This cheating?

Cozak

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Cheating or ''working as intended'' small races hiding inside presence nodes so they can attack you but you cannot target them....
 

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would be to close would have seen thru stealth then :p
 

Morchaoron

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For the abusers: intended and no exploit ofc since its in game and no h4x = no cheat!1111
For the victims: obviously exploiting
For mythic towards the players: working as intended, *insert excuses like 'f8' and 'kobolds can hide in trolls too' here*
For mythic in reality: stupid mistake we could have avoided, but profit > quality so we will change it if people whine too much about it
 

lefo

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All fonts get completely diff look in 1.69 so no hiding anymore.
 

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Cozak said:
Cheating or ''working as intended'' small races hiding inside presence nodes so they can attack you but you cannot target them....
Their names still stick up above the PN so just click on that ^^
 

paldius

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an other question is this cheating?

putting mushrooms at lord (on the windowborder) and kill lord before second door is down.
 

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Zebolt said:
Their names still stick up above the PN so just click on that ^^

Couldnt see it though due to range, if i got to close would be uncovered by the bastid node :p But if they are getting changed dont matter to much :)
damn lurikeens!
 

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paldius said:
an other question is this cheating?

putting mushrooms at lord (on the windowborder) and kill lord before second door is down.


Im not sure about GOA statements; and I think while its a lame tactic its not cheating. When a couple of wallclimbers climb over and gank a lord it aint cheating either. Using class-abilities (to the extreme) aint cheating in my book.

Alot of stuff is 'lame' but not cheating. Hell some entire classes are lame but to call em cheaters goes abit far. Some classes truely rock in keep-defense/offense, others rock in 1 vs 1 and others in PvE, some suck in everything; thats the game....
 

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Its not cheating, this is a bonus to small races imo :p

paldius said:
an other question is this cheating?

putting mushrooms at lord (on the windowborder) and kill lord before second door is down.

Not cheating but somehting they need to fix obviousely, its the GTAOE targetting system, used to be able to hit lord on my rm from 2nd floor in some keeps.
 

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Morchaoron said:
For the abusers: intended and no exploit ofc since its in game and no h4x = no cheat!1111
For the victims: obviously exploiting
For mythic towards the players: working as intended, *insert excuses like 'f8' and 'kobolds can hide in trolls too' here*
For mythic in reality: stupid mistake we could have avoided, but profit > quality so we will change it if people whine too much about it

give them a break, its 10000000000000000 things ppl want changed.
 

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paldius said:
an other question is this cheating?

putting mushrooms at lord (on the windowborder) and kill lord before second door is down.

probably u already know,that if u put shrooms in window to kill lord u wont be able to kill him,as he stop losein hp at 10% :touch: am not sayin tho that if some voideld groundassist to the animist lord wont die without even touchin doors :m00: and its doable with most common gtae without shrooms,shrooms just make it faster,and guess what?its only works on alb and mid keeps,our lords dont have a window :eek:
 

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awww adorable, have to say for the first time luri > kobbie
 

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That isn't cheating .

Cheating would be hiding in a wall bug so you CAN'T actually attack them and they can attack you.

Theres a simple way around this problem, its called the 'Nearest Enemy Key'.

If you dont have one, or use it, then i'd advise that you should :)
 

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Cozak said:
...if i got to close would be uncovered by the bastid node...
That's kind of the whole point about them nodes, isn't it?
 

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Botond said:
probably u already know,that if u put shrooms in window to kill lord u wont be able to kill him,as he stop losein hp at 10% :touch: am not sayin tho that if some voideld groundassist to the animist lord wont die without even touchin doors :m00: and its doable with most common gtae without shrooms,shrooms just make it faster,and guess what?its only works on alb and mid keeps,our lords dont have a window :eek:


True, thats why animist use the VERDANT PBAOE to finish lord. Using the usual F'n'F shrooms brings lord to 10%.
 

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Collision detection has always been a pain.. take people running throgh casters when they quick cast for example .. sooks!!
 

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dont nodes have about 1 hit point?

Being sneaky is one of the better parts of this game imo (within the rules ofc) nuking people when they dont know where you are and are totaly confused, hiding in trolls and bolting people, vollying bots at pk's, stealing the opposing realms socks and vests when nobody is looking so their chain chafes etc ;)
 

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paldius said:
an other question is this cheating?

putting mushrooms at lord (on the windowborder) and kill lord before second door is down.
As far as I know it isn't cheating. It's a feature Mythic introduced with the advent of 'snap to' points. Will be worse for Albs and Mids with NF, that said I think Mythic have fixed the problems where shrooms where 'snapping to' locations where the animist had no LoS (i.e. inside towers / keeps).

1.69 puts in a 15 shroom cap, means Animists will switch from casting 40+ level 20 ish shrooms to 15 level 50 ones. Makes it a little easier for defenders to deal with and high level Guards are less susceptable (you'll need 3 - 4 Animist to get the 2-hit for the shrooms to hit, which you'll generally only get on Relic Raids). Hopefully will help lag also, can hardly move when there is 60 shrooms up.
 

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Zebolt said:
Their names still stick up above the PN so just click on that ^^

Hmm does having very short names and guild-names count as cheating then? since they stick out less? :m00:
 

Maleg

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clearbrook said:
Hmm does having very short names and guild-names count as cheating then? since they stick out less? :m00:
Doesn't matter - everybody is <race> <realm rank> to their enemys :p
 

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