Thane template need u r thought's

[ogmonda]

like title say's i've been trying to make a thane template and now i need u opinion's about it.
LOKI Build Report
Class: Thane
Level: 50

Dual Wield
Item Utility: 735.3
Build Utility: 735.3
Useable Utility: 724.3
TOA Utility: 356.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 108/99
Constitution: 94/99
Dexterity: 90/95
Quickness: 15/82
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 46/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 376/356
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 22/26
Cold: 21/26
Heat: 20/26
Energy: 20/26
Matter: 11/26+5
Spirit: 17/26
Crush: 21/26
Thrust: 20/26+2
Slash: 21/26+3

Skill
Hammer: 2/11
Parry: 7/11
Shield: 3/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 24/26
Constitution: 24/26
Dexterity: 20/26
Quickness: 7/26
Hits: 156/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 24/50
Casting Speed: 4/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 7/10
Fatigue: 4/25

Chest (gov):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Dexterity: 25
Constitution: 25
Body: 7%
Cold: 7%
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Dexterity: 25
Body: 11%
Matter: 7%
Hammer: 2
Utility: 62.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (lightning etched mail sleeves (thane epic)):
Imbue: 15.0
Hits (Cap Increase): 36
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 8
Constitution (Cap Increase): 8
Parry: 4
Utility: 20.0
TOA Utility: 51.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Dexterity: 25
Piety: 25
Slash: 7%
Spirit: 7%
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Soot smudged boot's):
Imbue: 26.0
Strength: 21
Constitution: 21
Hits: 40
Casting Speed: 2
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Constitution (Cap Increase): 6
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 34.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (bruiser 1 handed):
Imbue: 30.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 15
Constitution: 15
Spirit: 6%
Energy: 6%
Armour Factor: 8
Fatigue: 4
Utility: 54.0
TOA Utility: 16.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Aza'r shield):
Imbue: 31.0
Piety: 21
Strength: 21
Shield: 3
Hits: 40
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Utility: 53.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Choker of Thunder ):
Imbue: 17.0
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Constitution: 15
Hits: 48
Utility: 22.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (shades of mist):
Imbue: 20.0
Parry: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (eerie darkness stone):
Imbue: 34.0
Slash: 4%
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Heat: 5%
Cold: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
Spirit: 4%
Utility: 78.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (hord blood stained belt):
Imbue: 40.0
Hits: 64
Cold: 9%
Heat: 9%
Energy: 9%
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Villianous Darkspire Mighty Ring ):
Imbue: 27.5
Armour Factor: 6
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits: 44
Crush: 6%
Heat: 6%
Strength: 18
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 18.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (ring of torrent):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Slash: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (ceremonial bracer con):
Imbue: 22.0
Constitution: 18
Hits: 40
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Thrust: 6%
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (animal bone bracelet):
Imbue: 5.0
Hits: 20
Strength (Cap Increase): 7
Quickness (Cap Increase): 7
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 7
Utility: 5.0
TOA Utility: 42.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Nuxtobatns]

It depends on how u wanna play ... more melee, more caster ... or a balanced hybrid.
But imo....
-U dont need that much energy
-U need 200 piety in total (see how much u need in template to reach it)
-More parry/shield .. they add up v well for the best defence possible (since most specs dont provide decent defence)
-Dont try to over cap your Con that much... the hp/con point aint that gr8
-U could really use Winged Helm as a thane imo
-Even more slash and if poss more crush
-Bruiser as main 1h weap is a no no...if u want hammer its plain and simple ... malice or Champion Weap
-Animal Bone bracer ?? i mean... omg

 

[Illtar]

cap quickness :X

 

[BloodOmen]

and piety From experience i can clearly tell you.. its impossible to make a thane template with 101 str high con/dex/qui/pie/hits +11shield/parry and hammer... best thing you can do is take other thanes advice... you wanna cap str or get it as close to cap as possible.. keep dex high/piety 75 minimum/quickness high as possible good resists +11 hammer ignore shield and parry completely 42 shield is fine for slamming nothing else u need it for... you'll find alot of thanes only have +11 weapon

 

[BloodOmen]

I advise the following artis as a minimum on more of a melee thane - Winged helm, Scalars, Malice mainhand (screw champ wep its shit), GoV OR if you can get the dex cap/dex back some how use eirenes...



Caster thane - Crown of Zahur (thanes get caster version they can potentially get 10% resist pierce paired with Atlantis tablet) get a 1handed hammer or something with con/hits and cast speed on... swap between that and malice when you want to cast with the con/hits you will not lose hits etc while swapping or over cap hits by like 40 or so.. bracer of heavenly bodies is also nice for caster thane due to cast speed/thrust/hits etc... you get the idea tho

 

[Nuxtobatns]

I wouldnt go for +11hammer if u go 50weap imo
+parry and +shield r way more important than hammer...imo

 

[BloodOmen]

I wouldnt go for +11hammer if u go 50weap imo
+parry and +shield r way more important than hammer...imo

mmm... you do realise nuxto.. that thanes that go 50 weapon only get like 28 parry so whats the point in the shield?????? 6+11 shield :x? thanes are not champs.. they simply cannot drop stormcalling to put up shield and such... theres no point in going 50 weapon on a thane unless - A. your in a guild group and want 50 weapon for when sword/axe love patches hit or B. your duoing with a mate... 50 sc = doomhammer 50 weapon = pointless unless you like getting frustrated when people evade/block or parry your parry chain with uber dd then proceed to rip you apart for having no defence at all.. talk to Eithor or Trollum if you want thane advice Ogmonda they've probably tried every single spec under the sun and they're both specced 39 weap/42 shield 50 sc i believe.. out of personal experience i'd never drop shield on a thane.. you simply cannot afford to lose the defence due to shit hp table

 

[Illtar]

I wouldnt go for +11hammer if u go 50weap imo
+parry and +shield r way more important than hammer...imo

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depends

 

[atos]

+wep above 50 only increased styledamage from what I heard. I could spec 34sword and still have a composite spec that would be equal to 50 hammer. Pointless to sc stormcalling.

Pointless to SC energy.

You have to make a choise. Do you want slam and doom hammer or 50wep? You can choise two of them. Personally I'm goign 50sword 50SC next patch.


With the defence on a thane I say if you spec for shield spec for slam, not defence.

 

[atos]

Also, before someone gets any stupid ideas about speccing Axe. The frontal chain is rly hard to pull off. And sword has a 75pt dd anytimer.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

mmm... you do realise nuxto.. that thanes that go 50 weapon only get like 28 parry so whats the point in the shield?????? 6+11 shield :x? thanes are not champs.. they simply cannot drop stormcalling to put up shield and such... theres no point in going 50 weapon on a thane unless - A. your in a guild group and want 50 weapon for when sword/axe love patches hit or B. your duoing with a mate... 50 sc = doomhammer 50 weapon = pointless unless you like getting frustrated when people evade/block or parry your parry chain with uber dd then proceed to rip you apart for having no defence at all.. talk to Eithor or Trollum if you want thane advice Ogmonda they've probably tried every single spec under the sun and they're both specced 39 weap/42 shield 50 sc i believe.. out of personal experience i'd never drop shield on a thane.. you simply cannot afford to lose the defence due to shit hp table

Also ... i have tried 4 different specs till now

1: 50sc/50hammer/17parry/23shield
2: 50sc/44hammer/30parry/22shield
3: 50sc/39hammer/6parry/42shield
4: 38sc/50axe/29parry/32shield (didnt have THAT much of a hard time making the chain tbh)
5: and now i am back to the first one again; tho 3rr higher

Keep in mind that i use that spec for soloing and small grps and works like a peach
I also liked the 3rd one , BUT ... i had more anxious wins ... and when i had the target slammed...i didnt believe i could take him down that easily with my hammer as i would with my spells ( and against high defences/evade while slamming from in front wasnt that gr8 always)
Also as a side note... having tried composite spec 45+mastery3 on shield and parry at the same time..i was still not satisfied with defence (could be cause of the med shield and the low hp tho)
Lastly ... i think sword will be good .. BUT u need end regen and MoF 3...

 

[ogmonda]

ye forgot to say i wanna go 50 sc, 42 shield, 39weaepon.

 

[atos]

MoF2 is enough. I had low resists with lambast currently and I have 0 MoF. And MoF2 Would make polar a lvl 43 style.

Well with that spec you gain the anytimer and the other goodies. However you lose the good positionals.

 

[Gotmagi]

Also, before someone gets any stupid ideas about speccing Axe. The frontal chain is rly hard to pull off. And sword has a 75pt dd anytimer.

Was going 50 axe 50 storm on my thane, but dunno if I will be playin in new patch so...

 

[atos]

Oh? Why not? Its more than we could have hoped for in melee advancement. Perhaps too much if they think its enough not to boost stormcalling.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Was going 50 axe 50 storm on my thane, but dunno if I will be playin in new patch so...

U should...its fun...but u need to get a bb or generally go buffed

 

[ogmonda]

worked on temp

well i've been working a bit at the template and here it is:
LOKI Build Report
Class: Thane
Level: 50

Dual Wield
Item Utility: 765.9
Build Utility: 805.9
Useable Utility: 797.9
TOA Utility: 357.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 102/91
Constitution: 80/93
Dexterity: 96/95
Quickness: 56/82
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 21/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 345/356
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 11/26
Cold: 21/26
Heat: 20/26
Energy: 21/26
Matter: 9/26+5
Spirit: 16/26
Crush: 25/26
Thrust: 20/26+2
Slash: 26/26+3

Skill
Axe: 4/11
Hammer: 4/11
Parry: 7/11
Shield: 10/11
Sword: 4/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 16/26
Constitution: 18/26
Dexterity: 20/26
Quickness: 7/26
Hits: 156/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 26/50
Casting Speed: 2/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 9/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 7/10
Fatigue: 10/25

Chest (gov):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Dexterity: 25
Constitution: 25
Body: 7%
Cold: 7%
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (winged helm):
Imbue: 28.0
Hits: 40
Fatigue: 5
Armour Factor: 10
Dexterity: 15
Matter: 5%
Strength: 15
Spirit: 5%
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (lightning etched mail sleeves (thane epic)):
Imbue: 15.0
Hits (Cap Increase): 36
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 8
Constitution (Cap Increase): 8
Parry: 4
Utility: 20.0
TOA Utility: 51.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Dexterity: 25
Quickness: 25
Slash: 7%
Spirit: 7%
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Slash: 5%
Constitution: 22
Energy: 7%
Shield: 5
Utility: 63.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (malice hammer):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 15
Constitution: 15
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Fatigue: 5
Style Damage: 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Aza'r shield):
Imbue: 31.0
Piety: 21
Strength: 21
Shield: 3
Hits: 40
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Utility: 53.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (rog):
Imbue: 17.0
ALL melee weapon skills: 2
Crush: 4%
Shield: 2
Hits: 37
Utility: 37.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (shades of mist):
Imbue: 20.0
Parry: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (eerie darkness stone):
Imbue: 34.0
Slash: 4%
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Heat: 5%
Cold: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
Spirit: 4%
Utility: 78.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (hord blood stained belt):
Imbue: 40.0
Hits: 64
Cold: 9%
Heat: 9%
Energy: 9%
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Villianous Darkspire Mighty Ring ):
Imbue: 27.5
Armour Factor: 6
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits: 44
Crush: 6%
Heat: 6%
Strength: 18
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 18.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (ring of torrent):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Slash: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (ceremonial bracer con):
Imbue: 22.0
Constitution: 18
Hits: 40
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Thrust: 6%
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (ofridis bracer of ppresion):
Imbue: 19.0
Dexterity: 16
Quickness: 16
ALL melee weapon skills: 2
Quickness (Cap Increase): 7
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 7
Utility: 31.3
TOA Utility: 28.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Drop the sleeves for something crafted
Get rid of that neckie
Use another right wrist
U use Con version CB when u dont even get to cap the overcap u have given yourself even without that last +5
Dont see anything special about the shield either

 

[Illtar]

and please please dont SC spirit and Energy resist.

cap quickness for the love of god

 

[Nuxtobatns]

If not cap Qui..make it 50+ at least .. (i could only fit 66...but i am quite ok)

 

[ogmonda]

that's the best i could do i hope u guys like it

oki this is it i know i have energy,matter and spirit energy low and i am loosing 4 str and 9 dex but i think this is oki cause fortuanly enough i can afford an bb for rvr. so this is it i hope u like it .
LOKI Build Report
Name: Ogmond
Race: Troll
Class: Thane
Level: 50

Dual Wield
Item Utility: 820.7
Build Utility: 850.7
Useable Utility: 832.7
TOA Utility: 374.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 96/97
Constitution: 58/86
Dexterity: 97/91
Quickness: 66/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 71/85
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 308/312
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 26/26
Cold: 20/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 13/26
Matter: 4/26+5
Spirit: 12/26
Crush: 27/26
Thrust: 25/26+2
Slash: 32/26+3

Skill
Axe: 3/11
Hammer: 7/11
Parry: 8/11
Shield: 5/11
Stormcalling: 3/11
Sword: 3/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 22/26
Constitution: 11/26
Dexterity: 16/26
Piety: 10/26
Hits: 112/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 6/50
Power Pool: 6/25
Buff Effectiveness: 5/25
Casting Speed: 8/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 6/10
Style Damage: 9/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 7/10
Fatigue: 5/25

Chest (gov):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Quickness: 28
Piety: 25
Body: 7%
Thrust: 5%
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Hammer: 4
Parry: 4
Hits: 60
Quickness: 22
Utility: 69.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (legs of ascendant):
Imbue: 24.5
Dexterity: 19
ALL magic skills: 3
Acuity: 19
Casting Speed: 2
Acuity (Cap Increase): 10
Utility: 40.3
TOA Utility: 30.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Body: 9%
Cold: 9%
Heat: 9%
Quickness: 16
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Soot smudged boot's):
Imbue: 26.0
Strength: 21
Constitution: 21
Hits: 40
Casting Speed: 2
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Constitution (Cap Increase): 6
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 34.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (malice hammer):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 15
Constitution: 15
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Fatigue: 5
Style Damage: 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (magma infused shield):
Imbue: 38.0
Shield: 5
Heat: 6%
ALL melee weapon skills: 3
Strength: 24
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Utility: 68.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (nimbus strand):
Imbue: 27.0
Dexterity: 27
Acuity: 27
Power Pool: 6
Buff Effectiveness: 5
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 36.0
TOA Utility: 32.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (harpy feather):
Imbue: 30.0
Crush: 6%
Slash: 6%
Thrust: 6%
Parry: 4
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 56.0
TOA Utility: 25.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (eerie darkness stone):
Imbue: 34.0
Slash: 4%
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Heat: 5%
Cold: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
Spirit: 4%
Utility: 78.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (belt of zephyr):
Imbue: 34.0
Constitution: 22
Body: 6%
Energy: 8%
Spirit: 8%
Spell Damage: 2
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Villianous Darkspire Mighty Ring ):
Imbue: 27.5
Armour Factor: 6
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits: 44
Crush: 6%
Heat: 6%
Strength: 18
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 18.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (ring of torrent):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Slash: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (ceremonial bracer - dex):
Imbue: 22.0
Dexterity: 18
Hits: 40
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Slash: 6%
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (darkspire dex bracer):
Imbue: 27.5
Slash: 6%
Cold: 6%
Hits: 44
Dexterity: 18
Hits (Cap Increase): 32
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Nuxtobatns]

58/86 con ?? lol
u r a troll ? bad start imo ... good for FG tho
32/26slash ??
No WH, no SoM
Imo the leggs r not for thane