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I have been trying to solo with my pally for a few days now, it would be oki if it wasnt for all those FGs that just have to kill u on sight, what i wonder is it really worth to kill a lonely soloer what u get 200rps or something. What happend to those ppl who respected soloers and let em have their minifights, is it all just about RPS and pwing nowdays??? For me the game is more about nice figths then lots of RPs.. so just wanted to know what u think in this matter... so lets start the flaming shall we :)
 

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I have been trying to solo with my pally for a few days now, it would be oki if it wasnt for all those FGs that just have to kill u on sight, what i wonder is it really worth to kill a lonely soloer what u get 200rps or something. What happend to those ppl who respected soloers and let em have their minifights, is it all just about RPS and pwing nowdays??? For me the game is more about nice figths then lots of RPs.. so just wanted to know what u think in this matter... so lets start the flaming shall we :)

The problem is that all the soloers you leave alive often adds if they see you fight a other fg.
 

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Personally, I kill on sight, and sometimes it results in flaming from realm ppl..
2 reasons:
1. It's RvR, not PvP, so for me it's not just about rps, but also killing enemies..
2. Is the roleplaying aspect, why would you let an enemy get away? :p Never seen a Knight like person who greet an Orc and say Kthxbye tbh ;)
 

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the fg vs soloer discussion is a variant of the lvl 50 vs grey con (in DF or wherever) discussion.. it is no problem for a fg to kill a soloer, as it is no problem to kill a grey con for a lvl 50. Since in both cases we are discussing the killing of enemy players, it's really a matter of whether you would kill enemies on sight, regardless of lvl/solo, or if you prefer to kill only fg+ size opponents..

Some ppl say "all enemies must be killed" and some say "all enemies are worth rps" and some say "let soloers/grey con live"...

I have no 100% rule on this, I tend to do whatever strikes me, if I even can have a say (if you are in group with Serzik, all enemies get attacked even if we spam /g don't add on fight) :p
 

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Run odins solo two or three times and die to fg+ hibs/albs, then go back with a few others and kill all :p
 

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It is hard to solo as a tank when you lack speed or stealth (either to hide or run away from fg's). winged helm have saved me a number of times. You can get decent speed when fleeing with it +sprint. Its all about finding the soloers routes and stay away from places where fg's usually roam.

I count on being killed when I come too close to a fg.. nothing wrong with that. Usually kill soloers myself if im in a fg (usually spare the greys though).
 

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There has been an amazing case by albs that showed a lot of character a couple of weeks back. I was camping apk Odin's, when a solo Friar apear. We started fighting and half-way down the fight an alb fg apeared. They stood by and let us finish the fight. Once I killed the Friar they killed me :) This is definitely something I'm not going to argue about as they behaved in an excellent manner.

PS. They did rez the friar afterwards so I guess we're all happy!
 

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yeah the problem to solo as a tank is that u got no speed and no stealth, and doesnt really matter which ways u go i have experienced, u can go the weirdest route on earth and suddenly there appears a fg who just needed to kill that singel tank that does eveything he can to avoid the zergs in order to look for the holy fight. So what i mean is that FGs should look behind the character and see the person that have spend 10 min on pad and another 15mins to take a safe route just to get killed by em. And going odins aint a option theres 10000000000000000 albs camping hmg/htk there, and running to HW without speed is the s00k so leaves us to emain, i often trying to go to the stealther spots but not always they dare to attack :/

But still its my own choice to go solo, just curious how other saw on this problem
 

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Don't run solo where groups have been since day 1?
 

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Gear said:
There has been an amazing case by albs that showed a lot of character a couple of weeks back. I was camping apk Odin's, when a solo Friar apear. We started fighting and half-way down the fight an alb fg apeared. They stood by and let us finish the fight. Once I killed the Friar they killed me :) This is definitely something I'm not going to argue about as they behaved in an excellent manner.

PS. They did rez the friar afterwards so I guess we're all happy!

Similar happened to me in DF once with my gimp SB.. i logged on near mid x-roads, and mid had lost df. I got into a fight with a ranger, we ended up in mid x itself - a lot of hibs came and stood around in a circle, watching the fight, cheering on both me and the ranger. When he killed me, they healed the ranger and /bow'ed at me. I was impressed, it made my day even tho I lost :)

:cheers:
 

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yeah the problem to solo as a tank is that u got no speed and no stealth, and doesnt really matter which ways u go i have experienced, u can go the weirdest route on earth and suddenly there appears a fg who just needed to kill that singel tank that does eveything he can to avoid the zergs in order to look for the holy fight. So what i mean is that FGs should look behind the character and see the person that have spend 10 min on pad and another 15mins to take a safe route just to get killed by em. And going odins aint a option theres 10000000000000000 albs camping hmg/htk there, and running to HW without speed is the s00k so leaves us to emain, i often trying to go to the stealther spots but not always they dare to attack :/

But still its my own choice to go solo, just curious how other saw on this problem


I still think you can have a lot of fun solo (even without BB). DF is the optimal place for it (if you dont have speed).. Emain is worst but usually very good late at night. Odins is ok I guess but usually its completely dead or too crowded. Cant say much about hadrians ;)
 

erialor

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Was in emain 9.30 am CET last day.. running solo as I didn't expect many out in emain yet, was a little wrong though :)

Encountered a fgh at amg/grannies -> back to cs/pad, and off to emain again, got as far as dcx this time and encountered a fgm, this time I got one of them down with me though.

As said, didn't expect fgps at that time of day, but certainly not complaining about it either, I run out there and it's RvR, so I know the risks..... Now tell me this is a lot different when the alb-zerg you all like to refer to is much different than a fgp hitting solo'ers? It's RvR, expect ppl to defend their realms :D

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last time, when I soloed, I met some rr3 paladin :x .. I killed him ;(
 

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Jika said:
last time, when I soloed, I met some rr3 paladin :x .. I killed him ;(

:)

Pala's can be hard to solo (with unbuffed lw champ).. but usually you manage to fall asleep before they kill u :p
 

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If there aren't enemies near I try not to kill soloers.. but the rest of my group kill them regardless. If there are enemies near I kill them because I cba taking the risk that they'll add if I don't.
Scouts and Hunters I will kill at any opportunity because they're scum of the earth! :p
 

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I dont mind fg's running over me, but when they decide to let me live its great :)

btw it quite fun if you manage to kill one from a fg, but i guess its pretty hard for a pala :)
 

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as was said before most soloers we let go will add, example in odins we came across a solo sorc, he sat down and awaited his fate so we just ran past. 5 mins later we were fighting a fg on alb side amg, wo and behold the soloer was nuking out healers from amg room. We learnt our lesson, fortunately we scraped through, but thats the way it is.. all soloers must die :twak:
 

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shademode used to be good for soloing :eek:

odins is getting crowded again so the same old suggestion, wanna solo? go HW!

except ofc every realm comes thru HW to get to alb's soft keeps... :mad:
 

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Amadon said:
If there aren't enemies near I try not to kill soloers.. but the rest of my group kill them regardless. If there are enemies near I kill them because I cba taking the risk that they'll add if I don't.
Scouts and Hunters I will kill at any opportunity because they're scum of the earth! :p

same- the confusion in the group gets really big sometime, when i steer away from a solo person on my bard more often than not half the group breaks off and chases it.. <shrug>

it would be great if fg's could leave solo people be, but in reality that's simply never going to happen. by far the most groups are random now, in a few rare cases fixed groups will let you live if they respect you (as AD and most of NP have done to me in the past, /wubwub)

best bet is to group with a minstrel or so, when i used to solo on bard its near impossible to catch me with a group if i kept my eyes open, speed 6 is the key to solo/duo'ing in emain. if you really want to solo with your pally, go late night/early morning or get some people to play in hadrians/odins.. sad but true, its the only way for a non stealth non speed class to solo :(

ps. try using scalars charge and stand on spots where rage wolfs usually are and walk around in straight lines, it's the way i solo'd with my eld, doesn't always work but when it does and you kill someone you are so happy you will gladly take another week of fg's trampling you :p
 

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As someone who's solo'd 2 million RPs or so (and duo'd another 3 million+), I can say that groups have always run over soloers with VERY few exceptions (usually it's from a guild/group which has an explicit policy to leave soloers) - it's nice when they /wave, /hug and continue, but it's never been any sort of standard.
But on the same note, I've always attacked FGs while solo, whether on Inf, Reaver, or Sorc (or at least fight back when they come charging) and I've never really tried to avoid groups - but rather try to meet them and fight them on my terms.

I'm used to it, I don't complain, and I get more RPs off them than they get off me :p

Aloca said:
The problem is that all the soloers you leave alive often adds if they see you fight a other fg.
Sorry, nope. Some people may try to use this as 'justification', but really it's always just been about the easy RPs.
 

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dream on :) how many times did BoB gg spare solo ppl? (am not talking about the odd grey con liddul luri shade etc... but lvl 50 soloers)

not much if iam not mistaken :>
 

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just wish the fgs of hibs/mids would stay at amg and not come to atk - ruins the stealther hunting :(
 

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tbh, in todays daoc it's impossible to solo without spending 90% of your time on sendingpad. (think a little before you start the "NO I CAN SOLO JUST FINE, IM SO UBER" - posts)

I usually play as duo or trio with some RL friends, never really liked the solo crap as I dont play for rps but rather the "fun factor". Always more fun to have somebody to talk to etc etc. The last few days i have been mostly soloing and can honestly say it's harder now. Playing the scout, I have the choice to leech of fg vs fg fights... ok it's rps, but not very honournable and not very fun imo. As solo, I rarely get away after a 1 vs 1 fight (those few times I lucky to get one), even if i do everything right and pawn first opponent. 99% of the times, always some kind of add(s). There is no skill/artifacts that can compensate for being outnumbered when playing solo/duo, result = sendingpad.

Imo, ppl should play as they like, but don't claim you solo when you don't. Running with 4 other stealthers, grped or not, is not solo. And please, try to show some respect for your fallen opponents...if you gank somebody 4 to 1-2 there is really no need for /laugh /cry /bow /clap /lame-ass-shit-like-this.

I can honestly say, Im not planning to solo too much. It's not fun to stealth-run 10-15 min, die and repeat...

so come out and play you little zerglings, you won't find a stupid rps-cow any more....
 

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I just like solo cos I don't have to wait on AFKers and can go AFK whenever I want :)
 

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Yaemon said:
BB). DF is the optimal place for it (if you dont have speed)..


prob with that is albs hardly ever have DF ..Grrr .. we get DF for about 10 mins then someone else has got it :puke:
 

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the person that have spend 10 min on pad and another 15mins to take a safe route

Thats the only reason i kill everything i see tbh.. the satisfaction that u just wasted ~15 minutes of another persons sparetime is underrated.
 

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Amadon said:
If there aren't enemies near I try not to kill soloers.. but the rest of my group kill them regardless. If there are enemies near I kill them because I cba taking the risk that they'll add if I don't.
Scouts and Hunters I will kill at any opportunity because they're scum of the earth! :p

pfft :p
 

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while soloing can be fun, I enjoy duoing much more tbh. Yes, I solo sometimes with my bard (less after ToA cause he has SI only) and it's pretty fun to melee as class who is usually known for crap weapons =)) Then again I really prefer to duo and I've experienced that as lots of fun in Odin's....I once duo'd with a farmbot (44 nurt, 31 reg) and it was a real blast to kill that pala/mincer team. After all it's a multiplayer game so I prefer being with other ppl =))

While I played bard I tried to move around soloers, but as vf said, groups often unstick to kill the person. Then again I won't change my route that much if I see a soloer on a main fg route, his problem then =)

hmm...maybe I'm gonna try some soloing with my druid, don't be too hard with me :p
 

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