Tips For a ManaBomb?

[old.Charonel]

Basically this thread is here for all the "to be" mana elds.

during my time with my void eldritch, i've learned pretty much all the tricks of the trade about xping etc... soloing and grouped, so i know what i'm doing with it, however, having only seen mana elds a few times in action, and almost never soloing etc... i'm wondering:

what's the best way to play one?

seems pretty obvious, spam snare DD's then pbaoe, then the usual backup to stunning in an emergency etc..., or just spam pbaoe if grouped, pulling back to single DD the unmezzed one's on uberpulls, but althogh void is simple too, there's various little tricks you can employ, well i'm asking what mana elds have found these to be with their spec line, because i havent had the last 36 lvl's to be able to get used to it

my overall spec is to take mana to 50 with points to get that last snare DD, with the rest in light and then enough leftover points into void to get the first ranged aoe if i want to uncover that fg of stealthers hiding in the gates at the milegate without actually having to stand in the middle of them , so any tips?

of course, RVR tips will be most welcome too.

basically i forsee lots of newbie mana elds appearing at higher lvl's the very second respec comes, i'll be one of them, so i'd like to lessen the amount of xp deaths we all have to suffer during that first little while at least a little

 

[Lessurl]

Traitor.

 

[crackolina]

light!!!

Get your extra half-ding pts into light, aoe mezz (15 secs, but still) and nearsight.

Cya

 

[Danya]

Err Charonel, mana has a ranged AE DD with attack speed debuff you know... So void for AE is pointless.
You should be speccing light for nearsight really.

 

[old.Charonel]

hmmm, the list i read didnt say the aoe debuff was a DD too... kinda didnt expect it to unstealth people, aoe mezz doesnt for example, oh well...

anyway the void spec was just with the 11 points i have left over, nothing to do with so i looked at putting them into void, and low and behold, it's a ranged aoe .

but yes, if the attackspeed debuff is also a DD then using the void one's a bit pointless

 

[Eldri]

Originally posted by Lessurl
Traitor.

Well put Less

 

[old.Mirandalia]

Originally posted by Lessurl
Traitor.

Well said indeed

 

[CBH_Popov]

I'm with Charonel, we can be hung side by side from the gallows outside DL

I'm expecting it to take a week or so to get the hang of the new spell combinations, especially in RvR - might even miss my bolts a little (nothing beats the tension of firing off a bolt and thinking "please let this be the 1 time in 50 it's going to land and do damage")

 

[old.Charonel]

traitor?! you wound me!

it's not a traitor thing... it's just the rats 'n' sinking ship thing

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
hmmm, the list i read didnt say the aoe debuff was a DD too... kinda didnt expect it to unstealth people, aoe mezz doesnt for example, oh well...

anyway the void spec was just with the 11 points i have left over, nothing to do with so i looked at putting them into void, and low and behold, it's a ranged aoe .

but yes, if the attackspeed debuff is also a DD then using the void one's a bit pointless

It's definitely a DD, I tried it when 1.45 first came out (had a mana eld back then). It's pretty weak but it killed the spraggon.

From CoC:
44 Kinetic Siphon 124 -18% 4 sec. 37P Enemy 350 30 sec
that's a 124 damage AE DD with 18% attack speed debuff, lower than the void AE damage but there you go.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Its naff dmg but its good for defending keep, i can kill caster in 3 or 4 nukes with it, and it does attacked speed decrease too
So its ok

But for spec I reccomend 50 mana 20 light, if your an Eld.

Which gives u best PBAOE , Best DD+Snare and best AE Str/Con debuff.
And also 15 sec aoe mezz and 35% nearsight.

 

[old.Charonel]

which is also the spec i listed above , but there's 11 points left over according to char builder and if you dump them into void (can't put them anywhere else) you get the first aoe DD, which is what i meant

thanks for all the spec advice but i know how to spec a mana eld, i was asking about USING one , since i never have before , and if you dont mind, i'd rather not be TOO crap at it!

EDIT: just realised i also added that this is for "to be mana elds", meaning more people than meh , so good point with the spec advice, dont want people gimping themselves on respec

still want advice on actually using one apart from what i mentioned above though

 

[Danya]

Well soloing chain cast snare nukes till the mob gets close then PBAE / qc PBAE if it's alive. Stun if you feel the need to (preferrably in pbae range).
For groups, wait till the tanks have taken aggro and hit that pbae key.
For RvR, uh... kill stuff.

 

[cbh_skyrie]

AoE DD with attack speed reduce
AoE debuff
AoE disease
PBAoE
Snare DD
Stun
Nearsight
AoE mez

That'll be yer tools.

 

[old.Charonel]

indeed they are , much better than

one bolt which does good damage but doesnt hit
one bolt which does ok damage but doesnt hit
one ok DD
one weak aoe DD
one uber weak gtaoe (tested it, did about 3/4 the damage of ranged aoe DD)
stun
aoe mezz
nearsight

which is what i'd have with void, tested full mana out tonight on gorre and have to say i LOVE the snare DD!!!! same damage and power usage as the void one but with an exeptionally good snare effect, had only used the lvl 1 version for pulling before for groups (like groups ever happened ) but when specced it's absolutely sweet, love it, the fact that it, and most mana spells are on energy damage is just mindboggling to someone who's allways thought they were stuck with cold damage for life too

of course the pbaoe just rocks too obviously , but apart from that it's just the sheer utility of the spec that i just love, far more interesting and fun than void. of course, if you DO like void... well then good luck, but i'm respeccing at first oppertunity .