Thane spec question

Ixoth

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Any thanes there who could a bit of an advice?

Would a spec of 39 / 42 / 50 / 6 (hammer/shield/SC/parry) be good spec for new NF? I am been told that in NF's keep takes the casting skills of thane are good to be as high as possible.

Or should I take 44 / 42 / 46 / 3 (hammer/shield/SC/parry).

SC
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1) 50
Would get Thor's potence (str buff), Thor's full lightning.
2) 46
Would lack both of above skills.

Hammer skill
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1) 39
Would lack sledge hammer, and Thor's fury.
2) 44
Would lack Thor's fury.

Any advices would be greatly apriciated (Trollum etc ;) ).

P.S. Don't got much of RR yet. R2L4 atm.

P.S.2 here is a chart of Thane SC skills
 

Fafnir

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Well played my thane from release to 1 month after toa release, and my spec i ended up with after hitting lvl50 was 42 hammer, 42 shield for slamming, 48 sc for last dd, and i'm happy with that spec. I tried out 39 hammer 42 shield 48 sc rest parry didnt like it, hard enough to hit infils with 42 hammer. :) But with my capped pie and 48 sc i've successfully killed a few casters successfully with magic only.

The one on one fights i lost was due to lack of RA's.

So think 48 sc and capped pie will be enough, since i've been told any skill above 50 in sc does nothing and you only need rr2 to get that. And since most got a bb the last buff is not that important but depends on how the new buff remove spells will be used, then our self buffs will be of more use.

But most players would say dont play Thane at all :D We get the worst out of two worlds. Thane is challeging and fun to play :)

Would love to see us getting 2.2 spec points since we lack good offensive and defensive skills, that would help us alot, and would make it easy for mythic :)
 

Brunore

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Faf is right (first time ever?)

48/42/42 fortehwin!!1

50 SC is pointless as any shammie buff will be better.

*nothing* was better than 4-5 Thane spamming thier mojo :E
 

Venom

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Dont rule out the 48/42/42 spec, only thing you miss is the last self buff at 50 and with either a BB or a Stardrop you can easily reach the buff cap, 3 extra weapon may not seem like much but we need every ounce of WS we can get.
 

Sinnica

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either 50 sc 50 weaponry and 28 parry,
or 50 sc 42 shield 39 weaponry,
or 48 sc 42 shield 42 weaponry.

have in thought that buff shears does not affect self buffs (afaik)
/Tindel
 

Ixoth

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Ok, I yesterday respeced to 42,42,48 (hammer,shield,SC). Lets see how things goes :)
 

Moriaana

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I am 41hammer, 42shield, 48Stormcalling, 8parry

All +12 from items and realmrank. I think it's the best spec tbh. With a stardrop I have 309str from selfbuff, exactly the same as a fully toa'd shammy buff. Only benefit from a shammy buff is you don't have to recast every 20 mins :)
I hit...ok, but the nukes + mjollnir RAWK! Have hit ppl for over 300 with single nuke and almost killed a fg of hibs with mjollnir when they was attacking a keep and I 'sneaked' up on them :D

Oh and the reason I have 8 parry? I was aiming for another spec and changed my mind halfway there after I had already specced parry :)
 

Zebolt

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Go for 50 SC, 50 Shield and 28 weapon imo and be an uber BGer :m00:
 

atos

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Completly missed this thread. Your spec depends on your RR and race.

First of all I don't advice 42 hammer for two reasons.

1. the increase in WS isen't significant

2. IT'S FUCKING CRAP :kissit:

Below rr5 I would go 44hammer 46SC 42shield rest parry.

The lvl 50 style on hammer isen't something worth aiming for. What you do miss is the last lvl 48 DD, this should be reason enough to pick the second (my own spec).

Above RR5 well below also if you dont mind losing like 60-70ws or so.

39hammer 48SC 42shield rest parry.

As you heard Tindel saying.. get a stardrop and buff yourself. :p No need to go 50SC because of that.

And those of you who advice people to spec 42wep, even vnboards would laugh at you. :puke:

With the 39wep spec you might as well go sword too... faster wep etc missing RR tho :(. But imo a thane should wield a hammer. One more thing the ws difference between 39-50 wep is about 150-180WS (if even that much). Not worth going for with other words.

Good luck outhere.
 

Sinnica

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why the heck would you go 46 SC pre-rr5 atos oO the cast-dd IS worth it
 

svartalf

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Sinnica said:
either 50 sc 50 weaponry and 28 parry,

I saw a thane doing massive damage with a 2-handed weapon, I guess they must have had this spec. No shield though, I guess it all depends on how you want to play... oh hang on, I'm not a thane.. :worthy:
 

atos

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It the old days the higher wep spec was supposed to make up abit for not being able to use 16.5dps weps. I admit the last castable DD is worth going for.. but I think mjollnir will be a frequently used spell in NF so. :p
 

Cozak

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Sinnica said:
why the heck would you go 46 SC pre-rr5 atos oO the cast-dd IS worth it

The second last castable DD is still good enough and 44 hammer means your getting sledgehammer which is a VERY nice style, personnaly even after RR5 im going to keep my thane 46sc 44hammer 42shield as i find it a balanced spec and allows me to do well at range and in melee.
 

atos

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Well with high WP you might still do enough damage... but I wanna do maximum damage. Onigiri always runs the other dir when I nuke him, alittle more damage and I would see a dead cabby infront of me.. instead of getting a pet in mach6 on me.
 

Aeris

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42 sword, 42 shield, 48 sc, that was my spec with lukey till rr4l5...yes...i said sword :p

just recently respecced to hammer, not tried it in rvr yet but seems ok in pve :)
 

etcetra

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No need to go above 48 in SC, pre-toa 48 SC wasnt worth it. Not sure now as I havent played in rvr yet :)

But I think 42/42/48 is the optimal spec in New Frontiers.
 

d34k

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44 hammer / 42 shield / 46 storms

... is the best Thane spec.

Strongly disagree with spec'ing higher in storms -- Thanes are horribly power inefficient. If you want to nuke, roll a caster. Storms augment a Thane's melee, thus the power costs for their spells make it unrealistic to play a Thane as anything other than the hybrid class it was intended to be.
 

atos

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Haha, ok. -_- I speak the truths tho. Higher RR > lower RR therfor im right and everyone else is wrong. :clap:
 

Aeris

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yeah id agree with trollum too :p need 48 sc tbh, that last nuke is well worth it...and 44 hammer wont really and much of a difference than 48 sc will :p
 

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