the RR situation

-foadon- · Jul 31, 2003

after confirming the time from alb, i can gather this
alb ppl say you pulled guards between 11:30 and 12CET
i have a pm from someone who was logged in before that time that 65ppl were near fensalir, coming from a scout in the frontier

therefor IF i could have logged in i could have spread the word via PMs/guildchannels/private channels
thats IF i could have logged in..

i know PMs etc are lame but carrying out with a relic raid on tech malfunctioning is too,

albs themselves said they were in mjoll for over 30 mins to get all relics back, i got word at 11:36 that albs were near fens/mjoll, so take a few mins logging in/grouping thats still 15 mins time to go defend those other 2 relics, you wouldnt have had all of them i am sure of

so turn in the relics or GOA can just eat me

oh and btw, be sure to set your cloack all week guarding, cus whole mid is pissed, and very vengful

BimboBane · Jul 31, 2003

This single line says it all..

<Vaire:#daoc.prydwen> about half our relic force couldn't log in either.

No need to comment it even.

-foadon- · Jul 31, 2003

90% of our defense force couldnt either

Cathul · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by -foadon-

so turn in the relics or GOA can just eat me

So if i were you i would hurry up and delete all my chars and account immediately.

/Cathul

old.Morchaoron · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by -foadon-

oh and btw, be sure to set your cloack all week guarding, cus whole mid is pissed, and very vengful

dont worry, our raid was planned even earlier, but we thought 10 am would do, if you take it back we simply go at it at 8 am next time...

dont even bother trying to keep 6 relics, its useless...

Cathul · Jul 31, 2003

Re: Re: the RR situation

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
dont even bother trying to keep 6 relics, its useless...

Right, first time we just kill the named guards and come back when noone expects it.

/Cathul

kr0n · Jul 31, 2003

Kids kids, settle down. As far as I know, the Relic Raid was started before the login problem apperead, and I doubt it was Albs themselves who made it happen.

In my opinion, it was done fair and square.

I know it gets you mad, but doesn't taking relics always get you mad, especially when it's done in a "spur of the moment" aka Blejs tactic of doing night raids

old.Jeriraa · Jul 31, 2003

Re: Re: the RR situation

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
if you take it back we simply go at it at 8 am next time...

dont even bother trying to keep 6 relics, its useless...

Yeah, as useless as trying to keep 3 relics or 2 or even 1.... why not remove them from the game? I mean if I want a relic I set my clock to 6am and go get it. If I want fun I go and _try_ to get it at 8pm. But I guess this game isnt about fun anymore.

Maybe its time to move on.

tildson · Jul 31, 2003

old.Jeriraa · Jul 31, 2003

Re: Re: Re: the RR situation

Originally posted by Cathul
Right, first time we just kill the named guards and come back when noone expects it.

/Cathul

What named guards? Thanks to GOA and the server reset you didnt have to bother with them neither.

Jonaldo · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by kr0n
Kids kids, settle down. As far as I know, the Relic Raid was started before the login problem apperead, and I doubt it was Albs themselves who made it happen.

In my opinion, it was done fair and square.

So you agree Hibs raid on Sunday was fair and we should get the relic that GOA returned?

Or do GOA have double standards? What is ok for one realm isn't ok for another?

I can't understand their logic sometimes and after the amount of times I defended GOA in the past I can think of nothing but insults, especially the way they purposely evade the subject.

Cathul · Jul 31, 2003

Re: Re: Re: Re: the RR situation

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
What named guards? Thanks to GOA and the server reset you didnt have to bother with them neither.

Go and learn to read.

You take them back so you've got 6 relics again. Then we'll come again and kill named guards.

And if you didn't know it by now, they wont respawn them. It doesn't matter if there's a server restart or not. 6 relics no named guards.

/Cathul

Mid_Blejsarus · Jul 31, 2003

This is my version of stuff atm, what i read etc and been told.
Login server crashed AFTER albs move away from apk.
From apk-mjollner it takes probelly u 10-15min without speed or low speed that i think u used. That time middis can logg in even if they got no idea that albs is going for relic... 1 maybe loggs in at amgo.. 1 maybe logg in and gonna run to odins and then spots alb relic force. and then its takes time to get to the third door.. that time when albs is at first door the word is out fast.

And those who got chars logged at mjollner loggs their sm on i am pretty sure.

AND the info will go out on irc, YES its not "legal" but this happends, happends every time someone do a RR.

Happend to us when we took str relics from albs, and u know what also? 4-5fg+ albs was at MMG when the second and third relic was getting moved towards mmg.

I couldnt logg my sm on atleast cause of login crap. and 50-60albs? i think u where would have hard with 5supp sm that defend the sanctum door and the stairs up..

Tbh this is a BIG misstake goa have done..

But 1 other note. I think albs would succeed with take 1 relic not all, cause i know even some ppl gaved up trieng to logg in and when albs had 1 relic ppl like wtf login server fucked up etc.. Server will get roleback.. So ppl ignored this.. But i guess this wont change now tho, but all i can do now is whine and hope goa get some manners and fix it as it should be and give ppl that aint logged on etc a chance to login atleast..

-foadon- · Jul 31, 2003

im saying you wouldnt have had the possibility to take the other 2 relics with you, i am fully aware that we would have lost the alb str relic, but i am alos aware of the fact that when the alb str relic went neutral, those online would have gotten alts and told their friends/guildies/other mid guild, its lame but thats the way you also play.
goa fucked up, and once again, albs take advantage with it

bone_idle · Jul 31, 2003

A simple solution to the incompetent people at GOA.

Hit them in the pocket.

Money talks and if enough people stop playing then GOA might get their heads out of their arses and wake up.

Its obvious now that Mythic/GOA have a liking for albion. Delete all your chars and move to Alb for happier times.

tris- · Jul 31, 2003

Re: Re: Re: the RR situation

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Yeah, as useless as trying to keep 3 relics or 2 or even 1.... why not remove them from the game? I mean if I want a relic I set my clock to 6am and go get it. If I want fun I go and _try_ to get it at 8pm. But I guess this game isnt about fun anymore.

Maybe its time to move on.

succi · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by -foadon-
cus whole mid is pissed, and very vengful

/em hides behind sofa

Kahland · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by Omniscieous
So you agree Hibs raid on Sunday was fair and we should get the relic that GOA returned?

Or do GOA have double standards? What is ok for one realm isn't ok for another?

I can't understand their logic sometimes and after the amount of times I defended GOA in the past I can think of nothing but insults, especially the way they purposely evade the subject.

That situation was not the same, Zones crashed there and ppl got kicked from the server.

-foadon- · Jul 31, 2003

milithiel : shut the fuck up with the spam, ofc alb player ....

Blood · Jul 31, 2003

It would have been nice if there was a honorable ingame spirit, and the albs would have said to them selves "lets not take advantage of the login servers being down", and had waited untill they came up again.

But with 3am 5am 6am raids being used by all realm, tons of buffbots, people exploiting game mecanics as long as they dont think they will get banned (necros?), and everyone bitching at eachother for whatever reason...

hopeing for an honorable ingame spirit is very far fetched...

(it would probably be up to the guild masters, and perhaps goa)

old.Atrox · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by -foadon-
goa fucked up, and once again, albs take advantage with it

So if the mids were to relic raid, planned everything organized with ram groups ralic groups etc.
All the ppl that bortherd to wake up/stay up to help out, and you move out and then the login server "crashes", then you would turn back ? or maybe wait awhile and risk the whole RR cuz of guard patrols ( like the albs did ).

think not.

Mid_Blejsarus · Jul 31, 2003

i am 100% sure i would want the raid to continue.
BUT i would understand if relics would get back to their former owner even tho i would hate that the planning and alarm clock.. that i did put into it.. but i would atleast think it would be fair.

eynar · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by kr0n
Kids kids, settle down. As far as I know, the Relic Raid was started before the login problem apperead, and I doubt it was Albs themselves who made it happen.

In my opinion, it was done fair and square.

I know it gets you mad, but doesn't taking relics always get you mad, especially when it's done in a "spur of the moment" aka Blejs tactic of doing night raids

I wouldn't call it fair at all tbh...think about this: there isn't any RvR going on at that hour on a weekday, so the majority of the few Mids who were online were likely leveling some alts. Once they got word of the RR, they quickly logged out their alts and attempted to log in their main characters (or those logged in relic keeps). But since login server was down, they were stuck in the character selection screen, and unable to login again with any character...:doh:

old.Atrox · Jul 31, 2003

I thought it was the patcher that were down ?
so you should be able to change char.
I never tried it thou so i cant know.

Melachi- · Jul 31, 2003

Tbh i dont mind that albs got the relics, but something else bothers me.

Midgard for the past while has been at Albs for the relics, weve tried and failed a huge ammount of raids in the past 2 months.

I know albs have tried about 2 or 3 raids on Mids Pow relics, and hibs tried maybe 1 or 2. But i get this feeling that albs are gotta sit tight now with your STR relics and not try for anything else, it seems ( im not sure ) but you just wanna hoard em for your infiltrators and el33t tank groups in emain. Dont let this turn into another 6 month stalemate where all you (albs) do is log your Excal defense cabalist alts in everytime Mid hit it. Put the effort in cause Mids will, having all the relics has made for the best past week imo, countless times the RR alarm has gone up and we scrambled all over the place trying to find and kill the alb zerg.

And hibs, i know you tried last sunday, i know you have population problems, but try show yourselves at Grallar or Excal a bit more :x

promise · Jul 31, 2003

Originally posted by Melachi[Mid]

And hibs, i know you tried last sunday, i know you have population problems, but try show yourselves at Grallar or Excal a bit more :x

prefferbly at excal

yeah i agree, it has been fun in the frontier, wish it was more like it tbh, nice to zerg odins for a change, emain sux

Xeanor · Jul 31, 2003

This has to be the longest whine ever T_T.

cougar- · Aug 1, 2003

Originally posted by -foadon-

oh and btw, be sure to set your cloack

*sets the cloak*

mid_Efour · Aug 2, 2003

set my cloak also

khadar · Aug 2, 2003

Why?!

<< And hibs, i know you tried last sunday, i know you have population problems, but try show yourselves at Grallar or Excal a bit more :x >>

Why bother?!?! We dont get any relic anyhow, becouse there gona roll them back.

Thats life we have to have in Hib

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