To all chanters

[jox]

I see something in the horizon... what is that?!

Its coming closer....

Oh, nooo... its a gigantic bat...the dreaded nerfbat!!!

RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Mythic hit them!, hit them hard while I am standing here watching with my hands in my pockets.

 

[Fantasyez]

ok

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by jox
I see something in the horizon... what is that?!

Its coming closer....

Oh, nooo... its a gigantic bat...the dreaded nerfbat!!!

RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Mythic hit them!, hit them hard while I am standing here watching with my hands in my pockets.

uh
only hits mana chanters (in hib), and the nerf isn't that bad tbh

hits body sorcs and rc runies much harder imo

and.. from what I've read on vnwhines, it seems the f'ked up resist system is getting fixed finally (which is a general boost to casters across the board)

 

[jox]

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Originally posted by Fantasyez
ok

Yes, my post was written in mindless rage.

But that dosent matter.

If you dont have anything else to add, why dont you just shut the fuck up?

idiot

 

[jox]

...

Sorry for that last comment. Forget about this worthless thread.

 

[Spamb0t]

Re: ...

:sleeping:

 

[vindicat0r]

Right the nerf bat is inc ?

The heat debuff is being moved to a lvl 49 spell, u will have ALOT less chance of resisting the heat debuff now and chanters get to respec to 50 mana for free in 1.62. no harm no foul.

Dont see how its a nerf, its an improvement actually. Coming here to whine wont help anyway.

The only possible nerf inc is for debuff's to be broke / changed in 1.63 maybe ............ but that effect's everybody then and chanters still have ther biggest killing tool , pbae

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by jox
I see something in the horizon... what is that?!

Its coming closer....

Oh, nooo... its a gigantic bat...the dreaded nerfbat!!!

RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Mythic hit them!, hit them hard while I am standing here watching with my hands in my pockets.

SB's get the bat harder though - move along :x

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by vindicat0r
Right the nerf bat is inc ?

The heat debuff is being moved to a lvl 49 spell, u will have ALOT less chance of resisting the heat debuff now and chanters get to respec to 50 mana for free in 1.62. no harm no foul.

Dont see how its a nerf, its an improvement actually. Coming here to whine wont help anyway.

The only possible nerf inc is for debuff's to be broke / changed in 1.63 maybe ............ but that effect's everybody then and chanters still have ther biggest killing tool , pbae

I thought he was talking about 1.63

1.62 is a boost to chanters but an overall nerf to casters and support (archer love)
the changes in 1.62 might be balanced for mana chanters as a whole

 

[Pin]

Re: Re: To all chanters

Originally posted by Amadon
uh
only hits mana chanters (in hib), and the nerf isn't that bad tbh

hits body sorcs and rc runies much harder imo

If Mythic can be trusted to make sensible changes to the resist system then they will:

1) put a diminished-returns/cap system on resists (I'd prefer diminished-returns);
2) change resist debuffs to work on a percentage of the target's resistance.


By doing 1, this will be a boost to all DD casters, and a minor nerf to resist-buffing classes, and also a nerf to BAoD (i.e. minor nerf to Enchanters).

As for 2... Well, currently if you cast a 50% resist debuff on anyone, the target's resistance will be set to -30%. No matter whether the target had 20% or 90% resist before the debuff. This basically means there is a MASSIVE difference between debuff-nuking, or normal nuking.

With that changed, mana chanters, spirit cabbies and dark carvers will no longer be capping damage with a baseline nuke of a secondary line.

How would this hit a Body Sorc harder? They get an overall increase in the damage with their specline nukes, and if they are debuffing for someone, that person is using a specced nuke.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by vindicat0r
Right the nerf bat is inc ?

The heat debuff is being moved to a lvl 49 spell, u will have ALOT less chance of resisting the heat debuff now and chanters get to respec to 50 mana for free in 1.62. no harm no foul.

Dont see how its a nerf, its an improvement actually. Coming here to whine wont help anyway.

The only possible nerf inc is for debuff's to be broke / changed in 1.63 maybe ............ but that effect's everybody then and chanters still have ther biggest killing tool , pbae

Moving the debuff to 49 means 2.5% less chance to resist. Hardly what I would call a massive difference.

And yes mana chanters still have the pbae... which is completely fine, it's what they've specced for. What they lose is the ability to outdamage specced range-nukers by a factor of 2-3.

 

[chimaira]

Big Lol that chanters whine for a silly change.

Come back when u loose 50% pbaoe dmg or its made to 4 sec cast

 

[Amadon]

Re: Re: Re: To all chanters

Originally posted by Pin
How would this hit a Body Sorc harder? They get an overall increase in the damage with their specline nukes, and if they are debuffing for someone, that person is using a specced nuke.

i thought body sorcs could debuff their own dmg

my mistake

should've been spirit cabbie (body debuff for baseline lifetap)

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by chimaira
Big Lol that chanters whine for a silly change.

Come back when u loose 50% pbaoe dmg or its made to 4 sec cast

you DON'T have 50%+ energy resist?
get better armour, some AoM and some resist buffs like the decent groups out there...

 

[chimaira]

Cant be that hard to understand I mean the Dmg itselfs.

I wasnt talking bout resistances.

<Laugh>

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by chimaira
Cant be that hard to understand I mean the Dmg itselfs.

I wasnt talking bout resistances.

<Laugh>

and what do you think resistances do to the damage itself?

come back when you get a clue what it's like for mages who can't debuff their damage type please.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by chimaira
Cant be that hard to understand I mean the Dmg itselfs.

I wasnt talking bout resistances.

<Laugh>

see the sign on the door that says "Hibernia"? It means we don't like Albion scum hanging around our bar, so move along to the blue oyster and whine there

kthnxbye

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.Nol
see the sign on the door that says "Hibernia"? It means we don't like Albion scum hanging around our bar, so move along to the blue oyster and whine there

kthnxbye

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by Pin

u're not scum tho Pin

 

[wyleia]

Originally posted by jox
I see something in the horizon... what is that?!

Its coming closer....

Oh, nooo... its a gigantic bat...the dreaded nerfbat!!!

RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Mythic hit them!, hit them hard while I am standing here watching with my hands in my pockets.

yes, nerf our spells by making them higher level so they are resisted less.... 50 mana tyvm

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Amadon
u're not scum tho Pin

 

[jox]

...

Originally posted by Amadon
u're not scum tho Pin

But I obviously am...

 

[Amadon]

Re: ...

Originally posted by jox
But I obviously am...

not in my opinion

don't construct offense where it wasn't intended please

I think Nol's post was more of a joke than anything else, and probably a flame at chimera too I guess

 

[Stallion-]

imo they should move debuff to enchantment line...
change the way it debuffs, its way off the scale atm...
fix the resist system so that with higher resists u get diminishing returns so that normal casters that cannot debuff their own baseline nuke can do some godie dmg...

fix the pet issue aswell while their at it....hoping for a nerf... so alll the FoTM chanter reroll...