't expect fg's to leave me alone in return, it's just the way it works, and unfortunately that's just the way the class is. It's not really worth whining about... It's not going to change, and it occurs to all three realms.
 

Chronictank

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stealthers will always add
fgs will always get annoyed and steamroll every stealther they get their hands on in revenge
steamrolled stealther will add in revenge
fgs will get annoyed and steamroll every stealther they get their hands on in revenge
steamrolled stealther will add in revenge
dry rinse repeaet 1xxxx times
nothing will change no use whining about it
 

Killrake

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I dont care if ppl add when I play in grp and I sure as hell dont care to listen to whine when I add as stealther, not even if it is a 1 on 1 fight, I pay for the game I play it the way I want it kthxgodbye
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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Its RvR ladies - not 1v1, or FGvFG.

I'm betting any money that one of the last phrases heard over radio traffic at Pearl Harbour wasn't 'Don't add ffs!'
 

Dafft

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I like to think my adding helps ppl :p

There's nothing better than be sneaky sneaky & taking out healers/bards/casters all the quinticential (Big word, urgh) ppl

cos it's fun to do
 

Herjulf

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I dont care.

Have still to fight some1 without getting added by loxleyzerg sniping me in the ass.
Or fg hib/albs steamrolling us.
 

Loxleyhood

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Herjulf said:
I dont care.

Have still to fight some1 without getting added by loxleyzerg sniping me in the ass.
Or fg hib/albs steamrolling us.

I haven't grouped with anything but a buffbot in months!
 

Alithiel

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The thing is that it's getting worse...

It used to be a problem that was mostly restriceted to milegates, but now we have stealthers tagging along with full groups thanks to the level 10 ability of the Crocodile Ring... :(

I've seen an awful lot of Mid/Hib groups recently that have consisted of anywhere between 9 and 12 people! :eek7:
 

Loxleyhood

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Bloodaxe_Springskalle said:
who cares if you group or not Loxley, as long as you have fun doing whatever you do :p

I don't. I get stealthzerged by Brehons I've never seen before or Shadowblades that would have trouble not dribbling on themselves. I get steamrolled by full groups that I've never had an oppotunity to add on even if I would have and messed by Skalds using radar. I constantly solo and get called a zergling by braindead vegetables like this one. I'm only playing for NF.
 

Jpeg[LOD]

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Alithiel said:
The thing is that it's getting worse...

It used to be a problem that was mostly restriceted to milegates, but now we have stealthers tagging along with full groups thanks to the level 10 ability of the Crocodile Ring... :(

I've seen an awful lot of Mid/Hib groups recently that have consisted of anywhere between 9 and 12 people! :eek7:
i only folow fga's with croc ring when i want a taxi to my camp spots :)

but as for the adding whine. everybody does it it aint gonna change , so just quit whining n get on with the game.

i try not to add on 1v1 unless the albs gonna lose. on fg+fg i always add.

as a solo scout (which i am 95% of the time unless grpd with guilldys or on a ts run to clean sb/hunter zerg) its tough to get rps non stealthers rarely solo so that counts out me getting rp's from them..

im virtually free rp's to sb's and ns's .... if i am lucky enough to spot a ranger or hunter destealthed then i have a good chance (even then if i shoot em they run oposite direction out of range) but if im roaming stealthed and bump into a ranger or a hunter i tend to get my ass handed to me by there far superior melee capabilities n pets (hunters).


so in many cases the way for archers to get rp's is by adding or catching stealthers running solo unstealthed.

as for blaming adders to the reason why u flatten soloers or people fighting 1v1 with a fg imo is bullshit . its not a case of stealthers adding started the gank all trend.... it's rp hunger from all sides...

fg's kill soloers cos they /a dont like the person /b they want the rp's .
soloers add for same reasons.

i cant recall from top of my head a time whena fg has let me live or hasnt pwnd me whilst i was fighting sum1 1v1 .... so i will add every chance i get.... as sum1 said above its funny adding on a fight and trying to watch the healer/bard/druid etc trying to heal there grp when im filling em with arrows.
 

rvn

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why not qq about the shape of the moon aswell, not like you can change it, same goes with stealthers adding on fights (wich is what mythic intended anyway? :eek:)

just make sure to gank the scouts before anything else, they dont get heals and do huge dmg ;)
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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I'll always add on a fight - and I expect my realm m8s to jump in and help me out too.

You want to be l33tz0r5 1v1 go play CS.
 

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Alithiel said:
but now we have stealthers tagging along with full groups thanks to the level 10 ability of the Crocodile Ring... :(

nothing wrong with leeching speed ! :(
 

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Before i tried US i would have whined and QQ about fg ganking me solo ect but not anymore.After playing US server i soon came to see EU>US at making rps no argument but US>EU at daoc in general.Play there a month and u will see they log off as happy as they log on,U will get zerged and ganked and u will zerg and gank but ppl accept it and smile.There is no QQ FO adding noobs or RETARDS find your own fights and not even many /emote spamming.Maybe im lucky and just havent seen it or maybe its the servers ive tried but to me they do real R V R whereas excal have moved away from what daoc should be and is now a warped version which involves guild fg vs guild fg where im sure 80% of the time these fg would be just as happy killing there own realms fgs, and that IMO is wrong and goes against whole point of having seperate realms :)
 

Ajeroth

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Have to say, there have been a few times when both Alb and Mid groups have zoomed up to where I'm fighting solo vs another solo, and have waited until we're finished and then killed me or the guy I was fighting. Pleasantly surprised when it does happen, but I dont expect it to. This is in Odins, I still dont want to go anywhere near the sb/inf zerg in Emain - thats not fun.

I add on full group fights, tend to not add on other solo'ers (unless they are being smacked silly) and also try and avoid high Ns/Ranger areas (emphasis on try, there have been times when I'm attacking something and loads of ns/rangers pop). This is now, I did use to be a part of the Brehon zerg way before christmas, but decided it just wasnt as fun as going solo or the odd duo.

I do grumble a bit about getting Ns/Ranger adds, but only if they wait to get the last hit in for kill spam to their name. Still, gets me rp's and keeps me alive a bit longer - so its not that big a deal.

Chensin
 

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the day stealthers stop adding on other 1v1's or fg vs fg fights will be the day fgs stop killing stealthers.. ie never, get over it
 

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