the reason i retire my 50 rm - mid/prywden rvr groups suck so much

[medikto]

A runie is heavenly dependant on his group,can be fun if the group works well,but i have yet to see a good group work here. The best mid/prywden group is about as good as the lesser hib/excal groups i play my 50 druid with.Only going to thouch the simple basics here for good rvr play for comparision : i know hibs have a bit of an edge class/ra wise atm,but skill/tactics means alot.It starts with group composition,mids seem to be in a rush to go out of the protal keep;hardly taking time to look for ppl,not even filling groups;hibs will wait a long long time just to get the several components in a group,then only move out.second:there is almost no communication at all,it all stops there ..no leader..no coordination;if u ask something in groupchat u get a reply 10 mins l8r,i know hibgrps where the leader says sprint all react in less then a second always,even in battle.Not going to take this too far but 1 last point :sticking together : a midgrp seems to split up all over emain,and ofc leading to some beeing on the pad in svasud.stealhters seems to stay at spots,skalds suddenly go there own way etc.. .Do ppl realise that if some1 solo a enemie he will get 1/4 of the rps then if he would have soloed him (+8*12.5% bonus ,but /8) in case of a fg ,& others will get nothing ?
if each would have soloed 1 apart of another ,or they would kill a fg with them beeing a REAL fg too(beeing together) they get 8 times the rps?
dont want to this to be flame but something to make ppl see some difference here ,its so obvious if u rvr with a lvl50 each in a realm/server..
go ahead say i'm wrong,i hope so ..

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Only one way to avoid this...

Dont port to Emain. Emain is the playground of soloing stealthers, RP fanatics and powerleveled newbies.

 

[Azal]

Find better groups for rvring with instead of the general emain zerg mate. Plenty good guild orientated grps out there that actually play as grps not as individuals or part of the big zerg if you take the time to find them.

Edit: I borrowed a friends char on hib excal and I didn't notice anything particularly great about the rvr groups there, the grps I go rvr with on pryd hands down beat anything I saw on excal.

 

[Taggart]

I have to agree with azal here, i spent plenty of time rvring in hib excal and even though i get pissed off in mid pryd at times hehe its still better than hib excal. Only thing better about hib excal is there are shitloads of healing classes about lfg, something u dont see too much in mid...I was in a grp not long ago which was me(chanter) a hero, bard, 2 wardens and 3 druids ....now thats what i call buff and heals hehe.

 

[hrodelbert]

Yes and getting to play with me in emain is a reason to stay by itself surely?

 

[stu]

Originally posted by medikto
The best mid/prywden group is about as good as the lesser hib/excal groups i play my 50 druid with.

What you mean is, the best mid/pryd group *you've been with* is about as good as the lesser hib/exc groups.

Personally I spend 95% of my time in a small group with the same people. Group with the same people regularly and you soon become considerably more efficient.

 

[klavrynd]

enkigroup > all

 

[~Mobius~]

It depends if you have a guild that pays attention to you though ......
Always see the Warder groups together and looks cool but most people must just yell "lfg" and hope for an invite at Mpk...

 

[- Pathfinder -]

TBH the typical Mid grp doesn't seem able to accomplish anything in RvR The same is probably true for Albiona s well, though I'm not in a position to comment on that

 

[Jonaldo]

Emain isn't rvr, it's where you do the second stage of xping to get enough rp's so you can get nice realm abilities to go rvr elsewhere (taking keeps/relics etc.)

Running from mg to mg in emain is more boring that being in fin groups in my opinion, pisses me off when people call it rvr.

 

[klavrynd]

TBH the typical Mid grp doesn't seem able to accomplish anything in RvR The same is probably true for Albiona s well, though I'm not in a position to comment on that

as if albs are worth anything when walker's not about.

no walker = dead albs

 

[SilverHood]

unless they have a huuuuuuuge zerg

like just now (half past 12AM GMT)

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Cornell
Emain isn't rvr, it's where you do the second stage of xping to get enough rp's so you can get nice realm abilities to go rvr elsewhere (taking keeps/relics etc.)

Running from mg to mg in emain is more boring that being in fin groups in my opinion, pisses me off when people call it rvr.

try to run with less then 3fg's then ? and dont camp mg's
then you might find Emain quite funny..
and Emain warfare are more RvR then NPCraids
I dont expect you to understand that, you are after all a pryd\hib, and most of you do nothing else but NPC(mob)raids

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Originally posted by old.Atrox


try to run with less then 3fg's then ? and dont camp mg's
then you might find Emain quite funny..
and Emain warfare are more RvR then NPCraids
I dont expect you to understand that, you are after all a pryd\hib, and most of you do nothing else but NPC(mob)raids

Well, there's a backside to this as well...people might get a bit disencouraged when they try to run around in smaller groups, but get zerged in no time. And Emain warfare? What's that? The most strategic moves made there is when people decide to wait for another port in order to zerg efficiently.

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

The reason Hib groups are more balanced is because their classes can take on different roles, whereas the other realms, especially Alb, have classes that can only able to do a specific job. This can't be more evident with our CC... we have a cloth caster that can cc, and maybe nuke a bit but at the expense of mezzes. Hib have bards to cc that can also heal, buff, speed etc, so to get a abalanced group they could, in reality do it with only a few different classes. I think Midgard is in the middle of the versatility spectrum, their classes are a bit more specific than Hib but can all take on more roles than Albs.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.Eynar_Vega


Well, there's a backside to this as well...people might get a bit disencouraged when they try to run around in smaller groups, but get zerged in no time. And Emain warfare? What's that? The most strategic moves made there is when people decide to wait for another port in order to zerg efficiently.

When I've been in good 1fg team the zergs has not been that much of a problem, coop with another good fg and kill the zerg, only time I zerg is when I dont have a group or that the group Im in dont have the needed key classes...

 

[Riddler]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
TBH the typical Mid grp doesn't seem able to accomplish anything in RvR The same is probably true for Albiona s well, though I'm not in a position to comment on that

ya, no doubt its hard to fight sotl grps, but please no need to start making posts like nolby

remember, our group(s) _have_ won vs sotl, but hasnt happened alot last 2-3 days im afraid

you are indeed _very_ uberbuffed ( nerf (-23897234) dmg on every nuke on every sotl in emain), and mostly u seem to be 2-2,5fg while we're normally 1-1,5fg and very often half grp is 50% of silly sb alts

 

[SilverHood]

group with Eynar and every group is a good one

last night renewed my faith in midgard

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by old.Eynar_Vega
And Emain warfare? What's that? The most strategic moves made there is when people decide to wait for another port in order to zerg efficiently.

Thats priceless m8, so true, going in my sig

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by old.Atrox


try to run with less then 3fg's then ? and dont camp mg's
then you might find Emain quite funny..
and Emain warfare are more RvR then NPCraids
I dont expect you to understand that, you are after all a pryd\hib, and most of you do nothing else but NPC(mob)raids

We do lots of rvr, but what I'm saying is just running around in emain ultimately achieves nothing, just some more realm points for the players. Keep taking should have much more rewards and play a more prominent role in realm Vs realm combat.

I've seen lots of people run right past Dun Bolg and Crimthain straight into emain when those keeps have been owned by mids/albs just because 'you don't get rps taking keeps and its boring' so instead they just go rp whore in emain like the rest of em.

 

[old.Atrox]

I find keep raiding extremly boring and emain RvR extremly fun ( sometimes )
If I go out to have fun what should I choose to do ?

I go to emain to have fun, so Im a rpwhore.
you go and keepraid and PvE to have fun, what kind of whore are you ?

thou I agree with you, keep raiding should be more rewarding.

 

[Blue Ix]

/cry ~~

 

[dippy]

Originally posted by medikto
It starts with group composition,mids seem to be in a rush to go out of the protal keep;hardly taking time to look for ppl,not even filling groups;hibs will wait a long long time just to get the several components in a group,then only move out.second

Hibs have to grab a bard/warden/enchanter or it takes them an age to get to emain, albs/mids just run to milegates with zerg and can find action without needing a group at all

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
I go to emain to have fun, so Im a rpwhore.
you go and keepraid and PvE to have fun, what kind of whore are you ?

Since when do I go to keepraids and pve to have fun? did I ever say this?

Keepraids and xping is boring as hell, but zerging from mg to mg in emain is equally as boring to me as either of those.

I simply play a LOT less than I used to do these days is all.

 

[Sarnat]

So you're rolling a YASBA to fix this and make it even worse for those who don't like SBs? ;D

YASBA = Yet Another SB Alt