The African drought.

[Uncle Sick]

It's dry there. Really dry.

 

[CorNokZ]

Already donated about £10. I suggest everyone does the same. It is amazing how much, a little can do

 

[Corran]

Already donated about £10. I suggest everyone does the same. It is amazing how much, how little can do

it is also amazing how much the heads of charities get paid, and how much of donations go into "administration costs". It why i only give now and again, and would rather give money directly to the affected people

 

[Uncle Sick]

Humanitarian Aid charities have been drilling wells financed through donations in Africa for how long?

 

[CorNokZ]

Had a long speech prepared for that, but really cba with it. My past 48 hours have been absolute dog shit so I guess you're right Corran. My £10 goes to administration and I feel better about myself. Win/win situation except for those in Africa

Have fun on your next trip there donating "directly" to the affected people

 

[Moriath]

It's all about the somalians and the ppl in charge there not allowing aid and the agencies in. Better to promote the change or instatement of some kind of government. Turn off the tap we can only mop the floor for so long.

 

[CorNokZ]

Yeah, the drought is only in Somalia, not the entire east Africa

 

[ilaya]

maybes if they stopped having 10 kids per family they'd have enough food to live on.

STOP FUCKING

 

[Uncle Sick]

maybes if they stopped having 10 kids per family they'd have enough food to live on.

STOP FUCKING

+ rep lol

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm tempted to say that the area, after all the years of aid needs, problems etc, that it's pretty much clear that it's uninhabitable as is.

Might sound cold, but maybe we should leave them to their own to either thrive or die? I've always said that humanity probably will fail due to trying to save everyone.

Dunno really, idea of helping is noble,but at the same time...

 

[Ormorof]

its not that they cant feed themselves its that the insane wars and warlords in the region have basically stopped food production, add a major drought to this and the little food that was produced is now fucked

 

[Raven]

The richest continent in the world when it comes to natural resources, metals and gems, they would rather shoot each and sit around waiting for the world to feed them than do anything about it.

The UK has next to fuck all in resources yet we have done ok!

Yes, yes I am sure some people will cry about them being oppressed etc etc. EMPIRE11!! /yawn. but that's a poor excuse really.

Not interested.

Besides, too much of the money donated goes to admin and warlords. The amount of charity money poured into Africa over the years is phenomenal, the fact that it hasn't changed anything at all shows that it is pointless.

 

[old.Tohtori]

its not that they cant feed themselves its that the insane wars and warlords in the region have basically stopped food production, add a major drought to this and the little food that was produced is now fucked

Maybe that's the solution, let them fight it out.

Without one single rule, be it how coveted and fought over, is still needed. Even if it would be a dictatorial asshole rule, STILL it's better then what is going on now.

Africa has never been allowed to become a country, couple of wells here and there wont fix the nation.

 

[Everz]

Africa is a lost cause, sorry for the people who have to suffer because of it but it's best off leaving it to rot.

And Lols but the truth to ilaya.

 

[Raven]

Also I would like to add (and related to Illaya's post!) as in any population of any species, if the environment can't support the population then the population decreases to suit. Famine and decease are natures way of forcing the population to decrease to suit the environment. Hand outs will not solve the problem, they are just a bandaid (huh-huh) The problem of the population being too big for the environment to sustain can only be solved by having a smaller population.

 

[Zenith]

maybes if they stopped having 10 kids per family they'd have enough food to live on.

STOP FUCKING

The only direct way to solve this problem is by trying to get all the developing countries up to the western "standard" wealth and welfare. Higher living standards = less kids. Less fucking? Dunno.

 

[Zenith]

The richest continent in the world when it comes to natural resources, metals and gems, they would rather shoot each and sit around waiting for the world to feed them than do anything about it.

The UK has next to fuck all in resources yet we have done ok!

Yes, yes I am sure some people will cry about them being oppressed etc etc. EMPIRE11!! /yawn. but that's a poor excuse really.

Not interested.

Besides, too much of the money donated goes to admin and warlords. The amount of charity money poured into Africa over the years is phenomenal, the fact that it hasn't changed anything at all shows that it is pointless.

Getting a bit scared on the amount of sheer ignorance shown here, if you're not just trolling..

 

[eksdee]

Pretty much standard for this forum recently.

 

[CorNokZ]

So basically what you are saying Raven is that if a country can only provide food for 5% of its population the remaining 95% should just die because that is nature's way?

 

[Chilly]

So basically what you are saying Raven is that if a country can only provide food for 5% of its population the remaining 95% should just die because that is nature's way?

They are free to import the rest.

 

[Chilly]

They are free to import the rest.

Bollocks to it, though. I've been indoctrinated since I was born to think that capitalism=win. If you cant grow or buy or dig up or somehow obtain what you need, then you're fucked.

 

[Tuthmes]

Bollocks to it, though. I've been indoctrinated since I was born to think that capitalism=win. If you cant grow or buy or dig up or somehow obtain what you need, then you're fucked.

The problem over there is beeing caused by capitalism.

 

[Mabs]

The problem over there is beeing caused by Nestle.

fixed that for you

 

[Raven]

So basically what you are saying Raven is that if a country can only provide food for 5% of its population the remaining 95% should just die because that is nature's way?

Pretty much yes. If they cba to use what they do have (huge resources of metals etc) to trade for the food then why not?

If you run out of food in the cupboard at home, you don't just go next door and start eating their food do you? You go to the shop and use the resources you have to trade for more food.

 

[Tuthmes]

Pretty much yes. If the cba to use what they do have (huge resources of metals etc) to trade for the food then why not?

But what if those resources are in the capable hands of cooperations you don't have any say over?

 

[Marc]

it is also amazing how much the heads of charities get paid, and how much of donations go into "administration costs". It why i only give now and again, and would rather give money directly to the affected people

What is some african kid, in the middle of nowhere gonna do with a ten pound note? Go to McDonalds?

 

[Huntingtons]

The richest continent in the world when it comes to natural resources, metals and gems, they would rather shoot each and sit around waiting for the world to feed them than do anything about it.

The UK has next to fuck all in resources yet we have done ok!

Yes, yes I am sure some people will cry about them being oppressed etc etc. EMPIRE11!! /yawn. but that's a poor excuse really.

Not interested.

Besides, too much of the money donated goes to admin and warlords. The amount of charity money poured into Africa over the years is phenomenal, the fact that it hasn't changed anything at all shows that it is pointless.

you know how UK got to where it is today? on the backs of countries that it colonized.

The more i think of it the less i wanna argue your points, i think dementia has finally struck your old age

 

[throdgrain]

I'm shocked by the amount of common sense in this thread.

 

[Zenith]

Pretty much yes. If they cba to use what they do have (huge resources of metals etc) to trade for the food then why not?

If you run out of food in the cupboard at home, you don't just go next door and start eating their food do you? You go to the shop and use the resources you have to trade for more food.

How do you trade your resources when it, for some reason or another, is not owned by you?

The problem, though, is not the LACK of food. Africa have been considered the grainhouse of the world for a reason. Even now, according to experts, we have enough food. No problem, EVERY human being could get the 3000 something calories we deem healthy. In a sustainable way, even considering population growth.

The problem is food distribution. The range and quantity of produce that is actually leaving the whole of Africa, including the easternmost countries, is staggering. And I'm not even talking about the historical rape of this continent (EMPIRE!!!111 etc....), this is recent, and still ongoing. Another problem is that they, in an attempt to trade for money and food, and big companies, is cutting what greenery and trees they have, which = more desserts.

According to the UN, most of the starving population is actually farmers whom, if anyone could actually buy their produce, would grow WAY more. The lack of any capital at all stops this though.

You think the African continent is somehow isolated from the rest of the world, to govern themselves? Welcome to the market system and capitalistic world...

This link is quite good, and more "entertaining" than reading some statistical chart... Josette Sheeran: Ending hunger now | Video on TED.com