The perfect group

[Arakiel]

hello all a new point to bring to light.......

a mate on my guild the other night wanted to delete his voidritch because he didnt want to solo to 50 , we convinced him not to but he has a valid point, if ur not part of " the perfect group " line up ppl just dont group with you............

well its a sad fact and if everyone goes by it were gonna have an emain full of pbaoe spearo warden etc not much diversity you see, mostpeople have said , oh well thats the way that it is just accept it. personally i liked it b4 with all different ppl take for instance the guild > silent death > i thought it is a cool aspect of our realm that we have a guild full of stealthers, nice one .

im here to have a laugh , hunt , gain a bit of xp and tell some beggars to get a job , anyone is free to group wih me and ill be loyal to you just dont steal me cloak


ps' i know voids can do as good as pbaoe but i hope you see my overall point

 

[Whandall]

Hehe the perfect group is 2 nightshades 3 rangers and 3 void elds

msg me when im on and we could get a group together. We already did blackwraiths in a group of 3 rangers 1 shade 1 bard 1 druid 1 hero 1 champ so i know that groups that are not "perfect" can work very well - ohh and its much more fun btw

 

[Tank Init]

there is no such thing as a pefect group, if you get 8 ppl who know how to play their chars then they will do just as good as the cookie cutter group

on

 

[Arakiel]

hehe i agree with you guys > thats why i made this thread to stick up for you guys

 

[Arakiel]

hehe just an idea i seen used in everqust
if ya have a group thats all tanks > i seen them alternate pullers and use taunt only when to switch between other people > furthers the point made that it takes good players not good classes i been in plenty of so called perfect groups that hae gone bad > and the other day i took 3 voids 3 tanks and a bard and a ranger to azures > we were all 41 and were doing the thror

 

[Whandall]

Yay Tankeeee youre right but....

I have often seen ppl who refused to join such a group saying "What?? 2 stalkers in a group? That cannot work...bye"

"Youre crazy thats suicide!! You all gonna die!!"

"LOL i wont join such a gimped group. exp will be far too low...."

etc.

So its not easy to get enough groupmembers.....

But if we come back to innis after 2 hours of exping those ppl are still sitting there waiting.....

 

[old.Takahome]

But a grp of 8 bards won´t work but to mez albs

 

[Tank Init]

shows what u know about bards then dont it

 

[Kobold]

Bards can spec weapon

 

[Arakiel]

hehe i think a group of stealthers would be cool the pull would drain half a mob.s lie anyways and a load of NS using backstab would own the place >> the best would be a full group of rangers >>>> archer group ready aim gank

 

[Spudgie]

If you and your groupmates have the skill and the knowledge you can make any group work.

Try Void eldritch and a Nightshade for example, I have and it works well, you've just got to have the brains to pick the right mobs and use your abilities to their fullest

 

[Aeiedil]

some ubergroups

4-man group
2x warden, 1x champion, 1x nightshade

it can probably work with the champ changed for a hero, and shade changed with a bm, or maybe just 2 bm's, or bm/nightshade or whatever.

the wardens sync bubbles, or if needed against slow-hitting mobs one bubbles and one damage adds. the damage-dealers taunt and then tank a pair of purple cons (or if single-pulls let the stronger tank, ie hero\champ\bm>nightshade). the wardens can join in the hitting but heal when needed. this group can take 2 purples (tried and tested with 4x l50's against an accidentally pulled pair of grand pookas)

8-man group
3x nightshade, 1x aoe mage, 2x warden, 1x druid, 1x bard

nightshade can be subsituted for blademaster, if aiming for singles then 1x shield hero might be preferable as main tank, but must have 2 damage-dealers (ie shades\bm's)

bard sings his end, mana during breaks. wardens both bubble, all naturalists heal, wardens tank when cant heal, nightshades taunt and use evade chains when possible to keep the defence bonus in control, good against singles, should be able to take groups of red mobs


I hope this is of use to some people these are the 2 biggest surprises i had when xping. these groups are not as effective as the ubergroup template but are effective nonetheless, and make accomodate shades and bm's, the 8-man can accomodate a void/mana eld, light/mana ment, mana chanter. if possible a mana ment using dot is probably best because he comes with a MR free, and can double up as backup healer\cc

 

[gronk]

hmm ur groups can't work aeiedil...how do u wanna do all that without a ranger???

if i were any of those classes that u mentioned then i would propably fully agree with u

 

[Aeiedil]

in the 8-man i guess you can change 1 shade for ranger, but shades are better tanks than rangers and do more melee damage, so only worth doing if the ranger dosent have to taunt

 

[Noche]

Shade powah

 

[old.Leel]

Depends how the ranger is speced. Ranger has better armour, but worse evade though.

B.t.w. ROFL at those people still waiting for group for two hours and getting NO exp.

 

[Arakiel]

my good xp

hey guys Great night tonight...


i went to innis and tried for a group . ithere were loads of ppl lfg there but the main grps wrent inviting so i thoughtoh well and made a yell to form a group on me , the basis was i was gonna invite the first 7 to ask me , didnt matter what class they were > well we got a really good group and had a laugh. hehe we had a ranger as main tank and a ns and me > that furthers my attitude on the subject > anyone can group with me im here to have fun cya round guys

 

[old.Xanthian]

1 Void Eld + 1 Mana Eld is bloody good..
Void does energy debuffs on the mobs and the Mana Eld pbaoe's and at lvl 48 i get 1000(+200) at least and doing that much dmg to a mob is FAST exp.. especially when theres 3+

 

[Whandall]

Another group template:
3 Shades(lvl 40, 41, 42) doing wees and silver maddened wolfes down in cm pit. A bit tricky sometimes but if you control agro it works. ! Shade pulls the others pa/cd

For Palan:
2 Shades +1 Ranger would be even better cause ranger crits and both shades pa/cd

Was funny when we tried that cause ppl startet spamming for a invite

 

[masentaja]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
1 Void Eld + 1 Mana Eld is bloody good..
Void does energy debuffs on the mobs and the Mana Eld pbaoe's and at lvl 48 i get 1000(+200) at least and doing that much dmg to a mob is FAST exp.. especially when theres 3+

Yep, thats extremely powerful, Voider debuffs, pbaoer kills
And of course, voider can assist with nukes too. If i debuff player in combat, and pbaoer casts pbaoe... its nearly insta death ;P
Wish the debuff would be aoe

 

[Alkoran]

Robe Rage!!!

Reminds me of a great group at the good ole PF once, 6 casters, 1 ment, 3 eld, 2 ench varrying spec.s was great fun Esspecially staff tanking the adds
Only one death as I remember, which was me, when I PBed 3 parths and we all lagged. "Mikhal presses "4".........2 red squares?........damn.........................Boom!!! huge loada fireworks, Mikhal falls down.......oopsie"

Perfect group? Where's the challenge, the adventure...after 4 hours of farming you gotta big pile of exp...what's the point of getting the lvl anyway if you can't have fun...eh?

**Shades rule..damn the haste cap!!!**

 

[Jozen]

u suck aeie i would never grp sooki nightshades like u and noche !! :>>>>>

 

[Alrindel]

Originally posted by Aeiedil
shades are better tanks than rangers and do more melee damage

Shades are better tanks in AOE groups than rangers because they evade a lot more, but they don't do more melee damage, especially with the ranger's damage add buff. Not that it matters, because in AOE groups, melee damage output is utterly and completely irrelevant.

 

[Danya]

Sigh, does this mean my Eldritch is going to have to solo a lot because I can't AE? How dull, I either have to have a class that can't get group, or follow the cooker cutter template and be a manabomb caster. Yay!

 

[healer_mcheal]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
1 Void Eld + 1 Mana Eld is bloody good..
Void does energy debuffs on the mobs and the Mana Eld pbaoe's and at lvl 48 i get 1000(+200) at least and doing that much dmg to a mob is FAST exp.. especially when theres 3+

Eldritch PBAoE last time i checked was Cold damage,, Enchanter is Energy

 

[anno_dk]

hmmm but name one void eld that will debuff every mob for example in fins grps, remember that debuff is single target, and void takes more aggro than pbaoe

 

[old.Zarko]

All groups can do well, and get decent xp...

Nevertheless some groups has a bigger chance of success, and can even have one or two total bad players and work..

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.Healer_Mcheal


Eldritch PBAoE last time i checked was Cold damage,, Enchanter is Energy

Nope, both are energy. Got changed in some patch along the lines.

Originally posted by anno_dk
hmmm but name one void eld that will debuff every mob for example in fins grps, remember that debuff is single target, and void takes more aggro than pbaoe

Me.

 

[Danya]

Debuffs don't take any aggro really, so a void eldritch can sit there and spam a mob with it without taking aggro off the tanks.

 

[leap]

Leap (35 warden) have from lvl 30 -> 35 been in cm, VERY varying groups, but great fun, we even had a grp with 1 caster and 7 tanks although llixereu was main tank

well anyway, send me pm in game if i have a grp with space ilet u in, no matter if ur void, or ranger, or ns