Theurg respec

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old.mattshanes

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What is the best one :

45 earth 26 ice 4 air

45 air 26 earth 4 ice

Or anyone know a good rvr spec other then these?how well does air do in rvr?
 
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old.Bubble

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i'd say your 45wind 26 earth 4 ice is the best for RvR

Wind nukes does just less damage than the fire spec nuke(depending on resists etc)
you also get a ghetto aoe mez that lasts 30ish secs (through 30secs is well enough in most RvR encounters)
all your basicly giving up is 4 seconds difference in BT :/
 
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sru

Guest
Originally posted by old.mattshanes


45 air 26 earth 4 ice

It seems general agreement on most servers that, pending a revamp of pets to actually make them usable, the Air spec with 10 sec PBT is good.

My concern is that if they ever fix pets, then the highest pets spec will rock (my current one).
 
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old.mattshanes

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I am thinking of doing :

47 air
26 earth
5 ice

Since my current spec gimped a bit at start but still is ok:

41 earth
30 ice
19 wind

Hehe i went kind of strange for first 20 lvs by putting points in all specs it was my first char so what do you expect:D
 
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cHodAX

Guest
I am not happy we are getting one respec, thats just utter bullshit. Testers on gorre got to try out the other lines without damaging their huge time investment on the main server. Players on our server get bugger all, if you don't like your respec you have effectively gimped your character and 8 months of work have gone down the shitter. WTG GOA! It is the last 1 month subscritption you get from me.
 
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old.mattshanes

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Fuck it i going to go for that spec it should be ok since i nuke a lot anyway and besides archers soon shoot through pbt so doen't matter really,at least 2 nukes can kill them:)
 
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robillard

Guest
if you're scared about the consequences of respeccing, the simple answer is, dont respec
 
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old.mattshanes

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I got nothing to lose anyway really.
 
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-Nxs-

Guest
Originally posted by old.cHodAX
I am not happy we are getting one respec, thats just utter bullshit. Testers on gorre got to try out the other lines without damaging their huge time investment on the main server. Players on our server get bugger all, if you don't like your respec you have effectively gimped your character and 8 months of work have gone down the shitter. WTG GOA! It is the last 1 month subscritption you get from me.

I dont understand this, you created your chatacter from L1 upwards and spec'd how you saw fit. The only major lines that I can see have changed are Earth Wiz:GTAOE and Cleric:SMITE

The /respec was designed to allow players the chance to change thier character to fit in with the new spell/style lines. Unless you play a wizard/cleric then there really should be no need to respec, unless of course you gimped your character from the start in which case you only have yourself to blame.

I stand corrected if other classes have been drasticaly changed, but I have short memory... still the point is the same
 
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cHodAX

Guest
Read the post, I am not complaining about anything other than the fact that Excal and other servers got a chance to test their respecs, we got fek all.
 
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Jenkz

Guest
in the light of all theurgs respeccing to air:

IN MEMORY OF THE ORIGINAL AIR THEURGS !!!

Teoz and Krissy :D
 
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Euthanasia.

Guest
clerics got fucked over by goa/mythic/whichever wanker came up with the bright idea to rape smite to pieces..
wtg ..thanks ..yes goa your cool!
:m00:
<najwa has left the building>
 
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old.Jadow

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Originally posted by -Nxs-


I dont understand this, you created your chatacter from L1 upwards and spec'd how you saw fit. The only major lines that I can see have changed are Earth Wiz:GTAOE and Cleric:SMITE

The /respec was designed to allow players the chance to change thier character to fit in with the new spell/style lines. Unless you play a wizard/cleric then there really should be no need to respec, unless of course you gimped your character from the start in which case you only have yourself to blame.

I stand corrected if other classes have been drasticaly changed, but I have short memory... still the point is the same

Or... some people may have risen the odd realm rank or five since they spec'd their character... Kinda nice to take points away from one thing and pop it in another :)
 
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old.Jadow

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By sheer amusing co-incidence, my sig was out of date ;)

pheer :D
 
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Krissy

Guest
\o/

I did tell everyone since day 1 of the server i was going air and i got called a GIMP now whos teh gimp ?:p

AIR OWNS.

To day ive spoken to 5 theurgists and all have respeced to air, 2 of the are still thinking about it and the ones that have respeced have all said "OMG AIR ROX".

I rest my case :D
 
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Krissy

Guest
PBT is an issue but an air theurgist has not to bad CC, has an aoe mez, and an aoe root, with a PBT if speced properly and good nukes.

granted the 10 sec PBT aint HUGE but for a caster 10 secs and 8 secs have no difference its a 2 secs more watching themselfs die :p

Anyway theurgists that spec air and for the 10 sec pbt have group BT for events so all they need to do is cast it every 5 secs to make a 5 sec PBT. I use to do it in my old guilds LB epic events, works great.
 
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Levin the Blue

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I was going to delete Levin anyway, so respec was a simple matter as i didn't care too much. I went:

28 earth
10 ice
45 air

1 spec point unused.

I took a little trip to emain just to test it out... a bit more damage was done but nothing jaw-dropping.
 
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lacroix

Guest
Whatever lights your candle

Ingame and on boards everyone I speak to/read of seems to suggest that the air focus is best (for rvr in any case).

I am sure all those people are right (can't be bothered doing the math myself), but I still love my Ice focus spec (going for 45 Ice, 26, Earth, myself).

Call me gimp, then, but I like it - it's fun for me, so a "hooray" to all those theurgs that don't follow the air spec trend (and just as well "enjoy yours" to those that do).
:)

/salute
 
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old.mattshanes

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Well i guess its what you like but i wanted a change and i was gimped a bit anyway since it was my first character a while ago.
 
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GReaper

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Anyone staying with Ice is insane. 33% more power consumption for nukes on a much more common resist line. Used to be a good alternative with so many smite clerics around, but spirit resist seems to be forgotten about these days with the smite nerfs.

Would be nice for Ice to have some nice unique spell, but until then /respec all to 45 air, 26 earth and spares ice. But I'm not particularly bothered as I'm having more fun on the Friar at the moment. :)
 
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old.Bubble

Guest
Originally posted by Krissy
\o/

I did tell everyone since day 1 of the server i was going air and i got called a GIMP now whos teh gimp ?:p

AIR OWNS.

To day ive spoken to 5 theurgists and all have respeced to air, 2 of the are still thinking about it and the ones that have respeced have all said "OMG AIR ROX".

I rest my case :D

Leveling a air spec theugist is like exping a matter spec sorcerer and telling the group you don't aoe mez...people normaly invite a theugist hopeing for bladeturn :p not a ghetto aoe mez :p
 
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old.Bubble

Guest
sooo....
exping a earth theugist and then respecing after the items/endgame to air for RvR was a good idea :D
 
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-Nxs-

Guest
Originally posted by Krissy
\o/

I did tell everyone since day 1 of the server i was going air and i got called a GIMP now whos teh gimp ?:p

AIR OWNS.

To day ive spoken to 5 theurgists and all have respeced to air, 2 of the are still thinking about it and the ones that have respeced have all said "OMG AIR ROX".

I rest my case :D

You didnt speak to me :) Mainly keeping Naque as a support/PvE character, so will be staying at least 45 earth I think... still got another 15 bubs to change my mind tho.
 
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Jenkz

Guest
Originally posted by old.Bubble
Leveling a air spec theugist is like exping a matter spec sorcerer and telling the group you don't aoe mez...people normaly invite a theugist hopeing for bladeturn :p not a ghetto aoe mez :p

air theurgs outdamage wizzies on undeads (lot of undeads in dungeons), they are sometimes grouped for wizard-like damage in groups as well as PBT. please never group an air theurg for CC in PvE, they just cant do it :) 1250range 25sec AE mez is really not designed for PvE - at best their CC is some handy defence in open field RvR.

any theurg not going for the 10sec pbt is missing out really, it may not be great for open field RvR, but PvE events and keeps its very useful.

ive always been a massive advocate of air theurgists having leveled with one from 1-50. quite ironic the number of people who used to put down the air line now have it at 45 or more - when its not actually been made any better :)
 
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Krissy

Guest
Also the Ghosty things (chyraheths or something) in pennies drop lvl 50 cloth which is on the whole a nice bit of armour.

U can lvl off these from lvl 45 (with ur lvl 45 nuke) reasonably easy and for added safety get a cleric to stun for u and u are killing lvl 50+ mobs with ease + getting good cash/xp/armour.

Undeads litter albion and this is y spirit damge clearly owns for lvling too, lyon has farmers/undead goblin things, snowdonia has grims/chyrs/, pennies has chyras, and with this new "keep xp bonus" the chyras will be even better xp :D.

LvLing with air is not hard its actualy very easy once u stop trying to kill things with pets and use the nukes too, u just need to know what to kill (which is relitivly easy as theres many undead mobs).

I have found lvling with air since day one very easy after i got the hang of it, and having Jenkz (my friendly cleric) its been made easier with the adition of smite which is also spirit damge (handy for the mobs we target) and stuning as well as nice buffs/healing.

Air is a good line for lvling but not if ppl expect theurgists to have a PBT all the time as thast the albion downfall :(
 
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pbuck

Guest
Currently respecced to 26 earth 5 ice 47 wind(from 45 earth 29 ice 4 wind)
Also respecced my ras to include moc+purge
I feel this is a good choice for rvr since it gives u definately more offensive capabilities than speccing in earth(killer nuke+aoe mezz which is usually not resisted).
Difference in nukes(air-vs ice) is not immense, yet i find that air saves mana for more castings(i can nuke more targets now than i could with my old spec) plus the 10 sec pbt drains less mana
Air is offensive and active Earth is defensive and passive(pbt is bot style),what seems more fun in rvr to u?
And on a little side note.Earth pets still BLOW.You can still outrun them(using sprint) so whats the point of them being a little faster?Mythic can nerf a class well it seems(aka smite clerics,archers)but has no idea how to boost this one.
PBuck finally White
 
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old.mattshanes

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Pbuck i respecced to that same spec as yours too and it has made my rvr time more worthwhile,also having much more resists and hp now i seem to do better.
 

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