Time for DAOC 2?

[old.Tohtori]

Reporter: So Mr Mythic Boss man, you planning on developing DAoC 2?

Mr Mythic: Well, the thought of making another high end game like this has come across in a few of our meetings.

Reporter: So you've reached any kid of agreement?

Mr Mythic: Our marketing boys were up all night last night and really crunched the numbers and we found out that with the clientbase we have now, the developement costs that would be required and the possibility of new marketing materials that were required for the success of such effort, the plans are deinetly not off the table.

Reporter: So what you're saying is that you'd like to milk some more of the cows while the game is running?

Mr Mythic: The time that the game will be up is entirely up to the clients.

Reporter: You didn't really answer the question. Are you just milking the clients with a crappy game while you could make a new, improved version?

Mr Mythic: We have taken into consideration the feedback we've been getting from the community and as we speak, a new patch is in developement.

Reporter: How does this in any way relate to DAoC 2?

Mr Mythic: Dark Age of Camelot 2 is still under consideration with our legal department.

Reporter: Legal department?! What on earth could be the legal reason not to make one?

Mr Mythic: Copyrights.

Reporter: It's your game!

Mr Mythic: Yes, but we are having some issues with coca-cola company.

Reporter: Coca cola?!

Mr Mythic: Yes, for copyrights.

Reporter: I'm confused....look...just answer this, simply. IS there gonna be a DAoC 2?

Mr Mythic: Maybe.

Reporter: So no?

Mr Mythic: Not quite.

Reporter: So it's a yes?

Mr Mythic: Is there life in the center of the universe?

Reporter: I don't know!

Mr Mythic: Exactly.

 

[Jaem-]

Good luck farming scrolls as a lvl 40...
And getting artifacts at that lvl won't be easy either, unless you go for the ones you won't use in a final template anyways. Not that it's easy as a lvl 50, not at all. I'm sure those new players have no idea what they will be facing in ToA.

Thats why you make friends as your leveling up, joining a guild and get some help, doesn't mean you MUST be lvl50 ml9 pet caster(example) to get anything done, so in fact its quite easy to get things done with whatever level your at...

And yes, I know, there are SOME ppl that enjoy ToA, ppl that like to PvE for instance. (Although I don't see what sitting at a spot for 11 hours has to do with PvE), but those that have recently joined on the servers looking forward to the RvR aspect of daoc are not gonne be pleased when they find out what ToA is all about.

I used to hate PvE so much being a Rogue and all, weak with PvE, but I made some friends and doing quite well without any super duper PvE strong alt.

The guild I've been in for.. well since I started on Albion has always been very helpfull towards me, now that we've had to merge with The Ministry it just seems their all out to help each other without anything in return, very supportive people, I hope other guilds are ran in such away as it would be a shame if their not.

I got Malice credit from a sorc that could solo the encounter with ease, but he took me on to help out even tho he didn't need me, I like that social side to the game.

 

[GReaper]

Where would all the customers for a DAoC2 come from?

Anyone interested in the Camelot based mythology are probably either current or past customers of DAoC. If DAoC2 ended up as a far superior replacement for DAoC, who would play the older game?

It's more logical for a game creator to diversify into totally different games, at least that way their own games aren't directly competing against each other.

 

[spook]

make warhammer online with the rvr from daoc. I don't recall the different races, but there's 2+ sides at least
I know nothing of the earlier makings of Warhammer Online. But it could be a fresh start on a background story

 

[Lestat]

aye warhammer rox

Daoc need a spark, not ballancing(other then maybe nerf some ml's) - no we could use some HEAVY gm created events ala <Murn Grim> is attacking camelot come help all alb's or he will remove Camelot+magicaly destroy all your active artifacts!!! Murn is a badass, mmkay?

 

[Tsabo]

Shut up stupid, you're stupid, your idea are stupid, your chars are stupid, your alts are stupid and your plans for DaoC2 are stupid!

Stupid ¬.¬

Imo, daoc is fine as it is, just needs alot of things ironing out. The idea they seem to be going on is trying to make sure there isn't and end of game state.

Get 50, yay.
Get ML10, yay.
Get a high rr, yay.
Get champion levels, yay.

It's all an on going thing. Whether you rush playing things or don't appreciate the game for the way it was designed and intended to be played is your own fault. Granted there are alot of people that would rather it be more make your char, go out and pwn ass omg wtf i rulez j00 suxors! But it's not intended to be played that way. As all mmorpgs it is designed to progress your char through the levels while you learn your char.

The only things I feel need sorting is actually a pretty major part... the coding. The game is now pretty old and it shows compared to the new games. The lag can be horrendous and never actually really stops. Alot of bugs/tweaks need to be made, warlocks need deleting. But some of these are small things im sure will get sorted in future patches.

Oh and Airalith you're stupid!

 

[Lestat]

...say's the gimped sorc's

Sorc>warlock any day, have to be both braindamaged and homosexual to lose anything with a sorc imho!11

 

[Tsabo]

...say's the gimped sorc's

Sorc>warlock any day, have to be both braindamaged and homosexual to lose anything with a sorc imho!11

How does a sorc kill a class that can deal a good 2k damage within the space of 2 seconds? Please enlighten me.

 

[Honza]

BTW how can one get that 14 days trial? I have only one (got it with Catacombs), but can't decide who to give it since I have quite a few friends who would come online and can't find where to get other 14d trials.... cause of CD-key Alcohol(120%)ing won't help. any idea? (Might be I'm blind I didn't notice download somewhere, but internet downloads of trials I found were all US versions)

 

[old.Whoodoo]

I introduced 2 freinds a few months ago on the trail thingy (btw, GOA you owe me as they both signed up for 3 months and i got nout!! GRRR), and both happily dinged 50, rolled alts, crafted, got a few artis and MLs all at a casual pace. They have also tried WoW, SWG, UO etc etc, and find DAOC in its current form great fun, both PvE and RvR.

In RvR they both die, but as yet the anally retentive RP whore syndrome hasnt kicked in, as when they get flattened by a zerg, they reply "shit happens" and either go back for more, or go do sommit else.

The problems you all have with the game stems not from game dynamics or poor coding, but this insatiable (sp?) appetite for RPs and WTFPWNing, rather than taking a chill pill and having some fun. You also pass this rather depressive attitude onto others, saying things like "Its great, I WTFPWN but warcocks/sorcs/animists/woteva are OPd and kick my arse making me want to commit suicide by cutting my wrist with the back of a spoon!", hardly inviting is it.

As for leveling, these 2 chaps and many others I know have leveled the way Reqiuel has described, but the ones moaning here are also the ones who ruined the way people leveled, its you who wanted PL, so now everyone wants it, its become a pre-requisit these days, the same goes for artis and MLs, you all expect them to be handed to you on a silver platter. Mythic make it all easier at your demand and you are still not happy, Im surprised the topic of "insta level 50 + TOA + SI server" hasnt come up again.

Someone mentioned also the days when excal had 3k players at peak, odd how back then we all leveled the old grind way, made groups with random people, made freinds with anyone we could and had fun, now things are easy, everyone is crying that its hard...err right. Now people dont group with peeps they dont know, in PvE or RvR, and the latest in this antisocial bull shit is "j00 added on meh target f*ck you gay boy", which is complete shit IMO.

What I guess Im trying to say is that theres little wrong with this game other than the people playing it, as the old saying goes "a poor workman blames his tools", and this is very true for this game. Rolling a DAOC2 will fix nothing, the mentality of the players just moves from game to game, to the state any MMORPG will turn into something thats there for fame and money, not fun. Unfortunately theres nothing anyone can do to fix this.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

BTW how can one get that 14 days trial? I have only one (got it with Catacombs), but can't decide who to give it since I have quite a few friends who would come online and can't find where to get other 14d trials.... cause of CD-key Alcohol(120%)ing won't help. any idea? (Might be I'm blind I didn't notice download somewhere, but internet downloads of trials I found were all US versions)

If you go onto your subs page, you have the option to "introduce a freind" to DAOC, just fill in their email addys and they get to download the trial. If they sign up, you get some free game time depending on how long they sign up for.

 

[Gahn]

Daoc 2 = Warhammer Online if it ever sees the light, that's your answer ^^

 

[Honza]

If you go onto your subs page, you have the option to "introduce a freind" to DAOC, just fill in their email addys and they get to download the trial. If they sign up, you get some free game time depending on how long they sign up for.

thx

 

[Kinag]

One problem with the invite a friend thing is that it does not include catacombs.

I want to introduce my friends to the game, but they won't play it unless it looks a bit good, and let's face it, the game didn't look great pre-catacombs when it comes to characters etc.

 

[Honza]

Aye, it's true it would be much more persuative if the invitation version ran with the newest datadisc/patches. Better graphics won't bring hard core players, but could bring much more common players. Imho if the game is truly good, good graphics is a cherry on the top of the cake, but not the essential part of a game (like in Gothic/Gothic II with well set up ini files).

 

[Himse]

I'd like to see DaoC two - I'd come back to play that I reckon.

I think the whole idea of realms should be scrapped in favour extending the historical flavour to outside of Europe mythos. A few suggestions to get the creative juices flowing...

Zulu: Medicine man, Warrior (shapechanger?)
Aztec/Mayan: Priest (totems with shamanic flavour) Headhunter (warrior with debuffs maybe?)
Japanese/Chinese: Mage, Samurai, Ninja etc.
Mongol: Barbarian (savagesque perhaps?) mounted bowman
Bushman: Hunter (stealth, tracking etc.) Tribal Elder (summoning, buffs etc?)

There's loads more historical archetypes spring to mind such as Greek hoplite, Aboriginal wiseman, Indian guru - I'm sure you can all think of more! - the sky's the limit really.

It would be cool to see the whole thing guild based with big, big guilds to include more emphasis on the social side of the game and the ability for any guild to take any sort of character from anywhere. Keeping guilds from talking to each other with the exception of maybe five senior officers would keep flaming down and also create a more diplomatic approach to maintaining alliances, issuing challenges and generally keeping the guild successful without being constantly at war with everyone else.

A voting system from inside each guild taken over the weekend would keep the guild leaders in check and would set out the guild's PvP strategy for the week. Of course if you're at war with every other guild on the server PvE is going to become a complete chore so the server becomes self policing to a large extent. If you want to be at war with everyone don't expect to level fast! Shifting alliances and guild politics would become as important as PvP skill.

Just a few thoughts there really

Was they around in Medievil times? me thinks not

no way daoc 2, if mythic gave the customers something the liked (they are slowly getting there wit the new SI server) then more people would probably play

just give OF rvr back.

 

[Fana]

Then don't do it that way.
Level to 40 then start doing MLs as you level up. Get artifacts as and when you can. Level those up while you exp yourself. Earn exp while you farm scrolls. By the time you are 50 you can already have a decent ML with level 10 artifacts. I know plenty of people who do things that way around. If you level to 50 and only then do all the artifacts, scroll farming, MLs etc then it will take longer but there's no rule saying you have to do it in that order.

This is true, did it with my shadowblade, started getting artifacts at level 45 and had most ready for when i was 50. Only got to ML3 though, still the ML's are actually nice exp. Still its hard if you dont have alot of dedicated friends in the game to help you with the artifact part, and random grouping was still close to nonexistant when i last played in the weeks after catacombs was introduced.

 

[griralith]

And keeping all 3 games updated and patched is going to be keeping them VERY busy.

They cant even get 1 game working... so why make a new...

but a nice idea though

 

[Sarumancer]

Warhammer Online == Daoc 2

 

[old.windforce]

I leveled a vampiir on Avalon. Played him relax mode without PL and even helpen some lowbee guildees on the way (tagged a leve 22 champ while i was 29 etc.

Now that i dinged level 46 i decided to check my /played. I was pretty amazed that even though i played 1-46 and even got around 100-ish in tradeskill i had 5 days played. Even if i play really slow the last 3 levels (ill get freelevel 47-48) i will manage to ding 50 in around 7 days /played. Getting ML10 and getting my arti won't take more then 10 /days played

Comparing this to my first - third level 50 who had /played 25 days-ish. i think the game has improved overal in lessen the PvE grind. If you insist in getting gay artifacts like GoLM then the grind is a lot worse but even GoV doesn't take more then 10-20 hours played to either buy or farm

I do think the PvE grind is less then the first 2 years in DAOC. its just gets more annoying after my 19th level 50

 

[Dreami]

Warhammer Online will be the next RvR-MMO from mythic 8] or so they've said that it will include yarrveeyarr

 

[Raven]

I'd like to see DaoC two - I'd come back to play that I reckon.

I think the whole idea of realms should be scrapped in favour extending the historical flavour to outside of Europe mythos. A few suggestions to get the creative juices flowing...

Zulu: Medicine man, Warrior (shapechanger?)
Aztec/Mayan: Priest (totems with shamanic flavour) Headhunter (warrior with debuffs maybe?)
Japanese/Chinese: Mage, Samurai, Ninja etc.
Mongol: Barbarian (savagesque perhaps?) mounted bowman
Bushman: Hunter (stealth, tracking etc.) Tribal Elder (summoning, buffs etc?)

There's loads more historical archetypes spring to mind such as Greek hoplite, Aboriginal wiseman, Indian guru - I'm sure you can all think of more! - the sky's the limit really.

It would be cool to see the whole thing guild based with big, big guilds to include more emphasis on the social side of the game and the ability for any guild to take any sort of character from anywhere. Keeping guilds from talking to each other with the exception of maybe five senior officers would keep flaming down and also create a more diplomatic approach to maintaining alliances, issuing challenges and generally keeping the guild successful without being constantly at war with everyone else.

A voting system from inside each guild taken over the weekend would keep the guild leaders in check and would set out the guild's PvP strategy for the week. Of course if you're at war with every other guild on the server PvE is going to become a complete chore so the server becomes self policing to a large extent. If you want to be at war with everyone don't expect to level fast! Shifting alliances and guild politics would become as important as PvP skill.

Just a few thoughts there really

fantasic post, some very good ideas

 

[Brite]

Warhammer Online will be the next RvR-MMO from mythic 8] or so they've said that it will include yarrveeyarr

lets hope they make the same mistakes all over again