The SI Classes

[Turamber]

It's been noted that a few people have enough spare time on their hands to now have SI alts in Thidranki. Can I ask: How do they get on there, and what are your thoughts on your new allies and your new opposition.

My little reaver is now level 7, fear me ... in about 1 months time

 

[Delket]

Hmm i have a 24 necro and altho i not played in thid much yet, seems fun yet awkward to get the pet in the right place.
Ill let you know more when ive actually met a few enemies ;P

 

[saijan_WarLord]

is it the bonedancers that got 2 pets? the skelle healer and the returned commander!? they are really screwed annyoing, i noticed today, everytime i bolted a Sylvan i got insta DD's back in face.

 

[toxx]

watch out for reavers... they got a medium stun style they will have for BGs that chains off blocking. and their side position style REALLLLLLY hurts.

be careful

 

[djohn2001]

dont forget our AoE Snare and PBAoE we can get our main corps in the middle of your bad asses and get our pets to NUKE you are long range

 

[Biermann]

was a necromancer in bg today that somehow got his bet to hide inside a rock or something, untouchtable for everyone who dont have pbae/gtae. pretty lame :/

 

[solkhanar-pjo]

Anyone of you seen an Animist in action? Well i did, and it's so awesome. You plant some pets in the water and everyone who will get near them plants will get nuked for loads ( Timer is two minutes!) And they have resistance pets, heal pets, bomb pets. I think, with SI, the new classes are very good. The DD's from a Bonedancer are just too good. Animist the same, but then with his pets. And about the Reaver i couldn't say much. Never seen one yet.

Oh and stealthers.. when you are a One-hit-Running Shade/'Trator/'Blade..please don't run away after BS2/PAing a Bonedancer... bonedancer > everything that runs away, with his healing pets.. tank pets AND that awefull DD of 'em.

Cheers

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Been playing my savage most of the day today, and it's damn fun
Aint got very uber styles at this level, so anytime style hits for ~100-120, with one hand that is, and the chance to tripplehit, and crit on each
But if/when the target starts running, the rear style smacks for a hell of a lot more, and gives a nice little stun.

I can see them being very nice at high level, with much better evade, since the good styles chain from that.

 

[toxx]

i hope to see your savage soon then... i just met a savage in thid and killed it in 2 hits
Hit for 210 + 70 crit then 210 dead savage whereas he did about 60 damage to me in 2 hits


plz tell me hes gimped

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Well... I have close to 700 hp unbuffed, so I dont see that happening And 60 dmg? Thats what you do unstyled.

 

[old.Iunliten]

Sooo your anytime is

Taunting call(+60)
You hit for 120?

And you think that is a bad style?

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Well it could be better!

 

[darbey]

Originally posted by Ardrias_Mid
Well... I have close to 700 hp unbuffed, so I dont see that happening And 60 dmg? Thats what you do unstyled.

Are u a troll savage? Just curious

 

[solkhanar-pjo]

Why do you think he's the one who's creating all the SC templates? He just pumps his alt up, who wouldn't

Whats his name Ardrias?

 

[solkhanar-pjo]

Ardulf 2x Savage

Do'h!

 

[vestax]

My Reaver is only 22 but im enjoying it..

Went to BG and ran around with my PBAE running, 350 radius is nice, I hit a luri NS for 0 damage (lol) and unstealthed him..

He started to run into the water so i insta DoTed and Lifedrained him and then swifly beat him up

The NS was lvl 24 i think (orange con)

 

[toxx]

So far ive not seen an animist, but i did see a valewalker last night:

3 Valewalkers and a bard attacked me and Faart (24 Theurg) last night at mb, first thing i did was smack the bard, who then legged it, so i turned and went for the closest Vale who was heading for the theurg, i dropped him in 2 hits of 200 damage each. While i was doing this the other one was hitting me for 20-30 damage a go (not sure what spd weapon mind). As for my theurg friend, apparently the vale was hitting him for 15 damage, i find that hard to believe because its such a small amount, but maybe

As For BD's.... well they make me sick
his life taps hit for 100 every 5 seconds, his pets heal, his pets attack, and he jsut doesnt die
I ATTEMPTED to take one alone last night, and i went right for the BD (ive thought of other tactics, eg going for the skeleton leader, but that will just end in me trying to take him while the BD backs off and carrys on lifetapping)... anyway, i got in melee range with about 80% hp left, then broke BT with my sword, got out my pole, and hit him 3 times for just over 200 damage before i got killed, while he had around 30% hp left and raising.

Has anyone found a way to beat them 1v1? ive given it plenty of thought, the only way i see it happening, is if you had a class with a 9s stun and aoe mez for the pets :/

 

[swords]

i think the only classes that could do it would be a sorc (aoe mez and then lifedrain etc) Theurgist spamming pets on all 3, or a shit hot infiltrator, (the kind who do multiple backpack attacks with dots on the BD and healer pet)

im not sure about the inf i will have to log Regis on Excalbur and give one a shot.

 

[toxx]

taking into account in thidranki nobody has mastery of concentration, a sorc nor theurg could do it, sure they can mez the pets, and then lifetap the BD, but the BD will simply lifetap back, and interupt the sorcs casts, then u use a QC, one more lifetap, but then u cant do any more than just run or die. Its the fact that the lifetaps are instant which makes them so hard to kill.

Same for the theurg, lifetaps will just interupt the theurg. but say the theurg gets one pet off, and it starts stunning the BD, then great, but the theurg aoe mez is very short, and within a few seconds the pets will be out of mez and back to healing.

First impression is that these guys are probably the single hardest class to kill.

As for an infil, quite possible, one infil said they took a BD down, but i wanna see it for myself before i believe it

 

[Graknak]

Bd's weren't my problem at all, 3 shots with my bow killed ehm, 1 for the self bt and 2 for him, before he even knew i was there his casting was already interrupted resulting in a dead Bd.
The stealth, even the crappiest one, matters alot. and tbh the pets aren't that great and if specced somewhat different i believe a Bd can even have 3 pets at once.

 

[Fagane]

BD can have a lot of pets, I think 4 max. but mostly I see them walking with 2. Infiltrators can not take a BD out. (I tried several times)

The healer pet just heals to fast for the Dot Poison to work, disease poison is not effective enough. And the perforate will not finish a BD off when he wears SCed armor (+hits, +con, +thrust resist). If you try to fight it out the healer pet heals still to much, killing the healer pet also does not work, just get cast again and you get DoT and attacked by hero pet.

BD is just death. Worste thing I saw was a group of 4 BD, and a group of 1 BD and 1 Rogue.

Combo Minstrel+Infiltrator will take out a bone dancer, mezz the healer pet, Minstrel gets DoT prob so Infiltrator can perforate safely.

Fagane

 

[solkhanar-pjo]

They are indeed very hard to kill, but i think they are kill-able..just like any other class. With my SCed gear and procced weapons i tried one and this is what happened.

Because there was a big fight going i had to come from the back and BS2 him, so i did. With the dd and first tick of my dod the BD had ~25% life left. After that i ran, because i did not yet know what they were capable of. Maybe if i shouldn't have ran i could pull off one more garrote ( with 2.8 speed ) and if needed a tick of my dot. But i didn't and got lifetapped to death...

I think i will give it one more go, but make sure he is alone and not 'paying attention'.

Cheers

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by vestax
My Reaver is only 22 but im enjoying it..

Went to BG and ran around with my PBAE running, 350 radius is nice, I hit a luri NS for 0 damage (lol) and unstealthed him..

He started to run into the water so i insta DoTed and Lifedrained him and then swifly beat him up

The NS was lvl 24 i think (orange con)

Saracen with a large shield?
If yes - you conned yellow to me - you got me half down, then I turned and beat you down to a sliver of health (plus 45/tick poison, of course).

It was your last DD that saved you.
Be fair and admit that at leat.

And the 0 damage AOE is just nerf-worthy. One damage to uncover you - fine (the luri-I-got-hurt-squeak so to say) but 0 damage? Bleh...

 

[taobitzz]

My Bonedancer is 22 (Bonebitz) wearing full sc'ed gear. Thier main weakness is thier low hp I am a troll and capped hits/con with +10 con at start and still only have 420 hp (give or take 5 hp). We can only have 2 pets in bg1 and the ones with healer pets are supp spec and have the instant lifetap. Worst class I have found to face alone is scout mainly due to my low hp/1500 range v's 2000 (i think) scout range and the usual insane bow dmg. If scout does not drop us in 3 (1 for bt) arrows they are dead though. Necro looks cool btw

p.s. can the uber infs stab me some more tis fun ^^

 

[decline]

I have a 24 infi on a US server, and the only way I've found to keel them is with a lucky crit so they get one shot.

Oh and if I you don't finish them off, run through them at least so they can't immediately lifetap you and they have to click face first--hopefully enough time for venom to do its work.

 

[vestax]

Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)


Saracen with a large shield?
If yes - you conned yellow to me - you got me half down, then I turned and beat you down to a sliver of health (plus 45/tick poison, of course).

It was your last DD that saved you.
Be fair and admit that at leat.

And the 0 damage AOE is just nerf-worthy. One damage to uncover you - fine (the luri-I-got-hurt-squeak so to say) but 0 damage? Bleh...

ok I admit it