The sidi robe drama continues

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Athis

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Well, some of the people who were on the raid a few weeks back on which apparently the friar epic replacement robe dropped might still remember that this rumored robe never did make it to the lootsplit. I'm not entirely sure if there was anything done about it afterwards and frankly had pretty much forgotten it happening already but today I got "reminded" of it in DF

I wouldn't mind civilized conversation on the subject, even though it's rather pointless as I'm nearly totally sure that if anyone actually would've had the robe it would've been turned in. But does Auril really have the right to call me a bitch and a twat among other things and threaten me just because I didn't end up with the blame (which would've been rather illogical even though I was the only friar in the group, atleast if the log entries that were said were even correct) for the disappearance of the robe?

This post shouldn't be interpreted as any form of attack on Order of the Sacred Heart, I don't have any problem with them. Nor do I particularly wish to get Auril flamed, I actually was going to remove her name from here but for some reason ended up not doing so. But do any of you consider this acceptable behaviour for a guild GM?

Removed the link and figured I might as well remove the content control again (I just can't decide what to do, go me :( ), full log a bit down the page anyway so rather pointless
 
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Bellona

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no.

infact, i feel sorry for the members of the guild
 
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Lundarian

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hmmm, doesn't make much sence... and frankly I don't believe that conversation happened in mainchat, as recently posted a while ago: posting logs proves nothing.

I think it is best to just forget that robe ever dropped, less headache I mean :rolleyes:
 
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Athis

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Originally posted by Lundarian
hmmm, doesn't make much sence... and frankly I don't believe that conversation happened in mainchat, as recently posted a while ago: posting logs proves nothing.

I think it is best to just forget that robe ever dropped, less headache I mean :rolleyes:

It did happen in main chat in DF outside the hib portal, was me and Auril and one of Auril's guildies there. And as I said, it wasn't my idea to resurrect the beaten horse of the vaporized sidi robe.
 
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Fagane

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_IF_ That log is true I hope his name will be posted here to.

Fagane
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

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Just give the damn name. There haven't been enough quality flames on this forum in the past few weeks and as a result crafting is a lot slower these days. ;)
 
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Falcor

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athis that a full log?

i got a pm about this earlier tonight, expecting screenshots sometime in my email, sounds like it got out of hand tho, and it sounds a bit like u were winding him up, not a good thing to do
 
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Ekydus

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Bad editing. You left the name in at the bottom of the Screenie...

Oh and I think I feel sorry for that immature player... So much anger.
 
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old.Downanael

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You forgot name on bottom :)

Edit: Already mentioned but dont feel to delete this one either ;)
 
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Thamiles

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Oohhh how exiting, honest.
Missed the point with the post btw.
 
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Sacr|Cabatron

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yeah that was a falcor raid

The Armsman Crown wasnt at lotto either as when it dropped i remebered about it and was going to lotto for it but it wasnt their and i was 100% sure it droped cause i went to check the stats on that sidi items website
 
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Athis

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Originally posted by Ekydus
Bad editing. You left the name in at the bottom of the Screenie...

Oh and I think I feel sorry for that immature player... So much anger.

Sigh, I knew I shouldn't try to post anything like this while half asleep after staying up for about 20 hours straight :rolleyes:. But trying is the most important thing right? :p Guess it's not such a bad thing, anyone with some clue of what originally happened on that raid could probably have worked it out easy enough, and besides I really don't have much reason to protect Auril :m00:.

Originally posted by Sissyfoo
Just give the damn name. There haven't been enough quality flames on this forum in the past few weeks and as a result crafting is a lot slower these days. ;)

Your wish is my command oh bored crafter :rolleyes:

Anyway, here's the largest log I have of the incident (I tend not to run the chat logger, mostly because I always forget it even exists):

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~cruzz/fullmonty.jpg

If some don't think it's the full log, well, I guess it's their right to do so and I can't really prove it any better than this.
 
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bob007

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So much anger.............

Send the pic to GoA and get them to check it out under harassment. If it happened as it looks like on the screenie, A nice 3 day holiday might cool him down.......

Might want to send uneditted screenie there way tho :)
 
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old.TeaSpoon

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I think he's just done bigger damage to the guilds image by saying those things like he did then any of the accusations which fell due to the missing robe.
 
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belth

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They'll just give him a warning if that's his 1st offence.
 
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Athis

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Originally posted by belth
They'll just give him a warning if that's his 1st offence.

I don't particularly feel the need to report Auril for harassement, after all it was the first time she(or he, I wouldn't really know) did this (well, apparently Auril did say somewhat similar things to others about me back in the days right after the raid but that might be a false rumor). But if she decides to slag me off another time I might actually try to get in contact with the elusive GOA customer support.
 
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belth

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I've had fairly quick response from GOA on those few occasions I've reported someone for harrassment, eg. going "YOU STUPID BLIND FUCK" when I didn't see a luri caster in water at near clip range etc...
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

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Originally posted by belth
I've had fairly quick response from GOA on those few occasions I've reported someone for harrassment, eg. going "YOU STUPID BLIND FUCK" when I didn't see a luri caster in water at near clip range etc...

Sorry, but this made me giggle a bit. I am sure it wasn't so funny for you though. :)
 
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Falcor

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Originally posted by Sacr|Cabatron
yeah that was a falcor raid

The Armsman Crown wasnt at lotto either as when it dropped i remebered about it and was going to lotto for it but it wasnt their and i was 100% sure it droped cause i went to check the stats on that sidi items website

sacr i think u got mixed up m8, u only person who remembers this, armsman crown is defiled sanguine crown, we had a defiled defiled petulant crown, and there is also sanguine silk crown, its easy tog et em mixed up in rush m8 :)
 
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magebane

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FROM AURIL.

I am the person athis is whining on about a.k.a. auril. Firstly lets me start by saying this i have to send a screenie of our conversation where athis admits to stealing it from our group of which she was attached. However i need some technical assistance as i dont know how to open my screenshot <hence the reason i havent sent it to falcor as promoise last night, i spent an hour trying to work out how to do this>. Secondly i as guild leader of the sacred heart wanted to clear an innocent of any accusations that he stole the items < i think its every gl responcibility to stand up for his guild members if right and that is all i did> On the topic of childish name calling and immature false accusations yes i called her a quote "selfish Bitch" but there was good reason for this a small explanation is required so here goes. Athis said that Ghostfeet < a member of my guild> was blamed for the theft and she got away scott free. Now stupidly enough not only did athis say this in main chat as stated at the hibby portal witnessed by blackhatred another member of my guild, but she was careless enough to let me take a screenie of it <which i am currently trying to send to falcor <thats why i need help from the techy people> I am sorry that this has got blown all out of proportion but i feel the defence of my guildy who's conduct has been exceptional within the guild and as far as i know throughout albion was totally called for. Soon as i get told how to send the screenie to falcor i will and i will also have a screenie link on here for all to see now flame me as you wish but i will defend my members if possible against any wrong doing. i will close on a moto we have in our guild, every now and again people will face sacrifice. Yet to sacrifice oneself for the saviour of a stranger is the most noble act a hero can perform. Thanks for reading this post let the flaming commence.
 
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yeahyeah

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Download a proggy called irfanview. That is what i have used in the past, it lets u view your screenshots. But tbh. all u need to do, is on the attachement thingy on your email that u are sending to falcor, just point it to where the screeny is located in your mythic. There shouldnt be a problem really as even if u cant view the screen shot Falcor will be able to.
 
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old.TeaSpoon

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Re: FROM AURIL.

Originally posted by magebane
On the topic of childish name calling and immature false accusations yes i called her a quote "selfish Bitch" but there was good reason for this

Wrong.

As a GM there is never room for childish name calling.
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

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You are supposed to be setting an example for your guild and ~shudder~ the hundreds of impressionable children who have stolen their parents' credit cards to make their accounts. It can be hard to keep your cool when someone is insulting a guild member but its always best to stay calm and take screenies instead. If you need to blow off steam then punch a hole in the wall. :)
 
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Athis

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Re: FROM AURIL.

Originally posted by magebane
I am the person athis is whining on about a.k.a. auril.


I'm not whining about you per se, more about your behaviour which in my opinion is/was rather unacceptable for a guild GM.


Firstly lets me start by saying this i have to send a screenie of our conversation where athis admits to stealing it from our group of which she was attached.


Yes, it's called sarcasm and maybe I was trying to somewhat annoy you as well which wasn't such a smart thing to do but as people say, hindsight is 20/20. Do you really think I'd actually show it to everyone here if I actually believed it would be interpreted as proof of me committing a heinous crime against humanity?

Secondly i as guild leader of the sacred heart wanted to clear an innocent of any accusations that he stole the items < i think its every gl responcibility to stand up for his guild members if right and that is all i did>


Nothing wrong with that, I just rather question your method of doing this


On the topic of childish name calling and immature false accusations yes i called her a quote "selfish Bitch" but there was good reason for this a small explanation is required so here goes. Athis said that Ghostfeet < a member of my guild> was blamed for the theft and she got away scott free.


Oh, there's always a "good" reason for slagging off others. Now if you'd care to look through what I said in my first post in this thread:
I'm nearly totally sure that if anyone actually would've had the robe it would've been turned in
You seem to have gotten this perverse view that I was somehow trying to accuse Ghostfeet and that I also was the only one who thought that way and by some miracle my opinion was the which made it unjustly through. As far as I remember, I never once said that Ghostfeet HAD to be the guilty one. And my view that he was the most likely miscreant came purely from someone else in the group saying that according to the log the robe went to Ghostfeet in the loot autosplit


Now stupidly enough not only did athis say this in main chat as stated at the hibby portal witnessed by blackhatred another member of my guild, but she was careless enough to let me take a screenie of it <which i am currently trying to send to falcor <thats why i need help from the techy people>


What makes talking to you in main any more stupid than talking to you with PMs except that normal say slightly less work? And why and also how exactly should I have stopped you from taking a screenshot of it?


I am sorry that this has got blown all out of proportion but i feel the defence of my guildy who's conduct has been exceptional within the guild and as far as i know throughout albion was totally called for. Soon as i get told how to send the screenie to falcor i will and i will also have a screenie link on here for all to see now flame me as you wish but i will defend my members if possible against any wrong doing.

Yes, perhaps the whole robe issue has been blown out of proportion but who exactly did it, the people who were willing to forget about it or you who brought the dead flogged horse back from the grave to be beaten up once again?

And you shouldn't worry too much about sending the screenie to Falcor, after all as you will easily see if you actually read the post, I already have included a full log of what was said in our little quaint meeting.

Anyway, you should really study your Sidi drops better, you should know by now that the robe has the epic graphics (like your robe :p <-- notice, a joke, I'm not implying you are wearing the stolen robe) and unfortunately my robe is rather lacking on any sort of peculiar graphics, actually it looks remarkably like a crafted one. So either I've somehow hax0red into the game and changed the robe graphics for myself (so likely!), I stole it purely for the satisfaction of having one in my vault that I could never use, sold it off to someone for tons of cash (but shouldn't someone have started using a epic graphics robe if that was the case? :p) or (shockingly) I never touched the damned thing?

This thread wasn't meant to be about the robe and the subsequent punishments which may have befallen some people due to it (in my opinion unrightly so, but that's not really for me to decide), it was about your rather despicable behaviour. Do you really think it will raise the opinion others have of you and your guild if you handle things as diplomatically as you did in DF?
 
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acei

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*sigh* don't you just wish this was a PvP server for a day? All this could be sorted out in 1 big brawl :)
 
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Athis

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Originally posted by acei
*sigh* don't you just wish this was a PvP server for a day? All this could be sorted out in 1 big brawl :)

There's always /duel but I guess it's not the same :)
 
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belth

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Originally posted by Sissyfoo
Sorry, but this made me giggle a bit. I am sure it wasn't so funny for you though. :)

Oh it actually was a bit after it had happened. Was still incredibly rude.
 

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